Wary Puppy 5.0-final feedback

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gerry · #46 Post by **gerry** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 16:54

@James C- no I'm running live cd. But I am ignoring it anyway, 'cos it hasn't caused a problem yet.

gerry

Frank Cox · #47 Post by **Frank Cox** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 18:36

Installed Wary,frugal, on my M275 Gateway TabletPC and the first problem was the brightness control was inoperable. It is stuck on low.

The other is the wireless card, an Intel 2200BG that uses the ipw2200 driver is not working. I had the identical problem with a Fujitsu T4010 TabletPc with 431 and the fix was to use one of the special puppies with an older kernel.

Any ideas how to work around this one?

amc · #48 Post by **amc** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 18:39

(Sorry about the dual posting, I meant to add to this thread, which I think is more appropriate)

Hi all:

I discovered Puppy Linux this month and have been having a great time installing and using it on a variety of old laptops that I have. However, I think that I have run into a problem with Wary 5.0 wifi networking, that does not exist in Lucid Puppy 5.11 or 5.15.

Basically what is happening is that during wifi setup the computer cannot complete the "associating" step and times out. I've tried this on two different computers, using both pcmia card and a usb dongle. All these machines as well as the wifi cards connect with my wifi router and work fine with Lucid Puppy.

The reason that I am trying Wary 5.0 is to find out if it runs better on an old Sony Vaio laptop that I have. Lucid Puppy works, but is slow, especially when installing packages. My wifi network uses both a hidden ESSID and WPA-TKIP encryption, both/either of which may be contributing to the problem.

For completeness, here's the equipment specs:
Sony Vaio PCG-Z505RX 192 MB RAM 8 Gig ATA Drive
Belkin F5D8011 Wireless Notebook Card
running ath9k driver which identifies the card as "Atheros Comminucations AR5008 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)".

Note that I have also tried Wary 5.0 on a newer laptop with built-in wifi, and this also has the same trouble associating with my network. This is a completely different computer and network card, which also works fine with Lucid Puppy, so I think that it is a Wary problem, not a hardware/driver problem.

Any ideas on how to solve this?
Thanks,
Aaron

rjbrewer · #49 Post by **rjbrewer** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 18:52

Frank Cox wrote:Installed Wary,frugal, on my M275 Gateway TabletPC and the first problem was the brightness control was inoperable. It is stuck on low.

The other is the wireless card, an Intel 2200BG that uses the ipw2200 driver is not working. I had the identical problem with a Fujitsu T4010 TabletPc with 431 and the fix was to use one of the special puppies with an older kernel.

Any ideas how to work around this one?

Strange;

My 700m Dell has almost identical specs, including ipw2200bg; and
I haven't had any problems making wpa connection with any Wary
versions.

#50 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 19:07

Frank Cox wrote:The other is the wireless card, an Intel 2200BG that uses the ipw2200 driver is not working.

This isn't a very helpful description to go on for advising.
Please give more detail.

norsiwel · #51 Post by **norsiwel** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 19:13

I just did a frugal install to my gecko surfboard and everything works, sound, good video with dri support, I don't have the built in wireless but tethering to my gprs phone works well. This is great for surfboard owners.

Frank Cox · #52 Post by **Frank Cox** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 19:25

Béèm wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:The other is the wireless card, an Intel 2200BG that uses the ipw2200 driver is not working.
This isn't a very helpful description to go on for advising.
Please give more detail.

I am not very experienced with wireless so I am not sure what exactly you need to know.

I went into the router and disabled the security and it connected. The password I was using was correct as I checked it in Lubuntu to be sure so i

Now I will try resting the security and see what happens.

Any ideas on how to get the back light to work?

DaveS · #53 Post by **DaveS** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 19:28

Béèm wrote:
DaveS wrote:LOL.. skiboardsonline.com still scrolls awful.
Everything else looks great so far.
Still not convinced that FireFox is bad and that SeaMonkey is ok?

To the Dark Side I have gone.... Opera! Closed source... Heretic...
Beware the Inquisition

#54 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 20:13

DaveS wrote:
Béèm wrote:
DaveS wrote:LOL.. skiboardsonline.com still scrolls awful.
Everything else looks great so far.
Still not convinced that FireFox is bad and that SeaMonkey is ok?
To the Dark Side I have gone.... Opera! Closed source... Heretic...
Beware the Inquisition

You know how people end up being caught by the inquisition.

rjbrewer · #55 Post by **rjbrewer** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 20:20

Frank Cox wrote:
Béèm wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:The other is the wireless card, an Intel 2200BG that uses the ipw2200 driver is not working.
This isn't a very helpful description to go on for advising.
Please give more detail.
I am not very experienced with wireless so I am not sure what exactly you need to know.

I went into the router and disabled the security and it connected. The password I was using was correct as I checked it in Lubuntu to be sure so i

Now I will try resting the security and see what happens.

Any ideas on how to get the back light to work?

Back light to work?
Your screen is black?

With the 855gme processor I choose the i810 option during
xorg setup.

Frank Cox · #56 Post by **Frank Cox** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 20:29

Anyway I reset the router and set the security to WEP and re- created
the pass-phrase. No luck.

Reset the router again to disabled-no security and it connected fine. Cab the driver have anything to do with this problem? Is there something I could be doing? i doubled checked the paraphrase in Lubuntu again just to be sure and it worked fine.

Any ideas where to go for a manual to help me fix the back light problem?

Appreciate your help.

rcrsn51 · #57 Post by **rcrsn51** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 20:34

If you are using WEP and a pass-phrase instead of digits, you have to enter it as s:pass-phrase.

Billtoo · #58 Post by **Billtoo** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 21:12

I did a frugal install to a newer Gateway desktop pc with an onboard
ati hd3200 graphics chip.
I installed the devx,kernel source sfs,and ati driver.
Wary 5.0 is working well on this pc.

rjbrewer · #59 Post by **rjbrewer** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 21:30

Frank Cox wrote:Anyway I reset the router and set the security to WEP and re- created
the pass-phrase. No luck.

Reset the router again to disabled-no security and it connected fine. Cab the driver have anything to do with this problem? Is there something I could be doing? i doubled checked the paraphrase in Lubuntu again just to be sure and it worked fine.

Any ideas where to go for a manual to help me fix the back light problem?

Appreciate your help.

M275 users manual;

http://support.gateway.com/s/Manuals/Mobile/8510817.pdf

pskin · #60 Post by **pskin** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 21:49

Wary 5.0 is basically working 99% on edubook.

Some issues are:
1) There is no rt3070sta wireless driver for edubooks that came with
adapters that need that. Instead the rtx2800 module (which does not seem to work) is loaded. If this is blacklisted, then a version of rt2870 is loaded on next boot, which also seemed not to work. However, one can blacklist both modules and compile the rt3070sta module from the source downloaded from ralink. Then wireless works.

2)The flash plugin crashes SeaMonkey (e.g. youtube.) This was noted of
wary 093 on Barry's blog. I tried simply to
install a different version of the plugin (I tried version 10.1r102,
the latest available from the Adobe site) and it has not crashed so far.

On Barry's blog, he also mentioned that some things such as ffmpeg
and libvpx may need to be recompiled. Certainly, ffmpeg
gives an Illegal Instruction error at the moment.

-pskin

Frank Cox · #61 Post by **Frank Cox** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 21:53

Back light to work?
Your screen is black?

With the 855gme processor I choose the i810 option during
xorg setup.

let me rephrase, the adjustment for the back light fails to function. It is set on low and does not respond to the adjustment button.

X seems to be working okay, it is just I cannot turn the brightness up.

Thanks

#62 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sat 01 Jan 2011, 23:04

Frank Cox, mostly the back-light function is controlled by buttons as you say, or in the BIOS.
I don't think Wary 5.0 has code to do this.

Frank Cox · #63 Post by **Frank Cox** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 00:44

Béèm wrote:Frank Cox, mostly the back-light function is controlled by buttons as you say, or in the BIOS.
I don't think Wary 5.0 has code to do this.

My tablet has a button I always use for the brightness on the LCD frame. It works in every distro I have ever tried , windows, numerous Ubuntu derivatives, lucid , 4.2 . 431 and others I have forgotten but not in Wary so I doubt it has anything to do with the bios, that would affect the others as well. There is certainly the possibility I am wrong but it seems it has to be a bug in Wary, fortunately it is not a big problem .

Fortunately there is a second method of adjusting the brightness, FN F8 and when I remembered that and tried it it worked .

Thanks anyway

Any ideas on the wireless?

BarryK · #64 Post by **BarryK** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 01:06

pskin wrote:Wary 5.0 is basically working 99% on edubook.

Some issues are:
1) There is no rt3070sta wireless driver for edubooks that came with
adapters that need that. Instead the rtx2800 module (which does not seem to work) is loaded. If this is blacklisted, then a version of rt2870 is loaded on next boot, which also seemed not to work. However, one can blacklist both modules and compile the rt3070sta module from the source downloaded from ralink. Then wireless works.

2)The flash plugin crashes SeaMonkey (e.g. youtube.) This was noted of
wary 093 on Barry's blog. I tried simply to
install a different version of the plugin (I tried version 10.1r102,
the latest available from the Adobe site) and it has not crashed so far.

On Barry's blog, he also mentioned that some things such as ffmpeg
and libvpx may need to be recompiled. Certainly, ffmpeg
gives an Illegal Instruction error at the moment.

-pskin

Yes, it would be good if someone took on a remaster of Wary that works 100% with the Gecko Edubook and variants.

As far as I can recall, the only pkgs not compiled for a 486 CPU are ffmpeg and libvpx ...but I am not sure about mplayer. These were configured for a 686 CPU as otherwise the 'configure' script wouldn't use the MMX instructions -- even though MMX was introduced with the 486. Which was annoying, maybe I could have hacked the 'configure' script.

I think that I posted some notes on how to compile ffmpeg, it can be configured for a 486 CPU and recompiled.

Adobe Flash -- perhaps the older version 9 player would work?

pskin · #65 Post by **pskin** » Sun 02 Jan 2011, 01:44

BK wrote:

As far as I can recall, the only pkgs not compiled for a 486 CPU are ffmpeg and libvpx ...but I am not sure about mplayer. These were configured for a 686 CPU as otherwise the 'configure' script wouldn't use the MMX instructions -- even though MMX was introduced with the 486. Which was annoying, maybe I could have hacked the 'configure' script.
I think that I posted some notes on how to compile ffmpeg, it can be configured for a 486 CPU and recompiled.

Barry, Thanks, I found your blog entry about configuring ffmpeg.
Am I right in thinking that I should configure it for 486 and that
I do not want to use MMX since the Vortex86MX does not support it?
Or am I mistaken and MMX is supported?

I'll have a go at remastering wary for edubook if I can get these few things compiled.

-pskin

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