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#106 Post by starhawk »

Great, thanks!

One more JWM problem -- I edit /root/.jwmrc-drives to get rid of the floppy drive icon (there's no floppy drive in this system) but it won't go away.

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#107 Post by sc0ttman »

starhawk wrote:Great, thanks!

One more JWM problem -- I edit /root/.jwmrc-drives to get rid of the floppy drive icon (there's no floppy drive in this system) but it won't go away.
1. Remove line 43, in /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh

2. Then double click on /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh to run it.

3. Then restart JWM - Menu->Shutdown->Restart JWM
...or in the terminal

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#108 Post by starhawk »

Here's what worked for me... it's a little more involved.

(1) Remove the relevant entry in /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh
(2) Remove same entry in /root/.jwmrc-drives
(3) Open rxvt and type "fixmenus" [Enter] at the # prompt.
(4) Restart JWM.

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#109 Post by sc0ttman »

starhawk wrote:Here's what worked for me... it's a little more involved.

(1) Remove the relevant entry in /usr/sbin/create_jwmrc_drives.sh
(2) Remove same entry in /root/.jwmrc-drives
(3) Open rxvt and type "fixmenus" [Enter] at the # prompt.
(4) Restart JWM.
Glad you got it working.
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#110 Post by nooby »

Puplite boots but fail to get internet.
Now I have several puppies that do get internet. They have maybe newer kernels.

Can I borrow a driver from them Atheros driver and place it in luplite and get internet that way?
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

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#111 Post by starhawk »

@sc0ttman: got my top tray to work -- I'd left out some very important quotation marks in some very important places. Derp.

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#112 Post by sc0ttman »

nooby wrote:Puplite boots but fail to get internet.
Now I have several puppies that do get internet. They have maybe newer kernels.

Can I borrow a driver from them Atheros driver and place it in Puplite and get internet that way?
You cannot steal modules from other kernels, no :(

If you have windows installed, you can try adding the PERL and ndiswrapper pets listed previously in this thread, and try using your Windows drivers.

I am hoping that Puplite 5.0 will be a final version, based on the Snow Puppy kernel.

I've been saying it for a while...
But I've yet to hammer out all the issues with switching kernels, but when I do it will be lovely :)
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#113 Post by nooby »

Thanks! Yes I am way too naive it seems. :)

Snow puppy works good on my computers.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

jplt

#114 Post by jplt »

Hello,

puplite don't recognize my ext4 partitons
even in gparted (that included in) ?

Thanks.

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#115 Post by sc0ttman »

jplt wrote:Hello,

puplite don't recognize my ext4 partitons
even in gparted (that included in) ?

Thanks.
I think ext 4 is not supported in any Puppy 4 by default.

But you can try installing this pet I have attached, it may help you open it, or so something with it...

Also, this GParted supports ext4:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41656

Probably no need to install it though, ext4 just isnt supported by the current Puplite kernel - there is only so much you can do.
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#116 Post by sc0ttman »

Just a note, in case anyone waiting for this cares, for Puplite 5.0 I plan on using the new 2.6.32.28 kernel from Wary 504 (or later, we'll see...)

Upgrading to this kernel should mean much better hardware support, faster, sfs4 based...

That will also mean ditching the otf-sfs-loader from goingnuts.. :(
But we can replace it with shinobars new one.

Current plans for Puplite 5.0:

- upgrade to latest wary kernel (with smp, rfkill, etc)
- choose appropriate otf sfs tool and make it work
- fix: add ndiswrapper 1.55, add all required PERL-tiny deps, plus addons (adds ~700kb)
- fix rox toggle - make it stick after reboot (updated xinitrc)
- fix: PupApps and PupControl, so they work with the wallpaper-setter. (edit /usr/local/PupControl/defaultapps/wallpaper)
- fix: add check save file space for otf-sfs-loader - confirm load if not enough space
- add: antiword_epdf - easy convert and view MS word files as PDF (adds ~ 200kb)
- add: ex, the tiny vi editor (to replace tiny-elvis, adds ~110kb)
- add: java interpreter (jamvm ~ 400kb)
- add: javascript interpreter (tiny-js ~ 14kb)
- add: tiny c compiler (tinycc ~200kb)
- add: python interpreter (tinypy, adds ~57kb)
- add: tiny tcl/tk interpreter (jimtcl and tclsh symlink)
- add: sql engine - sqlite-3.4.3 (adds ~ 200kb)
- add simple, tiny ftp server - pure-ftpd and its gui
- add: wput, and GUI for to uploading to servers (adds ~90kb)
- add: gtkam 0.1.16-1-pup4 (adds 87kb)
- add: mcedit to defaults-chooser (its better than mp)
- add: technosaurus' isomaster (its a fixed version)
- add: screen brightness gui for xbacklight, plus a menu entry
- add "nrg2iso" cli tool, plus nrg mime type and 'update-mime-database' and a default action
- add "make iso script" that supports grub and isolinux (steal code from Woofy)
- add gtklp 1.2.7 to printing sfs,
- add: mmv - mass renamer/mover cli tool (~35kb)
- add: glurp (or other mpd client) plus libmpdclient (adds 30kb)
- add: rox_docx (manually add it!)
- update: pmusic to 1.6.*, update pTiming, pSchedule
- update: defaults-chooser: support siag office, frisbee, others???
- update: remove static mksquashfs files, replace with 'pup4' versions (saves ~600kb)
- update: rpm handling - auto convert to pet and ask to install... ala txz packages
- update: default mp3 action - add a wrapper/gui - if mocp is running (ask to) add song to playlist, if not, play, update mocp to use mocha_theme
- update: puppy event manager to run create_jwm_drives (if exec in init.d) and restart jwm after hot-plugging a device (help!!)
- update: transmission_cli to 1.75 (adds 100kb)
- update: add fixedwidth="175" to <TaskList /> in /root/.jwmrc-tray
- update: browser-installer to use new opera 11 pet file
- update: snapmergepuppy from shinobar/jemimah/jrb
- update: add entry in "Startups" for ShareInternet
- update: nicer jwm taskbar theme; updated in jwm-personal, _root_jwm-tray and _root_jwmrc
- update: pmount with proper alignment
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Minimum specks

#117 Post by Frank Cox »

I am trying to find an os for a Thinkpad 701c with 75 mhz cpu and 40 megs ram

Hi Scotman!

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Re: Minimum specks

#118 Post by sc0ttman »

Frank Cox wrote:I am trying to find an os for a Thinkpad 701c with 75 mhz cpu and 40 megs ram

Hi Scotman!
Try PupnGo, in the Puppy Projects section.

PupnGo is VERY bare bones, but JWM can be added.
As can Dillo, Ted, siag office, vlc_nogui, and a few other things.

goingnuts will soon, I think, release a version with lots of drivers.
After you boot it, you can run 'zdrv_cutter' which removes all drivers you don't use (make sure to have all your extra pci,usb,etc devices plugged in when you do it though!)

If that is no good for you, maybe "214X", or "TurboPup". Though they may be too heavy for your 75mhz CPU
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#119 Post by goingnuts »

sc0ttman: thanks for recommending pUPnGO - but I do not think it will go: Although small the kernel might be too new for that hardware. Have a couple of pentium desktops here - they will boot P412 retro but not pUPnGO. Other distros might also be considered: dsl, bl3 and mulinux are all "small" and seems to work on the old hardware. Another question is how to install them...
Wish there were a way to boot via a flashcard in pcmcia slot. :)

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Re: Minimum specks

#120 Post by Puppyt »

Frank Cox wrote:I am trying to find an os for a Thinkpad 701c with 75 mhz cpu and 40 megs ram
... or perhaps, Frank, you might like to check out zenfunk's "Pulp" over here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=120. Sullysat has Pulp 0.03 working on a machine with similar specs as yours (middle of page 9), and contributors 'f00 and sindi have made some fascinating progress with zenfunk's original puplet, very recently, covering pages 9-11. Perhaps there'll be a new Pulp-based puplet for machines such as yours very shortly - Lets hope. :)

(Alternatively, there's always FreeDOS http://www.freedos.org/. I have the latest version - with latest memory managers - running on a Toshiba 430CDS on 120 MHz and 32 MB RAM more sweetly than the day it was originally loaded with Win95. For Dos games and WordPerfect 5.1 only, though - though I could load Arachne for the web.)

Back on topic - looking forward to Puplite 5.0, sc0ttman!
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Re: Minimum specks

#121 Post by Frank Cox »

Thanks
The only way to load this one would be with the external floppy drive,
pcmia {if that can be done ta all and I bought a card}, or perhaps the serial port. I am going to try and hook up a serial to usb adapter and if that does not work I will take it to the house and try serial to serial.
If that won't work the Ethernet card is only 12.00 delivered and if I get it running I need one anyway. Anyone got a small pcmia card they would trade for a newer one? Actually it is brand new! I bought it several years ago to use in an old compaq and I had a really good week and bought a Gateway Tablet so it has gathered dust ever since.

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#122 Post by Puppyt »

Frank I thought I'd outlined how I got around the (current) inability of Puppy to load properly from a pcmcia cd-rom drive in this thread ("Install basic Puppy on a computer with 16 Mb RAM"http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48214) - but I see that it isn't really highlighted well there. It is do-able with the grub floppy that rcrsn51 put together, but a drive transplant is probably your better option for that IBM of yours. Good Luck!
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#123 Post by Frank Cox »

Puppyt wrote:Frank I thought I'd outlined how I got around the (current) inability of Puppy to load properly from a pcmcia cd-rom drive in this thread ("Install basic Puppy on a computer with 16 Mb RAM"http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48214) - but I see that it isn't really highlighted well there. It is do-able with the grub floppy that rcrsn51 put together, but a drive transplant is probably your better option for that IBM of yours. Good Luck!
Thanks

It was my fault I did not see it. After spending half a day trying to figure this out I was a bit frustrated.
I am going to try the transplant but considering I cannot even access the bios I may be wasting my time.

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puplte 5.0

#124 Post by sc0ttman »

Puplite updated to 5.0, this is a big update, with 2 kernel versions.
(the default puppy 4 kernel, and the wary 5.1 kernel)

Many changes and improvements have been made.

See the first post for a summary, plus the full changelog of changes.
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Latest Version Puplite 5.0

#125 Post by tengzelius »

Please post download links.

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