Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld

Hi Stripe

Well, boot to desktop is certainly a possibility. It has been part of xorg since xorg 7.4. It was not my intention to enable that feature (kinda got plenty of other stuff to do atm Wink

)

Certainly take a look how playdayz does it with luci/lupu, the principle should be the same here and should most likely work. To be honest I haven't studied the relevant code. I did build a Lenny dpup some months ago with xorg-7.5 and it went straight to desktop without me touching anything! I didn't pursue that because Iguleder came out with his version plus mine a had a million other bugs to squash.

It could even be as simple as disabling xorgwizard.. if I recall, I didn't end up with xorgwizard in that dpup build.

Cheers

Iguleder · Posted: Fri 10 Dec 2010, 18:41 Post subject:

Wow, spup is so awesome! Very Happy

It's the first time I use a Slackware Puppy and it's simply incredible how stable and light it is! Consumes 80-90 MB with Parcellite, xbindkeys, Ppower and lots of other stuff that run in the background. Cool

I compiled a bunch of packages for it, here - those include a Firefox installer based on my FetchPet script. I also made a PET from the official binaries of Firefox 3.6.13, so the package can update itself - I tested this combo: I added the repo to PPM and the installer picked this PET Very Happy

This is my attempt to write my own mini-Quickpet in the spirit of the UNIX philosophy Laughing

Now the mini-repo has mtPaint, xbindkeys, powertop and other goodies. xbindkeys is tuned to run LXTask on CTRL+ALT+DEL, acpitool -s on Fn+Zz and mtpaintsnapshot.sh on PrintScreen. I like it, very useful, especially for those with old Windows habits Cool

Some applications are more minimalistic (Osmo, for example - no contacts or notes), but generally, they're enough for most users. DeaDBeeF has support for just MP3, FLAC, Vorbis and WAV ... after all, why include a dedicated music player if it's not lighter than mplayer? JWM is compiled without the shape extension so no rounded corners (makes JWM a 'lil bit lighter and more elegant imho Laughing

) and the jwmrc-tray has a terminal button. The DejaVu fonts PET has the four fonts Woof has, but not the LGC variants, to make sites in exotic languages such as Hebrew readable. This PET replaces the Woof fonts and the dejavu_fonts_extra PET has the rest of the DejaVu fonts.

Tomorrow I want to build a spup based directly on yours, 01micko, but include all those goodies to see how big it is. The Firefox trick saves around 10-15 MB already. All the packages (except the extra fonts PET, Flash and Firefox) are 5.7 MB without DOC/DEV/NLS and 13 MB with just NLS. I think it's quite good, considering the fact it's pretty much everything except Abiword, Gnumeric, ffmpeg and mplayer. These packages are quite small compared to other Puppy packages, so maybe they even save space ... Woof will tell Laughing

Anyway, enough for one day, time to get some sleep. 73 neatly trimmed and stripped packages in around 3 hours. Phew Razz

Stripe · Posted: Fri 10 Dec 2010, 20:07 Post subject:

Thanks 01 micko for the ideas I will have a look,
I was not asking for it to be in spup 051 and I know you are doing more than enough (if not too much) with the commitments you have already, and doing a brilliant job of it as well. Wink

I am just making a version that loads and runs totally in ram from a usb stick. I have it booting to desktop already in ram mode by initially making a save file then copying the needed config and program files to the main sfs (It already loads with my settings and programs as default without having a save file) Just like the idea of it self setting the video resolution, so that it would increase the amount of hardware it would be compatible with.

Cheers and thanks again
Stripe

Billtoo · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1497 Location: Ontario Canada

I just saw this new spup today.
Running live with a save file.
I installed the nvidia pet and exited to the prompt,did the
nvidia-xconfig and then xwin.The driver installed (my pc gets quieter
with the proper driver installed) but some odd results:

# glxgears
36668 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7333.600 FPS
51880 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10376.000 FPS
51897 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10379.400 FPS
51925 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10385.000 FPS
51897 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10379.400 FPS
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Slack Puppy, version 051

Chip description:
07:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

Driver used by Xorg:
vesa

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Hardware acceleration is definately working but it says vesa is being
used.

I made some pets in spup but I see the apps in ppm, the htop I made is
newer so I'll attach that.

Béèm · Posted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 07:11 Post subject:

Billtoo, what is the advantage of the newer htop?

Stripe · Posted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 07:25 Post subject:

Hi 01micko

have got spup to boot straight to desktop using Quickset puppy (and some great advice from shinobar) and it automaticaly sets the screen resolution (at least on the 2 machines I have tried it on) the modified spup 051 sfs is still 90mb, and works with the original vmlinuz, intrid and Zfs files, so now I can run my custom spup from a usb stick on different hardware without having to configure it on every boot.
Thanks again for the advice
Stripe

Billtoo · Joined: 07 Apr 2009 Posts: 1497 Location: Ontario Canada

Béèm · Posted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 11:54 Post subject:

Iguleder · Posted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 12:37 Post subject:

Hey 01micko, here's my "improved" spup 051. Still uploading the devx.

It's the same as 051 but has many apps I compiled, a Firefox installer, a cool JWM ( Laughing

) with my JWM theme and a repo in PPM with all the funky packages. Oh, it also has my 2.6.35.9 kernel with BFS - no nvidia/modem/ndiswrapper and it boots very slowly from USB for some reason, other kernels don't have this problem, it's just 2.6.35.x.

RAM usage is great, around 80 MB and if you stop xbindkeys, ppower, parcellite and other stuff you can get it around 65-70 MB easily.

It has xbindkeys, so CTRL+ALT+DEL, Fn+Zz and PrintScreen should work. Ummm ... Gnumeric and Abiword are Quirky's, I failed to compile both because of conflicts between Slackware's older libraries with the new goffice/libgsf they want.

Ignore the name, version number and the "-alpha", this thing won't be released as a puplet Smile

taca0 · Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 119

Problems with VLC 1.1.5 .pet Its plays with XV but the screen in black with audio and X11 plays video in green or blue colors ???

its that normal??

taca0 · Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 119

Iguleder:

I try your version but the mouse not work or pointer not move. Any solution ?? Mouse its a ps2 ...

Stripe · Posted: Sat 11 Dec 2010, 16:23 Post subject:

Hi taca0
what are you trying to play with vlc? do you have a link so I can try it?

Stripe

James C · Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4742 Location: Kentucky

nancy reagan · Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 435

01micko · Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7019 Location: qld