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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 09:22    Post_subject: Fatdog64-511
Sub_title: X File Explorer
 

xfe-1.32.2-x86_64.pet (X File Explorer) is similar to midnight
commander, it needs fox-1.6.43-x86_64.pet installed as well or it
won't run.
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jamesbond

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PostPosted: Mon 07 Mar 2011, 21:13    Post_subject:  

No worries Roy.
I wish I can make skype works on your machine Sad

I've mirrored all the files in this thread (including the latest xfe pets from Billtoo) in mydrive.ch (details on page 7) as a staging area before moving it to official pet repository at ibiblio.

cheers!

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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 11:54    Post_subject: Fatdog64-511
Sub_title: lpairs game
 

lpairs-1.0.4-x86_64.pet is a memory game.
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 13:39    Post_subject:  

The printer driver package foo2xxx relies on udev to download firmware to the printer. While attempting to get this working, I discovered that udev was ignoring any rules I added. I also noticed that 55-cups.rules, which is supposed to be necessary for CUPS, is also not working. Somehow, FD64 is printing in spite of this.

Has anyone tried using hardware like modems in FD64 that relies on udev rules? Did you get it to work?

[Edit] I suspect the problem is that the module usblp is not available.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 22:30    Post_subject:  

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[Edit] I suspect the problem is that the module usblp is not available.


CUPS 1.4.x has a new USB backed that requires usblp not to be loaded.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 22:34    Post_subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Has anyone tried using hardware like modems in FD64 that relies on udev rules? Did you get it to work?
I used udev rules to configure wacom inputs for my tablet (ie, to create symlinks from actual device nodes). It works.
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PostPosted: Tue 08 Mar 2011, 22:38    Post_subject:  

Both Lupu and FD have CUPS 1.4. But Lupu creates device nodes like /dev/usb/lp0 correctly while FD does not. In Lupu, usblp is loaded when you plug in a USB printer.

IIRC, when you compile CUPS 1.4, you declare that it will not use usblp.

[Edit] I have a CUPS 1.4.4 PET compiled with "--disable-libusb" that I dropped into Quirky. The device nodes are created correctly and CUPS works.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 15:47    Post_subject:  

I don't know if it will help, but I've attached the usblp module. This will normally break usb printing for Fatdog, but maybe it can work with rcrsn51 packages. I haven't tested this module, just loaded and unloaded it.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 16:03    Post_subject:  

Debian has a patch for CUPS 1.4.x to allow usblp to coexist, so maybe a new version of CUPS for the next Fatdog64.
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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 18:02    Post_subject:  

I couldn't resolve this. I got different USB behaviours depending if I compiled CUPS 1.4 in Quirky or FD64. So I gave up.

[Edit] However CUPS 1.3.11 compiles and works fine in FD.
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gcmartin

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 19:24    Post_subject: SeaMonkey problem unique to FATDOG64  

Running LiveCD FATDOG, I am experiencing a problem with the PPM's SeaMonkey V2.0.11.

I reported it here, indicating that I was using FATDOG, but have gotten no replies because, I believe, that it only relates to FATDOG's 64bit version.

I have tested various WARY implementations and other LIveCD PUPs without issues. So, it seems that maybe this is only related to 64bit at the moment.

Has anyone else seen this problem? Any advice.
P.S.
  • This is NOT a high priority as I have a circumvention, currently. But, it would be nice to check this for upcoming FATDOGs
  • This is NOT occurring in FATDOG's Namoroka. I can jump back and forth in a video.
  • SeaMonkey also indicates that "There are No new updates available..."

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PostPosted: Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:30    Post_subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
I couldn't resolve this. I got different USB behaviours depending if I compiled CUPS 1.4 in Quirky or FD64.

My mistake - I was using depmod wrong. If you install usblp and compile CUPS 1.4 with --disable-libusb, it works correctly.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Mar 2011, 13:18    Post_subject: Using LiveDVD  

@Kirk

I wanted to understand how to operate within the guidelines of the system's design for adding functionality that have been created for FATDOG in my running LiveDVDs. I have NOT experience any problems in using PPM for adding what it offers. The additions to the running system are saved via save-to-CD at reboot/shutdown. It has been very good since I discovered FATDOG last year.

BUT SFSs needs clarification in their use in FATDOG (at least for me).
2 Questions:
  • For LiveDVD, is there an "Official" approach to adding an SFS ("DEVX" for example) to the running system such that on LiveDVD reboot, it is present (I think it should be obvious that a user is saving the running system at shutdown)?

    And

  • The PPM seems good for showing its installed extensions. What is the proper tool(s) which will show SFSs that are also added to the system?
Would you share how you feel these should be handled please. (These may have been answered somewhere else for FATDOG, but I can't find it.)

Thanks in advance.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Mar 2011, 13:46    Post_subject:  

I've only ran a multisession cd/dvd setup a couple times, and then just to test that it worked. I think that the only reason to run a multisession CD would be that you don't want to write to your hard drive. In that case I think you would have to remake the main sfs file with whatever other sfs files included. Again, I really haven't given it much thought or had any experience to speak of, maybe others have ideas.
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PostPosted: Tue 15 Mar 2011, 15:04    Post_subject:  

kirk wrote:
I've only ran a multisession cd/dvd setup a couple times, and then just to test that it worked. I think that the only reason to run a multisession CD would be that you don't want to write to your hard drive. I ... Again, I really haven't given it much thought or had any experience to speak of, maybe others have ideas.
Thanks for your help.

Based upon this, I would assume that FATDOG's current implementation (at least for LiveDVD) is one of a system that extends the base system with PETs that is provided for it. Thus, there is no OFFICIAL support for SFSs in LiveDVD operations in FATDOG.

Anyone else have ideas/contributions on this for LiveDVD use.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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