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nancy reagan

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PostPosted: Sun 06 Mar 2011, 17:02    Post subject:  

Well atm the moment in your puplite 5, but cannot judge right now for Firedog sfs (wary thing) seems very heavy on my 128mb Toshiba. (Read at Woofy)

Besides did not yet use your zdrive cutter something.

Like all the little utilities, though most of them I don't understand being a low profile user.

Dunno how to handle adblocker etc.

Dunno what the little (tv ?) screen and or the (left right click pointer) on the bottom means ?

Anyway your topic is moved upward again for a sec or so.
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PostPosted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 07:04    Post subject:  

nancy reagan wrote:
Well atm the moment in your puplite 5, but cannot judge right now for Firedog sfs (wary thing) seems very heavy on my 128mb Toshiba.

Go to Menu->Internet->Browser Installer.

You can choose another browser there, if you like. Opera 11 is available, and very fast once it loads up.

For beginners using very slow systems, I recommend FirePup.
If you want to experiment, also try Dillo or lynx, or elinks.

nancy reagan wrote:
Besides did not yet use your zdrive cutter something.

It may help performance, but may not be suitable for beginners.
( the main problem is remembering to plug in and enable all your USB devices, etc, before running zdrvcutr)

nancy reagan wrote:
Like all the little utilities, though most of them I don't understand being a low profile user.

Dunno how to handle adblocker etc.

Ad Blocker is easy, I will explain, as blocking ads makes your browsing even faster, as you said it's a bit slow.

So, go to Menu->Internet->Pup-Advert-Blocker. Then tick all 4 of the checkboxes and click 'Start'.
Then wait until a message pops up that says "finished" or "success" or something.

Done.

nancy reagan wrote:
Dunno what the little (tv ?) screen and or the (left right click pointer) on the bottom means ?

Not sure what you are talking about here.... Sorry Embarassed

If you mean the two screens shown to the right of the "Apps" button, then these are your desktops.
You have 2 desktops by default.
It is just a simple way of giving you more screen space - letting you use 2 separate desktops...

nancy reagan wrote:
Anyway your topic is moved upward again for a sec or so.

Yep, good Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 19:28    Post subject:  

If you plug in different joypads or drawing tablets, etc, then you will want a script that checks for them and loads their drivers when X starts. I didn't include one by default. So, in case anyone wants it, below is the script to place in /root/Startup.
Code:
#!/bin/sh

# load modules
insmod joydev

# load wacom tablets
depmod
modprobe wacom

# find joypads
modprobe joydev
modprobe analog

# force feedback
modprobe usbhid
modprobe evdev

#gameport joypads
modprobe ns558

# serial joysticks
modprobe serport
inputattach -xxx /dev/tts/X &


[ -e /dev/js0  ] && echo "Joypad 1 found"
[ -e /dev/js1  ] && echo "Joypad 2 found"

#quit
exit

Just save the code above into a file called 'joystick-daemon' and make it executable.
You can make it executable by right clicking on it in ROX and choosing 'Properties', or by using
Code:
chmod +x /root/Startup/joystick-daemon
in the terminal

Also, if you know of any other commands which should go in this file, please let me know.

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technosaurus


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PostPosted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 22:01    Post subject:  

arch has a pretty good list of small/light apps here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lightweight_Applications

does X need to be restarted/reconfigured after those kernel modules are loaded? I don't have any to test, just seems likely.[/url]

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 04:42    Post subject:  

technosaurus wrote:
arch has a pretty good list of small/light apps here:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lightweight_Applications

does X need to be restarted/reconfigured after those kernel modules are loaded? I don't have any to test, just seems likely.[/url]

Thanks technosaurus... I'll have a good look at that..

About the joypad-daemon, usually it's enough to plug in the device before X starts, then the device will work once X loads... If you plug in AFTER X loads up, then yes, you need to restart X.

For example, I often plug in a gamepad before Puppy boots, and it works fine once the desktop loads up.. Then if I switch to a drawing tablet once booted, I restart X and am good to go.

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 06:16    Post subject:  

I had a look at the Arch links listed above...
Hmm, I tried to compile: sylpheed (2.6.0 and 3.10), pidgin light 2.5.4, cmus 2.3.4, deadbeef 0.4.4, potamus 0.12...
..all failed...

I need to upgrade (at least) cairo, and thus pixman, gtk, ffmpeg, python...
I was also told by potamus I need gtk+ renamed to gtk2..
I think ffmpeg-2008 and gtk+ 2.12 are definitely showing their age...

But cmus compiled and installed, but doesn't run correctly - no dirs or files are listed when it loads.
I might try going over a few older versions of potamus and pidgin..
But I am no expert at compiling, so it's probably a waste of time!!

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Mar 2011, 12:07    Post subject:  

If anyone is using this, or Puppy 4, I have compiled and updated a few games, which work really well in Puplite...

Just download the SFS and libs (see below), and install as usual.
(In Puplite you can right click on an SFS file to install it)

Seven Kingdoms: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66102

FreeCiv 2.2.5: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66100

Eternal Lands 1.9.1: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56810

AssaultCube 1.1.0.4: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=56551

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar 2011, 17:53    Post subject: zero ballistics tank shooter game  

Here's a great online deathmatch tank shooter game thing, that works in Puplite...

It's called Zero Ballistics: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=66387

It needs a good graphics card, so it;s not really for older PCs, but it was just about playable on my 1ghz sempron, nvidia fx5200 agp, with lowered graphics settings.

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PostPosted: Wed 30 Mar 2011, 17:58    Post subject:  

Also, while I have it in front of me, here is a new Pidgin (Instant Messenger) package, which works in Puplite :

Pidgin 2.7.2: http://puppy.b0x.me/software/packages/internet/pidgin-2.7.2-i486-410.pet
( get it while you can.. I'll mirror later)

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Apr 2011, 15:12    Post subject:  

A GREAT fighting game, works well in Puplite: Cartoon Fighter.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Apr 2011, 07:52    Post subject:  

as a note, if you have to re-run 'xorgwizard' each time you boot, even when you are using a save file, then rename /usr/sbin/xorgwizard-old to /usr/sbin/xorgwizard (remove or rename the original first, obviously)...
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PostPosted: Sat 14 May 2011, 07:21    Post subject: puplite 6.0 alpha
Subject description: a big upgrade! plans in foot...
 

In case anyone cares (unlikely, I know), I plan to go for a rather ambitious update of Puplite, to make it fully up to date with Wary 511, Lupu, etc. I also plan to include some unique features and make it as light as ever in terms of RAM and CPU resources used - the ISO will grow, but that's OK, I think.

Some plans:

- easier to use, faster and simpler to setup
- boot STRAIGHT to X desktop, no action required at all (a first)
- updated toolchain (glibc, gcc, etc)
- more flexible save file settings, using new, unique pfix options
- more flexible desktop - disable what you don't want, at 1st boot
- kernel switching at boot (have to keep an eye on pUpnGo for that one)
- new ff4, midori, ffmpeg and vlc
- a quickpet with on the fly SFS loading
- full desktop uses less than 25mb RAM (on my PC.. it varies PC to PC)
(note Puplite 5.0 uses 22mb on my PC at the moment)


Here is the full list (it's big):

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=522415

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PostPosted: Sat 14 May 2011, 07:42    Post subject:  

I noticed that I did not remember your puplite and I gave same name to Lupu525 Lite so maybe it is named Lucid Puppy Lite 2.0 ? I don't remember. I had an iso with similar name

I did test yours again using the 2.6.32 version? I get internet on this one so could be something changed from Jan 2011 when I failed to get LAN activated. Maybe I used the other kernel version

So that is cool. As I remember now TXZ pup failed to get internet. Pups based on Puppy 412 will fail so maybe them based on 420 will work then.

LHP works.

Now you plan to use Lupu511 so that will work on my computer.

Is it true that it use this much memory. The widget? shows that I have 1000MB and that some 780 is free. That is 220 used? Is that not much for being lite? No criticism at all.

Turbopup claimed him only using some 10 mb but I have not tested it.

One thing that fails are that the drives has no names. on the pin board.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 May 2011, 08:23    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:
I go test yours again using the 2.6.32 version? I get internet on this one so could be something changed from Jan 2011 when I failed to get LAN activated.... As I remember now TXZ pup failed to get internet. Pups based on Puppy 412 will fail so maybe them based on 420 will work then.

Now you plan to use Lupu511 so that will work on my computer.

Is it true that it use this much memory. The widget? shows that I have 1000MB and that some 780 is free. That is 220 used? Is that not much for being lite? No criticism at all.

Turbopup claimed him only using some 10 mb but I have not tested it.

Sorry nooby, but we all know your hardware does not work well with puppy 4 and its derivatives, you have posted about it already... the drivers required to get hardware working depend on the kernel - your hardware needs a newer kernel. Simple.

Try the Wary511 kernel version of Puplite 5.0, it might work.. I hope so! Embarassed

...and i dont plan to use lucid for anything, only comparison and inspiration... please read more carefully!

.. and just so you know, turbopup uses 19mb to 22mb of RAM on my system, Lupu uses 100mb+, which, yes, is still very little on new systems (over 512mb RAM).

Puplite has a nicer, easier to use desktop than TurboPup, but it still uses no more RAM than TurbPup... BTW, when I say it is "light", I mean the CPU and RAM usage and requirements, not only the ISO or SFS size.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 May 2011, 08:56    Post subject:  

Yes my Acer D250 using a N270 and Intel 945 chips most likely are unusual. Atheros are famous for having problem getting internet like now when I tested Turbopup again then it fails to get internet.

But your puplite 5.0 did get internet but failed at shut down. it just hanged while creating a pupsave. Did create the save file but did never after that was finished.

Thanks

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