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nooby

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jan 2011, 15:47    Post subject:  

Upgrading to Fluppy kernel would be best because that one boot Acer Aspire One small Netbooks while Wary and Quirky and Puppy boots now and then and some never.

Snowy Puppy by pemasu he made use of Fluppy and maybe iguleder on his Inpu also did.

Snowy also always boot so that is a good thing.

Oooooops very naive question.

On other puppies not your puplite yet but on others I have made use of a Firefox .mozilla directory placed on mnt/home and that way It keeps the bookmarks and set up and so on from puppy to puppy. One only have to make a symlink back to the root from mnt/home and

Could I not do something similar for the way one get access to the Ethernet card. or are these things buried too many layers deep and not reachable from outside?

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jan 2011, 18:12    Post subject: screensaver  

Great job!

I noticed that the screen saver is not on - is this intentional, or perhaps is it because my Intel (Atom combo board) graphics is not supported in Xorg?

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nancy reagan

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Jan 2011, 18:53    Post subject: Nice pup
Subject description: questions
 

Hi Sc0ttman and all other Puppians first of: Happy and Healthy New Year

Like your new Puppy, kinda Lucid.

Some questions and remarks though.

R Miss the icon with the desklight-ico with which you can go straight to desktop. from within an app..

R Miss the numbers of the drive icons on desktop

R Edit: Disks are not shown as mounted or not with me.

Besides I miss the nice menu you had in your 1st Firedog.

R No boot options are shown on bootup.

(Full install on usb -on hub- starting from cd.)

R Miss menu entry for SFS converter.

(Just "came across it" by browsing for something else).


Q When booting on my very old Toshiba Tecra, which I use most of the time, after hitting the OK button for the mouse, it reports something like "starting X with video mode o xo 114 and mouse tty s0", Similar when I tried to launch Teenpup.

This book only runs xorg. Anyway to avoid this ?

(Tried to make a personal save file on other book on usb and thus, but prefer to go straight. This Tosh only does xorg.)

Q1 Is there a way to go straight to xorgwizard ? - with no boot options ?


Tried sfs converter.

Dragged and dropped the sfs on the icon. Then tick the sfs convert icon. Then msg pops up where I tick the X (in a box), Then the msg screen turns blank and "mksquashfs" black screen turns up, but nothing happens, no messages whatsoever.

Q2 What do I do wrong ?
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PostPosted: Sun 02 Jan 2011, 17:21    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
On other puppies not your puplite yet but on others I have made use of a Firefox .mozilla directory placed on mnt/home and that way It keeps the bookmarks and set up and so on from puppy to puppy. One only have to make a symlink back to the root from mnt/home and

Could I not do something similar for the way one get access to the Ethernet card. or are these things buried too many layers deep and not reachable from outside?

That would mean mixing kernel drivers from different kernels (potentially), so would not work.

What would be lovely (but surely impossible) is having 1 kernel (of your choice) which boots any puppy you tell it to...
Not gonna happen anytime soon I think, but we dream, right? Smile

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Jan 2011, 17:24    Post subject: Re: screensaver  

raffy wrote:
Great job!

I noticed that the screen saver is not on - is this intentional, or perhaps is it because my Intel (Atom combo board) graphics is not supported in Xorg?

I think the screensaver was disabled by synth way back when this was TurboPup...
(The first ever Puppy I used was 4.2.1, but I didn't like the bling, so quickly turned to TurboPup, and have built stuff using TurboPup as my base ever since..

So actually, I have never seen the screensaver - I always turn my monitor off, as soon as I stop using it... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 02 Jan 2011, 17:51    Post subject: Re: Nice pup
Subject description: questions
 

Firstly nancy, thanks for checking it out, and giving feedback, much appreciated...

nancy reagan wrote:
I miss the icon with the desklight-ico with which you can go straight to desktop. from within an app..

You mean a button in the tray which minimizes all windows and shows the desktop? I would also like to have this, but the 'showdesktop' command which jwm uses in other Puppies, doesn't seem to work in 4.2/TurboPup... Can't be too hard to get it working though...
(Added to my to do list!) Very Happy

nancy reagan wrote:
I miss the numbers of the drive icons on desktop

Not sure what you mean...
Puplite shows drive labels and mount points for each drive listed, when you hover the cursor over a drive - other Puppies only started doing this recently.. This should be enough to identify your drives... I also want to show different icons for USB drives on the desktop, will do it soon... I hope.

nancy reagan wrote:
Disks are not shown as mounted or not with me.

Pmount will show which drives are mounted, but the drive icons on the desktop will not (yet)

nancy reagan wrote:
Besides I miss the nice menu you had in your 1st Firedog.

then install the new Firedog, using the 'browser installer' app (Menu->internet) Very Happy
( or the old one from http://ppm.scottjarvis.com/internet/browsers/firedog/firedog1.2.pet)

nancy reagan wrote:
No boot options are shown on bootup.

The live CD uses grub4dos, press the 'e' key to edit any menu entries exactly how you like..
..or edit menu.lst once booted to make the changes permanent (in a frugal install)...
Grub4dos has many settings and features.

Which boot options did you want that were missing?

nancy reagan wrote:
Miss menu entry for SFS converter.

Puplite is still Puppy 4.2 - Trios SFS convertor has not yet been made to work with 4.2 so it is not installed... but I will get on it. Smile
(Also, ttuuxxxs sfs convertor works weird - using drag n drop - not suitable for menu entry unless I, or someone else, want to code a file browser for the menu entry...)

nancy reagan wrote:
Q When booting on my very old Toshiba Tecra, which I use most of the time, after hitting the OK button for the mouse, it reports something like "starting X with video mode o xo 114 and mouse tty s0", Similar when I tried to launch Teenpup.

This book only runs xorg. Anyway to avoid this?... Is there a way to go straight to xorgwizard ? - with no boot options ?

Not really - to edit the boot sequence/settings (example, delete /etc/videomode), you first need to boot it up! (or remaster it from a different puppy, using woofy or edit-sfs-1.2)

...but presumably Xvesa fails for you on your Toshiba, and you must then use Xorgwizard, right?
Well.. This would be the default behaviour if booting to Xvesa was disabled, so disabling this feature won't change or improve anything for you... (much)

nancy reagan wrote:
Tried sfs converter.

Dragged and dropped the sfs on the icon. Then tick the sfs convert icon. Then msg pops up where I tick the X (in a box), Then the msg screen turns blank and "mksquashfs" black screen turns up, but nothing happens, no messages whatsoever.

What do I do wrong ?

Not sure, maybe you dragged the sfs to the wrong icon, or maybe the tool isn't working as expected...
(But it should be fine..)

So.. Just to make sure::

You drag the sfs file to the icon which matches the version of puppy it already works on! (A bit odd, I know... That's why I want Trios converter working in Puplite..)

Example:
If you have a sfs from lupu, drag it into the 'series 5' icon, then run the convert tool...

Hope that helps..

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shinobar


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PostPosted: Sun 02 Jan 2011, 21:20    Post subject: Congrats Puplite-1.0  

Congrats, sc0ttman!
sc0ttman wrote:
- smaller, faster, more "up-to-date" Puppy 4

Its almost what i dream Very Happy
Sfs on-the-fly is fascinate!

But i wonder why you take the Puppy-4.2 as the base.
Hope to update some applications and scripts from 4.3.1 or 4.3.2 of ttuuxx.

I am busy on the Wary-500 Japanese edition for now, but i will back here to see what is the most cutting-edge Puppy 4 series.
Keep your great work!

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JIGNESH_MODI

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Jan 2011, 03:15    Post subject:    

is it support bsnl 3G usb datacard modem? If yes than it will rock..........every 6 outof 10 indians use bsnl 3G datacard .. Mostly of teracom company.. & u know india is big county so better provide solution for it...
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PostPosted: Mon 03 Jan 2011, 09:45    Post subject: Re: Congrats Puplite-1.0  

shinobar wrote:
Congrats, sc0ttman!
Its almost what i dream Very Happy
Sfs on-the-fly is fascinate!

haha thanks, sfs-on-the-fly is from goingnuts - I just stole it from the PupnGo thread (thanks goingnuts Very Happy )
goingnuts said its still at draft level, and he is still improving it, but its already great!

shinobar wrote:
But i wonder why you take the Puppy-4.2 as the base.

Simple - I wanted something light and fast, I am lazy and I am not an expert; with 4.2 I had lots of work already done for me - in TurboPup, then Puppy Arcade, plus stuff from PupnGo...

I could have used 4.3, but then I would have lost many great changes from TurboPup/PA10, and I am more familiar with 4.2 than any other version.
(But still no expert!!)

Also, I wanted something for myself that was totally functional and minimal - something that was very efficient.. With Puplite I can know and control exactly what is running and what is not. I can load/unload additional apps very quickly.. With Puplite I save lots of RAM and CPU usage - I like efficiency..

In Puplite, there are no icons, deamons, scripts or tools running that I don't use.

I plan to upgrade the kernel, if possible, to the Fluppy kernel..
(or other kernels with good wifi, smp, rfkill, realtime?)

shinobar wrote:
Hope to update some applications and scripts from 4.3.1 or 4.3.2 of ttuuxx

When you have time, I would really like to hear which scripts can be updated - and most important - which features you would like to see put into Puplite (from 4.3, etc)..
(You know more about it than me..)

( I cant find your new puppy desktop improvement thing on this forum... But I want to try it.)

shinobar wrote:
I am busy on the Wary-500 Japanese edition for now, but i will back here to see what is the most cutting-edge Puppy 4 series.
Keep your great work!

Please do, any feedback will be greatly appreciated..

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PostPosted: Mon 03 Jan 2011, 09:59    Post subject:  

JIGNESH_MODI wrote:
is it support bsnl 3G usb datacard modem? If yes than it will rock..........every 6 outof 10 indians use bsnl 3G datacard .. Mostly of teracom company.. & u know india is big county so better provide solution for it...

I have no idea... But I doubt it... Try it though, I may be wrong...

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 03:24    Post subject:  

sc0ttman wrote:
JIGNESH_MODI wrote:
is it support bsnl 3G usb datacard modem? If yes than it will rock..........every 6 outof 10 indians use bsnl 3G datacard .. Mostly of teracom company.. & u know india is big county so better provide solution for it...

I have no idea... But I doubt it... Try it though, I may be wrong...

not worked it can't detect modem to,fails
so now we have to solve this big problem
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 18:10    Post subject: 3g setup  

You can find discussions about 3G setup here and in Barry's blog. Hope these can help.

You may want to open another topic for bsnl 3G datacard setup.

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 15:16    Post subject: Puplite-2.0  

Puplite 2.0 is out, see main thread.

- *NEW for 2.0*
- easy sfs version detect and convert, with Trios "SFS-Convertor"
- switch between jwm only, or full rox desktop (Menu->Desktop->Toggle ROX Desktop)
- updated all of zigberts apps to latest
- better locale support, with 'puppy-desktop' locale thing + NLS (from shinobar)
- better 3G modem support and updated zdrv (from rerwin)
- better control of startup/shutdown - moved more stuff to /etc/init.d
- removed addon sfs files from live cd

puplite 2.0 changes:
x update: open jwm apps menu by clicking *middle* button on desktop (not left-click) - better when using ROX desktop
x remove: goffice and printing sfs files from live cd
x update: use Patriots jwm to fix pmconky, if I make it work nicer with fullscreen flash
x update: make pmconky loader in init.d
x update: pmconky - add cpu temperatures, locale, current user
x update: add loader for automount in init.d, remove it from xwin
x update: add loader for create_jwm_drives.sh in init.d, removed from xwin
x update: create_jwm_drives.sh with the 9menu thing from goingnuts (allows mount/unmount and view)
x update: startups with descriptions for automount, pmconky, jwmdrives, nls stuff
x update: fix Trios sfs-convertor for Puplite and add it
x update: filemnt to ask to unsquash (or convert) sfs4 files, when not mounted
x re-enable pup_event_frontend using loader in init.d, (not .xinitrc)
x fix: add "apply gtk theme to jwm" button back to jwmconfig, fix wallpaper button (make it use 'sws')
x add: mpd (music play daemon) - cos why not? its tiny..
x add: pCD 1.5 , pmusic 1.5.2, pburn 1.3.1(+NLS) all updated
x add: puppy-desktop and puppy-desktop-NLS
x add: prozilla, cli downloader
x add: closedvd+rwtools
x add: rerwins 3G_pupdial-wireless-13 (and updated zdrv), also fixes some module loading tools
x add: firstrun 1.6, improved 1st bootup options
x add: ghunter_white-0.0.5, nice image viewer
x add: mime editor from bigbass, edits rox mime types, added to menu
x add: updated remasterpup2 from shinobar
x add: /usr/sbin/toggle-rox-desktop to enable/disable Rox Pinboard (PuppyPin icons)
x add: symlink of /etc/init.d/rc.pmconky to /root/Startup - so pmconky loaded by default
x add: menu entry for toggle-rox-desktop in 'Menu->Desktop->Desktop Settings'
x update: updated ROX icon and desktop settings - new wallpaper, fixed icons
x update: woofy 0.6: better sfs unsquashing, now uses mktmp, better sfs version choice (fixed my/iguleders code bit with mksfs)
x update jwmrefresh (check "~/.toggle-rox-desktop" for settings before load ROX pinboard)
x update _jwmrc_ with jwmrestart command for refresh menus
x update startup descriptions with all scripts used
x fix: rollback to prevous pupremaster2, so it works again Smile
x fix: jwm_drives to check for empty MNTPATH var, and if so, use normal mount point
x fix: update woofy to use "rxvt -e" to build main sfs, so user always sees its progress
x fix: rename mksquashfs to mksquashfs3, then symlink to mksquashfs.. same with unsquashfs3..

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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 15:16    Post subject: Puplite-2.0  

puplite 2.0 desktop, with pmconky
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PostPosted: Thu 06 Jan 2011, 15:17    Post subject:  

switch between 'jwm-only' or 'rox' desktop..

Go to 'Menu->Desktop->Desktop Settings->Toggle ROX Desktop'
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