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Simple Network Wizard

Posted: Sun 09 Jan 2011, 14:49
by shinobar
The Simple Network Wizard(SNS) is removed in wary-500j04.
The reason is simply it does not work for me.

SNS does not support fixed IP, it may be one of the reason it is called 'simple'.
For the reason, the SNS assumes it is used with the help of the Network Wizard.

This situation makes the things complicated.
The original wary offers SNS first. If i try it and suppose got success, then it asks to set it as the default connecting tool. Its not so bad.
If i failed with the SNS, it offers next try with other tool. I try Network Wizard and suppose got success, it asks again to set it as the default connecting tool.
Long journey!

TO DO

Posted: Sun 09 Jan 2011, 16:19
by shinobar
TO DO:
  • Slim down the applications
  • Improve the switching Xvesa to Xorg (Now requires typing as don570 reported)
  • Improve sound driver detection (Now fails sometime)

CPU

Posted: Sun 09 Jan 2011, 20:03
by yordanj94
Hi Shinobar.
Live DVD first boot .
When i choose my settings "1024-768-24" and was asked to restart,
i did it and nothing ,just blank screen asking me to type xwin or xorgwizard .
I did it and again had the same blank screen .
Xwin again restart and finally got what i wanted after two restarts.
Second i can't start "CPU Frequncy Scaling tool"

Remade ru.po files

Posted: Sun 09 Jan 2011, 21:06
by rodin.s
Changed ru.po files. Send them back in the same archive.

Deleted applications

Posted: Mon 10 Jan 2011, 04:32
by shinobar
The list of the deleted(from the menu) applications from wary-500j03 to j04:
  • Simple Network Wizard --> Network Wizard is for the replacement
  • Chooselocale-country-localisation --> Country Settings
  • DidiWiki-personal-wiki --> PPLOG
  • e3-console-editor --> 'vi' command from urxvt
  • gcolor2 : need you?
  • gFnRename --> PRename
  • ISOMaster-iso-file-editor : need you?
  • lameSMBqmount --> pnethood
  • lameSMBxplorer --> pnethood
  • MP-console-editor --> 'vi' command on urxvt
  • Pdisk-partition-manager --> 'fdisk' command on urxvt
  • peasyscan --> Xsane
  • pstopwatch --> ptimer
  • Secure-ssh-telnet --> Ssh gui, or 'ssh' command on urxvt
  • Set-hwclock-type --> Country Settings
  • Set-timezone--> Country Settings
  • snap2 --> Pbuckup
  • snap2-run --> Pbuckup
  • Superscan-network-scanner : need you?
  • WakePup2 : anyway we need to install from PPM
  • Xclipboard --> Glipper
  • you2pup : Does work?
Another candidate to be deleted:
  • Ayttm -> Pidgin
  • Pmusic --> Mplayer
Like to hear your discussion.

Posted: Mon 10 Jan 2011, 05:00
by rcrsn51
peasyscan --> Xsane
Personally, I would go

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Xsane --> peasyscan
:wink:

peasyscan

Posted: Mon 10 Jan 2011, 06:17
by shinobar
rcrsn51 wrote:
peasyscan --> Xsane
Personally, I would go

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Xsane --> peasyscan
:wink:
Thaks, rcrsn51 for joining us.
I don't think your peasyscan is easier than Xsane maybe because i am already familiar with Xsane.
But there is a big merit that your peasyscan is much smaller than Xsane.
I would like to make more discussion at the Additional Software topic:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61046

wary500j04

Posted: Mon 10 Jan 2011, 17:41
by L18L
Hi shinobar,
have startet wary500j04 with xvesa, changed only language.
loading wary_devx_500.sfs after bootup disabled X totally.
xorgwizard xorg and xvesa failed.

used Xorg -configure
tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log:

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Could not init font path element /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from list!
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/, removing from list!

Fatal server error:
could not open default font 'fixed'
(II) CHROME(0): VIALeaveVT
(II) CHROME(0): ViaCursorStore
(II) CHROME(0): VIARestore
(II) CHROME(0): ViaLCDPower: On.
(II) CHROME(0): ViaDisablePrimaryFIFO
Though having started wary500j02 there were offered only savefiles from wary500j04

posting now from wary500j02 with wary500j04/warysave-2.3fs
What is wrong with j04:shock:

Deleted applications

Posted: Mon 10 Jan 2011, 17:53
by L18L
ISOMaster-iso-file-editor : need you? Yes, but I can get it per PPM
peasyscan --> Xsane : Xsane is fully localized, most users will need it.
MP-console-editor --> 'vi' command on urxvt : mp looks really nice, but never used it
Pdisk-partition-manager --> 'fdisk' command on urxvt : or cfdisk

Delete the rest :D

pupdial

Posted: Mon 10 Jan 2011, 18:09
by L18L
Привет Сергей
Вот мой перевод на немецкий
благодарю

sfs mounting order

Posted: Mon 10 Jan 2011, 23:06
by shinobar
L18L wrote:have startet wary500j04 with xvesa, changed only language.
loading wary_devx_500.sfs after bootup disabled X totally.
xorgwizard xorg and xvesa failed.
Confirmed.
It is because the devx has some file conflicting with the main sfs.
wary500j04 mounts the main sfs at the lowest level and the devx over it. This is the important change of j03 --> j04.

One solution is that we prepare our own devx eliminating the conflict files.
But i think we may be better to revert the initrd.gz to the original.

Thanks L18L for reporting the issue.

Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 00:44
by mave
The Simple Network Wizard(SNS) is removed in wary-500j04.
The reason is simply it does not work for me.
So, the Simple Network Wizard works for me in Lupu 5.2 and in Barrys Wary 5 but not the one in Wary 5jp04. No success getting a connection. Uups.

I'm very interested in a NLS-Wary 5!!!

Thanks, shinobar,
mave

pmusic

Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 01:23
by don570
I wouldn't remove pmusic from the ISO.
It has so many features, such as burning a playlist
or converting tracks to mp3. I can leave pmusic playing
in the background all day long.

I even made a simple countdown timer out pmusic.
Available here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 456#485456

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russian langpack and pupsaveconfig.po

Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 10:35
by rodin.s
I have made russian langpack for Wary-500j. Also translated pupsaveconfig.pot.

NLS-Wary 5

Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 11:09
by L18L
mave wrote:
I'm very interested in a NLS-Wary 5
Did you install ftp://ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributio ... pq-0.2.pet ?
Not very actual, but a good start.
@mave: You are invited to help improve it.

Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 11:37
by mave
Yes...

For L18L in german:

Gewiß doch. Muss mal meine einstigen (4.x/5.1) Ansätze einzudeutschen wieder hervor holen und vielleicht schaffe ich es auch, die zur Verfügung zu stellen... :wink: Mal schauen, ob Wary 5 von shinobar nicht auch gleich in deutsch hochfahren (Desktop) kann. Der Rest dürfte sich ja ähnlich wie bei shinobars Local-Modulen verhalten.

Gruss
Markus/mave

pupsaveconfig

Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 20:03
by L18L
translating pupsaveconfig msgfmt and testing;
..
.is already used. Just click Cancel or close this window
There is no cancel button :(
above message is not in .po :(

but debug button is really nice :D

edit
translating xorgwizard msgfmt and testing;
xorgwizard: silently does not anything

Cancel button in pupsaveconfig

Posted: Tue 11 Jan 2011, 20:50
by rodin.s
'Cancel' should be replaced with 'Ok'.
above message is not in .po
Maybe that line is for English-speaking people.

wary-500j05

Posted: Wed 12 Jan 2011, 06:59
by shinobar
wary-500j05 is available. See the top post.

CHANGES (See also the j04 CHANGES)
  • The main sfs is mounted at lowest layer to keep compatibility with the original, avoiding devx issue. (Thanks to L18L)
  • Fixed cpu-freq was not run.(thanks to yordanj94)
  • Fixed firstrun, 'Personal Settings', was fallen down to the console when seitching Xvesa to Xorg.(thanks to yordanj94)
  • Fixed pnethood was failed to mount Windows 7 share, was not work 'Refresh scan' button.
  • Improved /etc/init.d/10alsa, sound card recognition at boot.
  • The 'Simple Network Setup' has come back.
  • Applications removed from the main menu is moved to the 'Extra menu' . You can find them under 'Menu'>'Desktop>'Extra Menu'.
  • Updated peasyscan-1.4 under the 'Extra menu'. nicoedit is moved to extra.
  • Some .mo files other than Japanese are now built in: countrywizard, grub4dosconfig, puppy-desktop., frugalinstaller, pupsavecofig, welcome.

Almost Russian edition?

Posted: Wed 12 Jan 2011, 08:32
by shinobar
Wary-500j05 changed the locale to ru_RU.
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