Quickset Wary-5.1.1-01q the Final Release

[L18L]

By the way, pman is called from the puppyhelp, the 'felp' icon on the desktop as for the wary-500-m07.

thanks for quoting this
I did not think to klick the help icon
I hope the menu help will result in the same action one day
In puppyhelp it was not clear for me that "Search manuals" is also an input field, maybe labeling input or select would be better.

changes in my pman (included in pet) are:

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    ;;
   man2html)
     #TMPFILE=/tmp/$(basename "$FNDMAN" .gz | tr '.' '_').html
     TMPFILE=/tmp/last_call_for_pman.html
     if echo "$FNDMAN" | grep -q '.gz$' ;then
       zcat "$FNDMAN" | man2html > $TMPFILE
     else
       man2html "$FNDMAN" > $TMPFILE
     fi
     $HTMLVIEWER $TMPFILE
     #rm -f $TMPFILE # enables switching of encoding !important
     exit
    ;;

At the moment I am running it, above code copied from running system puppy-manpages_NLS.pet loaded.
works this way from

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pman ls

>file:///tmp/last_call_for_pman.html
which will be overwritten at next pman from console
but from puppyhelp it is:
>file:///tmp/ls_1.html
which is immediately deleted

are there 2 versions of pman now?

[shinobar]

from puppyhelp it is:
>file:///tmp/ls_1.html
which is immediately deleted

are there 2 versions of pman now?

Yes, 2 versions of pman for now,
I am wondering in what case the temporal file, /tmp/ls_1.html, is deleted, and found

1. Launch the browser and seach 'ls' from puppyhelp. The /tmp/ls_1.html is deleted.
2. Close the browser, search 'ls' from puppyhelp. The /tmp/ls_1.html is still alive.

Well we are better to leave the temporary file as the pman in the pet.

[L18L]

Hi shinobar,
returning from the tests of SFS_Exec which had to be poweroff'ed by turn off the power
now there was at the boot screen a not surprising error message about a previously mounted partition.
In such cases I am used to use

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fsck /dev/XXX

But: see Subject description.
The partition now is accessable without my fsck
Any idea why fsck is missing?
Best regards

[shinobar]

Any idea why fsck is missing?

maybe Barry forgot it...
There is e2fsck for ext2/3/4 but fsck is missing.

FIXED by Barry:
Here is util-linux-2.16.1-1-w5.pet.

[mave]

Hi,

attached a german usr_sbin.po (and mo, pot).

Also modified Floppy_Formatter (little changes in layout formatting) and video_upgrade_wizard, because entry title on the top wasn't gettexted in the script (usr_sbin.pot manually modified!)

mave

[L18L]

some minor revisions inclusive don570's error messages (thanks don570 )
+ tar.mo wget.mo xsane.mo

to make it work just extract and copy to /
Thanks to mave (see post above) who had the largest part we now are almost complete.

[shinobar]

Thanks to all. For your information:
I will upload wary-500m08 in couple of days. It will be our beta stage.
See the TO DO

[mave]

Available lang-packs for cups 1.3.11, including also main-page of the cups-interface, which isn't in /usr/share/cups/templates...

mave

[shinobar]

I modified the welcome1stboot.
Sensing Puppy status and gives proper message.
See the SS.

[shinobar]

Now the beta release Wary-500m08 is available.

If you already have the previous wary-500m on your HDD, replace all the 3 system files, vmlinuz, initrd.gz and wary_500.sfs.
The lang_pack is also updated. Remove the old lang_pack and replace with the new contained in the wary-500m08.iso.

CHANGES:

• vmlinuz and wary_500.sfs has unique id to avoid taking wrong system files
• First run sequence, new welcome1stboot, index.html, home.htm.
• extralang updated to v0.3
• updated lang_pack's including cups translations, thanks to mave
• desktop icon distance same as LupQ-511
• pnethood utf8 option as the default
• sfs_load updated to v0.7
• pupsaveconfig updated to v1.9.9
• grub4dosconfig updated to v1.7
• Puppyhelp updated
• util-linux updated to 2.16.1-1-w5
• rc.update updated(lol) as the one of wary-501/3
• Puppy Package Manager bugfix and improved splash(not includes zigbert's new GUI)
• Snup2 comes back to the main menu replacing pbackup

TO DO:

• snapmergepuppy to be faster
• pdict to be updated
• pman or man2html to be supporting UTF-8 encoding and I18n correction
• Pschedule, Pupradio, You2pup to be updated
• slim down, removing some applicatons

EDIT: We keep Xvesa for now. See the followed discussion.

[yordanj94]

Hi Shinobar.
Haven't been home for a long time.
Today i tried your new "Wary-08".So far so good .No problem.
My favorite one is LUPQ-511. I use it on my laptop [ live-DVD],
but i think Wary-08 is much better to my desktop PC.
Can you tell me is there something really important to move from LUPQ-511 to Wary or you plan to update LUPQ-511 too ?
Greetings !!!

[shinobar]

Can you tell me is there something really important to move from LUPQ-511 to Wary or you plan to update LUPQ-511 too ?

Hi, yordan. Welcome back.

I will update the LupQ after the wary development settles down.
But I think wary is faster than lupQ/lupu for old PC's.
I recommend lupQ only for heavy users who want to install Ubuntu packages.

One concern with wary is Barry is introducing new kernel for the next wary-5.1.
So the kernel 2.6.31.14 of the wary-500 seems tentative.

My another interest is updating Puppy-4.x series with our new user interface and updated applications.

[yordanj94]

Great news .
Puppy 4.3.1 was my first live CD,but i had a real nightmare with a cyrillic letters,especially with saved web pages on my usb flash card so couldn't read most of them and had to gave up.
I don't need any Ubuntu packages ,but LUPQ-511 for sure works better on Dell Latitude c610 especially touchpad settings .
What surprised me was that for the same avi files mplayer in Wary uses 45% and LUPQ 85% of the processor power.
It's not so important just curious .
Thanks for your hard job.

[shinobar]

new welcome1stboot, index.html, home.htm

1. /usr/share/doc/index.html is no more updated when installing/uninstalling applications thanks to the new puppyhelp.
   You can place your translation at /usr/share/doc/help/LANGUAGE_CODE/index.html.
2. You can also place /usr/share/doc/LANGUAGE_CODE/home.html. Note that it will be copied at /usr/share/doc/hom.html, be caution of the reference link.
3. The translations of /usr/share/doc/HOWTO-*.htm shall be at /usr/share/doc/help/LANGUAGE_CODE/HOWTO-*.htm
4. Some other documentations to be translated is in the directory /usr/share/doc/help/C.

[L18L]

thanks for the new version, shinobar

You have on the TODO list "remove Xvesa" !
Xvesa has advantages, too.
In current version of Xorg there are no resolutions for widescreen monitors e.g. 1280x720x24. I think other people will need or like it, too.
Why remove? Just because of size?

Having tested video_upgrade

I have made a small quick hack (1 line) that will show manufacturers other than ati etc.

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#12feb11 display manufacturer other than intel nvidia and ati, too # quick hack by L18L
[ "$MANUFACTURER" = "" ] &&  MANUFACTURER="`echo $VIDEODETAILS | cut -d '\"' -f 4`"
HEADERMSG="<text><label>`eval_gettext \"Your computer has an '\\\${MANUFACTURER}' video chip:\"`</label></text>   <text use-markup=\"true\"><label>\"<b>${DESCRIPTION}</b>PCI chip numbers: ${MANUFID}:${DEVICEID}\"</label></text>"

that correctly displays "VIA Technologies, Inc. [1106]"

await more comments

in couple of days

[shinobar]

You have on the TODO list "remove Xvesa" !
Xvesa has advantages, too.
In current version of Xorg there are no resolutions for widescreen monitors e.g. 1280x720x24. I think other people will need or like it, too.
Why remove? Just because of size?

The size of the Xvesa is 1.1MB.
Main reason is some keyboads like Canadian French and some variants are supported only with Xorg, not with Xvasa, which may confuse users.
I thought anything Xvesa can is replaced with Xorg.
What you L18L mentioned seems not the problem of Xorg but the issue of xorgwizard.

But it is not easy to hack the xorgwizard...
Moreover, i know some hardware hungs with Xorg, exactly with the command 'Xorg -configue', which is hard to escape.
So we seem better to keep the Xvesa for now.

[shinobar]

Delete 3 font files(1.6MB in total) from Wary-500m08 to see what happens.

Under /usr/share/fonts/default/TTF:
DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf
DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf
DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf

(But leave 'DejaVuSans.ttf')
Then run 'fc-cache -f', restart X.

They can be removed because the fontconfig in Wary-500m08 makes bold and italic from the standard font.
But some applications does not support fontconfig and it may be a problem.
I am not sure what application does not...

[L18L]

monospace is not working but there is Nimbus Mono L
the other fonts are ok in abiword
edited 2011-02-14
There should be a fonts.alias pointing the missing monospace to Nimbus Mono L

[L18L]

slim down
let us rethink about which scripts have to be builtin for all (will grow up) languages:
countrysetup
extralang
pupsaveconfig
and nothing else, would it be sufficent?
Changing language as soon as possible, maybe moving the X server stuff to after language changing?

removing some applicatons
my 236k: sqlitemanager though newest version 0.6.8-all.xpi is localized in 6 languages, who needs it can download it herself, size 236kB from http://code.google.com/p/sqlite-manager/
edit 2011-02-15
another 60kB: gmeasures delivers wrong results in wary (1 Cubic Meter is not 1 Cubic Yard)

[L18L]

(now long ago) rodin.s wrote:

Can you post a screenshot.

Here is a variant of welcome1stboot
-try in which WINHEIGHT and WINWIDTH your translation is looking nicer.
do it connected to the internet. A fix amount for WINHEIGHT is added because of longer text of message if not yet connected
- Note, last line of script is changed (geometry). Don't ask why it works this way. I don't know.
- changed window decorated=true just for testing
- gettext can be (miss?)used for language dependent geometry, this will keep the script shorter and maintainable.
Have fun playing with it