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Fatdog64-511

#226 Post by l2ulinux »

I found a program that took care of the screensaver. Fatdog works great to watch internet TV now and does not have the sound problem that other PUPPY releases have after about five hours.

The program is called NO Blank Screen 1.0 at:

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No Blank Screen 1.0

It works.
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Re: "fd64-511.sfs not found " ....

#227 Post by Rickkk »

Cheers again ... Success ! Have finally got frugal install of Fatdog working. Tazoc's suggestions of "pdev1=" instead of "root=" and removing the leading "/" in paths did the trick. Hoping this will work with USB boot as well. More on that later ....

NOW, however, two more pressing issues:

1) My HP TouchSmart TM2-1070ca has an onboard Broadcom wireless card, the 4322, I believe (will double-check this). Fatdog sees the device ("unknown Broadcom device") but loads the "wl" module, which doesn't work. Have tried the other Broadcom modules, with no success. Any ideas ?

2) The laptop's Synaptics touchpad is painfully slow and unresponsive under Puppy/Fatdog unless configured properly. In Lucid Puppy 525, there is a Synaptics configuration applet that helps iron out the worst problems, but I haven't found it in Fatdog. Is it there somewhere, and if not, is there some other way to manuall configure the touchpad ? It is virtually unusable as is.

So once again .... Help please !

Thanks so much in advance - great support community for this ...

Cheers,

Rick

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FAtDog on HP TouchSmart TM2

#228 Post by Rickkk »

Hi again all,

A bit more news ....

1) Wireless networking is functional after all. For some reason, my first attempt at using FatDog's suggested "wl" module for the Broadcom card didn't work - it saw networks but wouldn't connect to my WPA2 router. Well, not sure what made me try it again, but I did, and it worked perfectly ... :shock: ... Must have screwed up something the 1st time around. So - no longer an issue.

2) Synaptics touch pad config is still an issue. I really need to know how to properly configure this. The pointer response is so minimal that to move it across the screen takes a good 10 swipes of the pad ... I will keep looking on my own, but any community assistance would be, again, greatly appreciated.

By the way, the GRUB issue I originally had that was preventing FatDog from booting a frugal hard-disk install, was specifically caused by my putting a leading "/" in the "psubdir" parameter (i.e.: psubdir=/fatdog64_511 ... has to be psubdir=fatdog64_511). This is not an issue for other Puppy frugal installs (e.g. Lucid), but is indeed important for Fatdog (thanks again to Tazoc).

Thanks again - please chime in with any suggestions re: touchpad ....

Cheers,

Rick

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#229 Post by Aitch »

Rick, try reading here....see if it helps

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60547

I use Lupu 525 and there's a wizard....I thought there was one in wizard wizard in other pups?

else try Jemimah's .pet

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48011


Aitxh :)

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#230 Post by kirk »

Been out a bit lately, I've started work on Fatdog64-520, Just built the latest Xorg.

Rickkk,

Your slow touch pad problem is probably due to Fatdog64 thinking it's a older Synaptics pad instead of a Alps. To fix edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the AccelFactor from 0.0030 to 0.030

This and other solutions (frugal install) can be found under the FAQs link on the home page :)

gcmartin

Thanks again - please chime in with any suggestions re: touc

#231 Post by gcmartin »

Rickkk wrote: ... please chime in with any suggestions ...
Here a idea that you may find useful.

There is a feature which was originally bult and tested on FD, here. It will allow you to setup a PUP to "serve" any PUP ISO you designate to any machine that has a wired LAN connection to your network. This allows any other PC to powerup, find that server, and boot whatever that server has for it.

So, for example, I could use a running Puppy to make a 64bit FD available. Then, have a 64bit laptop boot without ANY local peripheral being used. Simple.

And, if I decided, in addition, I could have the feature on the running Puppy make many different Puppy distros available. This would allow the person booting the laptop to select which distro he wants to have the laptop boot. Again, nothing on the laptop is used to allow it to do this.

And, finally, once its booted, I could disconnect that ethernet wire and my laptop would run wirelessly until I shut it down (if ever).

If you haven't looked at this, take 7 minutes to do, both, server setup and to boot your first PC from that server. There's an enclosed document to show you how to setup any PUP PC you choose to set this up on; and its easy to follow.

Hope this helps

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Rick's continuing adventures with Fatdog ...

#232 Post by Rickkk »

Kirk / Aitch / gcmartin:

Thanks so much for your input. Have now got touchpad working nicely with Fatdog - did it by duplicating output of "synclient -l" under Lucid in Fatdog's xorg.conf. Lots of manual editing - but it worked.

Here's my latest issue: need to configure my printer whose driver is not in the supplied list (HP OfficeJet Pro K5400DN). In other Puppies, I have had to install HPIJS (version depends on version of CUPS - probably 3.10.6 with this one), and, depending on the Puppy version, sometimes libnetsnmp15 and / or foomatic filters. How may I get this done with Fatdog, since the available 32-bit pets are incompatible ?

Thanks again in advance for all your help - much appreciated !

Rick

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Re: Rick's continuing adventures with Fatdog ...

#233 Post by gcmartin »

Rickkk wrote: ... Here's my latest issue: need to configure my printer whose driver is not in the supplied list (HP OfficeJet Pro K5400DN). ... Rick
i looked over this

It may not be optimal, but, looks like you can try one of these: the
  1. HP LaserJet 5 may work for black-white,
  2. Business Inkjet 2250TN may work for color.
Hope this helps

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#234 Post by Rickkk »

Thanks gcmartin. Never thought of trying one of the other drivers - will test and let you know.

In the meantime - yes ... aNOTHer question ... :oops:

In other linux distros on this laptop, I have to use the "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=xx" command to change screen brightness, due to the unique hardware in the machine. The command ("setpci") does not seem to be present in Fatdog (or perhaps in any Puppy, for that matter ... I hadn't noticed its absence until trying it in Fatdog just recently ...). Can this be added to Puppies ? I have read somewhere that it could be part of a package called PCI tools or something similar. Any help (again ...) would be appreciated !

Rick

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#235 Post by Rickkk »

... Update ... Found a workaround to the setpci thing .... I have Ubuntu 11.04 installed on the same partition as FatDog, and simply running the command from its Ubuntu directory works fine.

Still no printer joy, I'm afraid. I even tried the 64-bit PPD file from my Ubuntu install, but I believe FatDog's version of CUPS wants an older version of the driver (3.10.6, perhaps ...).

More later ...

Cheers !

Rick

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Re: Rick's continuing adventures with Fatdog ...

#236 Post by gcmartin »

Rickkk wrote:... Still no printer joy, ...
In the past, I have had success with contacting HP directly for support/guidance in addressing HP printer drivers in Linux. You can call them or try chat online. You'll need your serial number on your printer.

Your other question is about laptop screen brightness controls. Yeah, I had similar problems where the laptops goes to screen savier then dulls over time. maybe others can help by suggesting how to get the running system to restore brightness back to original boot as well.

Hope this helps

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Re: Rick's continuing adventures with Fatdog ...

#237 Post by rcrsn51 »

Rickkk wrote:Here's my latest issue: need to configure my printer whose driver is not in the supplied list (HP OfficeJet Pro K5400DN). In other Puppies, I have had to install HPIJS (version depends on version of CUPS - probably 3.10.6 with this one), and, depending on the Puppy version, sometimes libnetsnmp15 and / or foomatic filters. How may I get this done with Fatdog, since the available 32-bit pets are incompatible
Have you tried the hpijs_print_fd64-3.11.1.pet from here?

Also, see Page 14 for info about using 32-bit printer drivers in Fatdog.

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#238 Post by Rickkk »

Hello again all,

I must say, the community support for FatDog / Puppy certainly is amazing. Been using various Puppies since 2009 and have never failed to obtain timely, well-informed assistance. Once again, my sincerest appreciation.

Printing
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1) gcmartin's earlier suggestion of using a different printer driver seems to work (thx gcmartin). Configured with the Business InkJet 2250 driver supplied with FatDog, I can print. There is an issue with the duplexing option that I am still testing, but it appears that a slight modification in the PPD file might do the trick. More later.

2) rcrsn51's info concerning a 64 bit HPIJS 3.11.1 .pet for Fatdog is promising. I thought I had searched thoroughly, but I guess not :oops: .... Thx rcrsn51 - will give it a try and see if it is a better solution than the previously mentioned one. Thx also for the link concerning 32-bit support in Fatdog - I will read this with interest.

Thx again folks, more later ....

Rick

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#239 Post by Rickkk »

Hi again everyone,

Things are going well with FD. The 64-bit pet for HPIJS printing works perfectly so far - thx ! So GRUB / frugal install, networking, screen brightness commands, Synaptics control, and printing issues have all been addressed thanks to your support.

Much appreciation - Puppy has been one of my favourite distros, if not my favourite hands-down, for a couple of years now, even on a powerhouse of a laptop like the one I'm using at this moment with FatDog. The frugal install feature and the snappiness of the performance, coupled with the very useful and well thought-out packaging of applications, make it a winner IMHO.

Thanks again all for your prompt and very useful assistance.

Cheers from (very rainy) Montreal ....

Rick

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#240 Post by Ray MK »

Hi all,

Rickkk said:

Much appreciation - Puppy has been one of my favourite distros, if not my favourite hands-down, for a couple of years now, even on a powerhouse of a laptop like the one I'm using at this moment with FatDog. The frugal install feature and the snappiness of the performance, coupled with the very useful and well thought-out packaging of applications, make it a winner IMHO.

Would like to second that and add my own sincere thanks and appreciation.

Just burnt my 1st iso for a long time, created a 512mb save_file and then installed to a 4Gb SDcard(fat16)no swap).

Fantastic - read the full 16 pages to get a feel of what’s what, still finding my way around, applied the touchpad fix and running from SDcard now.

Running on an E-machines E732 laptop,
can’t believe how fast FD64 is.

Again - many, many thanks and very best regards - Ray.

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#241 Post by rcrsn51 »

jamesbond wrote:Interesting. Epson tools from cups doesn't work without usblp - and yet the same cups won't work with usblp (I'm talking about default cups in FD64).
Were you talking about escputil? It is actually part of the Gutenprint package, not CUPS.

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Fatdog64

#242 Post by l2ulinux »

It is working very well and THANKS for the chance to get to use it.

Operating System
Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.35.7 (x86_64)
Compiled #1 SMP Tue Nov 9 00:23:48 GMT+5 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.50
Current Session
Computer Name fatdog64
User Name root (root)
Home Directory /root
Desktop Environment Unknown (Window Manager: Openbox)
Misc
Uptime 3 hours, 57 minutes
Load Average 0.05, 0.05, 0.06

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Useful Configuration

#243 Post by gcmartin »

@Ray MK and @Rickkk, welcome to 64bit world of Puppyland; nmely FATDOG.

I am not the official greeter, but I have been using FATDOG on an 8GB and a 4GB system without incidents. The help I have received and the understanding that these Puppy owners provided me is extremely good, clear, and consistent.

I run a LiveDVD environment, as such, I have NEVER installed anything on a HDD/USB ever in running FATDOG! My HDD/USB are ONLY used as storage devices; never for running the OS (This is a personal preference for I have outstanding performance running as I do from the LiveCDs/LiveDVDs/PXE.)

Most everything I need is in FATDOG so I may NOT be a good example, but let me share what I have in my 8GB PC. It has 2 services added via PPM and 1 service that Kirk has made available, almost exclusively, to me for Sharing files from FATDOG with all of my LAN PCs (including all windows and all Linux distros) Those services are the latest nVidia PET, the SAMBA PET (that I referenced) and 2 PETs which allow FATDOG to be a boot server to various other machines I test with on the LAN (this was provided, Thanks to JamesBond). That's it. (I think I may have flash installed, but its been so long ago, I can't remember if I did or not.)

That PC is a main system that is used everyday for internet, multimedia playback, NAS storage, adjustments of test cases used on other PCs. The PC has only been down 3 times in the year I have run V5 FATDOGs:
1. changed to new 5.10 ISO
2. change to new 5.11 ISO
3. Test a feature for comparison
Thus, the system is stable, Stable, STABLE!

The 2 systems have DVD writers, so, I write my ISOs to DVD in "multi-session mode" so that FATDOG can save all of my work whenever I need to reboot the system. This has worked flawlessly over time.

One thing that you MAY want to do is to setup a SWAP partition that is the size of your RAM. As, I have found that from time to time the system has used it, although those have been rare occasions. (Right now for example, my browser has 5 windows open with about 5-6 tabs open within each window.

Should you want to use the services I mentioned for your FATDOGI am expecting that the SAMBA PET will be made available via PPM in the upcoming June upgrade to FATDOG.

Hope this helps

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#244 Post by HiDeHo »

I am having trouble connecting to my wireless. i manage to get it to connect. until i remove my dsl cable then it disconnects.

gcmartin

Problem with LAN

#245 Post by gcmartin »

HiDeHo wrote:I am having trouble connecting to my wireless. i manage to get it to connect. until i remove my dsl cable then it disconnects.
Can you run this command in a terminal

Code: Select all

ip address show
and post, back here, 2 things:
  1. results before you disconnect the cable
  2. results after you remove the cble to your PC's ethernet card
please.

Looking forward

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