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HiDeHo

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PostPosted: Sat 14 May 2011, 07:52    Post subject:  

Hi if i load and use the 32bit sfs for fatdog. will i be able to install other pets or 32 bit apps.
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jfh

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PostPosted: Sun 15 May 2011, 16:38    Post subject: Full HD install
Subject description: r8168 r8169
 

hmm post keeps disappearing.
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jfh

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PostPosted: Sun 15 May 2011, 16:40    Post subject: One more time
Subject description: r8168 r8169
 

Fatdog64 511 full hd install. MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) motherboard, Nvidia GTX 460 8 gig ram

Really liking fd so far. A puppy that sees all of my ram!! Snappy, speedy..

The next part of the post is for google and people beating their head against the wall.

The only install problem was the Ethernet driver. This not a puppy specific problem it's in all distros I have used with this chip the rlt8168. Linux only includes the r8169 driver and it causes intermittent connection or in the case of Fatdog no connection at all.

The fix is to downland the r8168 specific driver, not found in the Realtek site search so here it is.

(Well maybe not, I can't post with the url here so look at the bottom if you need it. would not work in FF or chrome. Formatting weirdness.)

You have to blacklist r8169 in modprobe.d blacklist.conf

In Puppies ./autorun.sh is the only way it would work. Error messages and all, devx.xxx required

Other distrs would only work with make clean, make, make install.

Every distro required different things to get it to work. Puppy was the easiest, reboot and or network wizard.

http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=5&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false#RTL8111B/RTL8168B/RTL8111/RTL8168%3Cbr%3ERTL8111C/RTL8111CP/RTL8111D%28L%29%3Cbr%3ERTL8168C/RTL8111DP/RTL8111E%3Cbr%3ERTL8168E
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DC


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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 06:16    Post subject:  

Hi to all,

Could somebody please point me to the Kernel headers/source sfs as I can't seem find it

thanks

DC
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jfh

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PostPosted: Tue 17 May 2011, 23:38    Post subject: kernel headers  

If I remember correctly the devx file has the headers included.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/sfs/500/
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l2ulinux


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Location: Blountstown, Fl.

PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2011, 13:22    Post subject: Fatdog64-511
Subject description: New
 

Can anyone help tell me were to find more programs that will work?
I need more plugins that will work in FireFox. How can I upgrade FireFox are install a new one that will work?

All help needed
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DC


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PostPosted: Wed 18 May 2011, 14:37    Post subject:  

Hi all,

@jfh
correct I had a look in the devx file and the headers are there thanks

Next problem
I tried installing fd64-devx_511.sfs into a full install of Fatdog 511
using the command (from the mounted devx)
Code:
cp -a * /

Which I have always used and used with the LibreOfc-3.3.1_en-US_64bit_sfs4.sfs no problem.

But with the devx it crashes resulting in a black screen which only a hard reboot will fix
I've re downloaded the devx but same problem persists
there is 2.5gig of space in this partion

Anybody got any clues please

thanks

DC
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l2ulinux


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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 02:46    Post subject: Fatdog64-511
Subject description: It gets better.
 

When I first tried Fatdog64-500 I was very disappointed with it. I had not used a 64 bit OS at the time, I was lost. I have come to love it more and more. I have tried Ubuntu, LinuxMint, and Debian programs all 64 and have very little luck with them working. But this has about everything I need.

Can someone tell me how to use the sfs packages?
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DC


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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 10:02    Post subject:  

Hi l2ulinux,

sfs install
This is the way I do it for a full install.
Libreoffice as a example
mount the sfs ( just left click on it )
in the rox window right click and select "Window" then select "Terminal Here" from the context menu
or if you use the back tic key ( top left of my keyboard) it pops one open with the path inherited from the window
( try the command ls and you should see all the files same as the mounted window )

type cp -a * /
(cp SPACE -a SPACE * SPACE / )
this copys all the files in the sfs to the / directory with all the paths and files in the right place.
then you have to find the start script or bin file in this case its
/opt/libreoffice/program/soffice or scalc or switer etc
I drag this to my desktop and it should work Shocked
I don't bother putting things in the puppy menus as the desk top is good enough for me as I usually only have scalc and swriter from a sfs

below are some of my old notes regarding devx.sfs install

DC

*************************************************************************

updated 12/4/09

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=286701

copy the devx_412.sfs file to /
click on the devx_412.sfs file (in ROX)
once the file mounts a ROX window will open to display contents
right click and select "Window" then select "Terminal Here" from the context menu.
From the command line type cp -a * / (cp SPACE -a SPACE * SPACE / )
The above mentioned error messages will appear
Once hdd activity has stopped and the command prompt # re-appears type gcc and tap the enter key
You should see a message on the order of: "gcc:no input files"
Close the terminal window and click on the devx_412.sfs file to unmount it.



http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=37462

Download devx_412.sfs from here:
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/sfs_modules-4/
Click on it so that Puppy mounts it. A window will appear with the contents of the file. Open a terminal window at that location (either press the `back-quote` key, or right-click and go to "Window->Terminal Here") and run this command:
cp -a * /
That will take a while. It will copy all the files into your normal filesystem. It will probably give an error about 'strings' being in use already. Ignore it. When it's finished, you should be able to run this command:
gcc --version
and get output like this:
Code:
# gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 4.2.2
Copyright (C) 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

#

If so, it worked. Close the terminal, close the window, and click on the devx_412.sfs file again to unmount it. You no longer need the file. You can keep it around if you want, or delete it.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 13:04    Post subject: "fd64-511.sfs not found " ....
Subject description: GRUB can't find Puppy file after frugal install
 

Hi all,

Tried searching high and low for a solution to this. After installing FatDog 511 frugally, GRUB boots the kernel, but stops after searching for the fd64-511.sfs file and not finding it. Have tried leaving copies of it in several directories, but to no avail.

Installed frugally using Puppy Universal Installer on an ext4 partition (sda5) after booting liveCD successfully. Also installed on the same partition are Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit and the 32-bit Lucid Puppy 525 - frugal, both of which boot fine. FatDog frugal files are in subdirectory /fatdog64_511. Here is my FatDog GRUB entry:

title FatDog64 5.1.1
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /fatdog64_511/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd root=/dev/sda5 pfix=ram psubdir=/fatdog64_511
initrd /fatdog64_511/initrd.gz

Need help ! Thx ...

Rick
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l2ulinux


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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 13:41    Post subject: Fatdog64-511
Subject description: Screensaver
 

My screensaver over works itself. What I mean is that I set it to 9900 secs to be able to watch internet TV. Well it came on at that time and now no matter what I do it comes on at 600 secs even if turned completely off.

All help greatly needed
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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 14:04    Post subject: Re: "fd64-511.sfs not found " ....
Subject description: GRUB can't find Puppy file after frugal install
 

Rickkk wrote:
Hi all,

Tried searching high and low for a solution to this. After installing FatDog 511 frugally, GRUB boots the kernel, but stops after searching for the fd64-511.sfs file and not finding it. Have tried leaving copies of it in several directories, but to no avail.

Installed frugally using Puppy Universal Installer on an ext4 partition (sda5) after booting liveCD successfully. Also installed on the same partition are Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit and the 32-bit Lucid Puppy 525 - frugal, both of which boot fine. FatDog frugal files are in subdirectory /fatdog64_511. Here is my FatDog GRUB entry:

title FatDog64 5.1.1
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /fatdog64_511/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd root=/dev/sda5 pfix=ram psubdir=/fatdog64_511
initrd /fatdog64_511/initrd.gz

Need help ! Thx ...

Rick
Hi @Rickkk
Until someone comes to help on this, you MAY want to run FATDOG as I have.
1. I created a SWAP "partition" that matches my RAM 8192MB+ on my HDD
2. I have ALWAYS run FATDOG from LiveDVD.It has worked flawlessly over the past year. I have installed all necessary programs (namely SAMBA 3.5.6 created by Kirk) and several others.
3. Each time the system is shutdown (rarely done), I insure to "Save to CD" as it will save all changes I make to my OS system's PETs and scripts.

This system is used as a Windows7 replacement and it is a NAS as well as a LAN boot server for all PC tests that I do with other PUPs.

It boots easily, runs speedily and is flawlessly stable.

Lastly, if need, although I have never tested, there are some steps to reduce the number of Saved sessions on your LiveDVD. I am up to 4 right now but, I have not gotten a need to do that just yet as there is a ton of room on my Live media. I can label the DVD so that I can tell what it contains (which I cannot do for any USB).

If it helps until you resolve your GRUB issues, you may want to try this.

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Fri 20 May 2011, 05:35    Post subject:  

Hi all,

Problem with install of fd64-devx_511.sfs to full install of fatdog 511

I've narrowed it down to
fd64-devx_511.sfs/usr/X11R7

This has never happened with previous builds of Fatdog or other breeds of puppy.

does anybody else compile with a full fatdog 511 install?

DC
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May 2011, 12:33    Post subject: Re: "fd64-511.sfs not found " ....
Subject description: GRUB can't find Puppy file after frugal install
 

Rickkk wrote:
Here is my FatDog GRUB entry:

title FatDog64 5.1.1
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /fatdog64_511/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd root=/dev/sda5 pfix=ram psubdir=/fatdog64_511
initrd /fatdog64_511/initrd.gz

Need help ! Thx ...

Rick
Hi Rick,
Here is my GRUB entry:
Code:
title Fatdog 64 (frugal on sda8)
root (hd0,7)
kernel /fd64/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda8 psubdir=fd64 loglevel=3 pfix=fsck
initrd /fd64/initrd.gz
You might try removing the / after psubdir= or replacing root=/dev/sda5 with pdev1=sda5 or check the md5sum on your Fatdog 64 ISO.
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Fri 20 May 2011, 13:28    Post subject: Re: "fd64-511.sfs not found " ....
Subject description: GRUB can't find Puppy file after frugal install
 

tazoc wrote:
Rickkk wrote:
Here is my FatDog GRUB entry:

title FatDog64 5.1.1
rootnoverify (hd0,4)
kernel /fatdog64_511/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd root=/dev/sda5 pfix=ram psubdir=/fatdog64_511
initrd /fatdog64_511/initrd.gz

Need help ! Thx ...

Rick
Hi Rick,
Here is my GRUB entry:
Code:
title Fatdog 64 (frugal on sda8)
root (hd0,7)
kernel /fd64/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda8 psubdir=fd64 loglevel=3 pfix=fsck
initrd /fd64/initrd.gz
savedefault
You might try removing the / after psubdir= or replacing root=/dev/sda5 with pdev1=sda5 or check the md5sum on your Fatdog 64 ISO.
-TazOC


Hi Tazoc and gcmartin,

Thank you both very kindly for your quick replies.

@gcmartin: The laptop I am attempting to try FatDog on unfortunately has no optical drive. Your suggestion would indeed be excellent for booting from a USB key, which I have as yet been unable to do with FatDog either. Other than that, I already have an 8 Gb swap partition for Linux distros, as my laptop has the same amount of RAM as yours. I will try out Tazoc's suggestions for GRUB and see if I can get FatDog to boot both from HD (frugal) and USB. More later.

@Tazoc: Thx for your GRUB entry suggestions. I will try them and let you know how it went.

Cheers all,

Rick
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