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James C


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PostPosted: Sat 12 Feb 2011, 02:40    Post subject:  

For as long as I've been running Puppy I've never tried a multisession dvd...until now. Been running Fatdog 511 on multisession dvd for a couple of days now and no real difficulties to speak of. So far, everything just works. Great job on this. Smile
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 01:27    Post subject: Fatdog64-511
Subject description: Fotowall application
 

I made a Fotowall-0.9-x86_64.pet which you can use to load several
photos on a page and arrange them.You can create backgrounds to use as
wallpaper or print them out ( I don't know if this works because I
don't have a printer installed).

Fotowall-0.9-x86_64.pet needs qt4-4.6.1.pet installed from the puppy package
manager in fatdog or it won't work.

Edit: this application can do other things like cd or dvd covers etc, here is a wallpaper done with it.

edit: I resized a wallpaper that I found on the internet and gave it a title, Fatdog64 is working nice on this pc.
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anAF

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 15:20    Post subject:  

Ok, I'll try to compile and make a .pet of svgalib first;
the latest development version is 1.9.25 and is from 2006; it should support more graphic cards.
Then, if I start with pfix=nox it should work, right?
Then I can try to compile also Arachne, I guess.

jamesbond wrote:
anAF, Arachne requires svgalib. Svgalib requires exclusive screen access, it is not compatible with X. Svgalib hasn't been updated for a very long time (wikipedia says since 2001) - so good luck trying systems that can actually run it.

If you need a CLI browser, I'd recommend elinks, available in the repository, with thanks to Billtoo for compiling it.

Fatdog CLI is always available - just choose Quit X Server from menu , or use pfix=nox in the boot line.

cheers!
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oui

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 18:02    Post subject:  

Hi Kirk

Thank you very much for this help:

kirk wrote:
If you want to run Firefox as root (Seamonkey would be similar) from the Fatdog home screen, click on "FAQs" and then on "Firefox won't save to xxxx."

As far as removing Firefox, deleting /usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.12 will do it, but keep in mind it's in the read only SFS file, so deleting it really just hides it. To really remove it you could do this:

1) Copy the the contents of the main sfs to your hard drive.

# mkdir /mnt/home/SFS
# cp -a /initrd/pup_ro2 /mnt/home/SFS

2) Delete Firefox (you could add stuff too if you like)

# rm -r /mnt/home/SFS/usr/lib64/firefox-3.6.12
# rm /mnt/home/SFS/usr/share/applications/Firefox.desktop

3) Make a new SFS file.

# cd /mnt/home
# mksquashfs sfs fd64-511.sfs


Also I uploaded a new pet package for Geany-0.20 including all pluggins (spell check).


I did adapt it as following.

After the first start (there is yet no /mnt/home and no save file but the maximal memory of my laptop):

a. I did install what I need (Seamonkey, Skype and EasyTag)
b. I did erase Firefox directly in my /usr/lib64
c. and change in /usr/local the default browser and default mail client

d. use your proposal after light modification: I use my /usr area as it is as a lot of details did be changed by the installation's procedures! all that enters directly into the new.sfs without effort!

Code:
# cp -a /initrd/pup_ro2 /mnt/sda1/
# mv /mnt/sda1/pup_ro2 /mnt/sda1/sfs

# rm -r /mnt/sda1/sfs/usr

# cp -a /usr /mnt/sda1/sfs/usr

# cd /mnt/sda1
# mksquashfs sfs fd64-511.sfs


What I did not find:

the old directory /root/Desktop of the very old puppys
to enter the changes from Desktop into /mnt/sda1/sfs

and the way to desinstall properly the actual Geany to remplace it by the new Geany 2. that you did propose to us in the same answer, so I did renounce at this time.

next detail:

what is the goal of fd64-32bit-libs-3.sfs ?

probably this sfs makes 32 bit applications possibly usable in the 64 bit environment? if yes, it would be important to include it in the new fd64-511.sfs or not? only copy the content into /mnt/sda1/sfs ?

what is with wine if fd64-32bit-libs-3.sfs is available?

kind regards

PS do I observe somewhat important to rebuild a complete iso with that new fd64-511.sfs and perhaps change the name before that to mark that it is not the original version?
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 19:30    Post subject: Re: Fatdog64-511
Subject description: Fotowall application
 

Billtoo wrote:
I made a Fotowall-0.9-x86_64.pet which you can use to load several
photos on a page and arrange them.You can create backgrounds to use as
wallpaper or print them out ( I don't know if this works because I
don't have a printer installed).
Thanks Billtoo. I'll try it - looks interesting and perhaps easier to use the using imagemagick from command line Smile
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 19:34    Post subject:  

oui wrote:
next detail:

what is the goal of fd64-32bit-libs-3.sfs ?

probably this sfs makes 32 bit applications possibly usable in the 64 bit environment?
Yes, this is what it is for.
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if yes, it would be important to include it in the new fd64-511.sfs or not? only copy the content into /mnt/sda1/sfs ?
It's up to you, if you plan to run a lot of 32-bit apps then you may need this included. Note - not all 32-bit apps are supported, you need to do trial-and-error to see which one works. Some apps require "start32" prefixed for them to run properly (ie if you usually start with app the "myapp" command, you need to do it "start32 myapp" instead.

Quote:
what is with wine if fd64-32bit-libs-3.sfs is available?
Wine is 32-bit application and it requires the 32-bit lib. It won't work otherwise.
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oui

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Feb 2011, 19:42    Post subject:  

Hi Kirk

oui wrote:
what is with wine if fd64-32bit-libs-3.sfs is available?


Different from http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64, I did try a wine.sfs 1.3.8 beeing on my hard disk (but I can't remember the provenience, and the name, wine-1.3.8-i486.sfs, don't refers to fatdog or amd64) and it seems to work but 'flashes' on the screen.

Kind regards

PS: Thank you jamesbond. Please have a look on the wiki page of the wine guy's!
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Feb 2011, 06:22    Post subject:  

oui, I presume you get the wine-1.3.8-i486.sfs that is available from Fatdog repo. If that's the case, as explained in the in readme file (http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/sfs/500/readme-sfs.html) - that wine package is 32-bit (it's actually a re-package of what green_dome compiled on the other thread on this forum - thanks green_dome). That's why it has -i486 appended to it's name - because it's a 32-bit software.

And that version of wine definitely doesn't support Win64 or WoW64 you refer in your link. As far as I'm concerned Win64 is a dead product.

cheers!

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Feb 2011, 19:01    Post subject: Request for information  

Request: Has anyone SSH into a FATDOG and gotten a X session (FATDOG desktop) running over the SSH session on your local LAN?

Thanks in advance for any information/directives one can offer.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 05:16    Post subject: Re: Fatdog64-511
Subject description: Fotowall application
 

jamesbond wrote:
Billtoo wrote:
I made a Fotowall-0.9-x86_64.pet which you can use to load several
photos on a page and arrange them.You can create backgrounds to use as
wallpaper or print them out ( I don't know if this works because I
don't have a printer installed).
Thanks Billtoo. I'll try it - looks interesting and perhaps easier to use the using imagemagick from command line Smile
Fotowall only supports bmp and png, but not jpeg? All my photos are in jpeg format Confused
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 06:27    Post subject: Re: Fatdog64-511
Subject description: Fotowall application
 

jamesbond wrote:
Fotowall only supports bmp and png, but not jpeg? All my photos are in jpeg format Confused[/quote]

I just made a picture with 3 of the photos off my camera and they are in jpg format. I saved it as test.jpeg and it is working.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 08:08    Post subject: Re: Request for information  

gcmartin wrote:
Request: Has anyone SSH into a FATDOG and gotten a X session (FATDOG desktop) running over the SSH session on your local LAN?

Thanks in advance for any information/directives one can offer.
Hi, if all you want is Fatdog desktop over LAN, there is x11vnc (menu: Network - VNC server). Any reason why this isn't sufficient?
cheers!

Billtoo - sent you a pm regarding Fotowall. Thanks.

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Roy

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 15:44    Post subject:  

Ummm, guys.... is libgmp.so.3 located in the devx? Does anybody have that library in /usr/lib64/ ? Xcas complains that library is missing and refuses to start for me.

If ANYBODY has that library available, I would appreciate it if you would post it for me.

Thanks!

-Roy
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 17:51    Post subject: gexec  

gexec

Hi

I would like to know if some one knows a program starter like gexec with the option ’start32’ and, as it already is, the actual option ’run in terminal emulator’ for programs or frontends like 'gtklp’ or ‘zim ’ etc.

see also

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=492743#492743

and

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=63553

bye

PS: gexec and mTpaint snapshot icons would be very interessant and important left in the bottom tool bar ot the screen window !
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Feb 2011, 18:59    Post subject:  

Roy wrote:
Ummm, guys.... is libgmp.so.3 located in the devx? Does anybody have that library in /usr/lib64/ ? Xcas complains that library is missing and refuses to start for me.

If ANYBODY has that library available, I would appreciate it if you would post it for me.

Thanks!

-Roy
Yes, apparently libgmp is located in devx ... (it's part of gcc). I wasn't aware that xcas needs this because I always run with devx installed. Here is the libgmp and his friends.
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