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#436 Post by 01micko »

sc0ttman wrote:
01micko wrote:Ok guys

Here is a simple desktop configurator with a few templates for customising your desktop.
Does this disable the ROX pinboard when you select no icons and no drive icons?
(I'm downloading it and will hack it up and play with it to check anyway, but I just wondered - others might like to know as well..)
No sc0ttman, doesn't touch anything rox apart from PuppyPin. It also alters /etc/eventmanager, but you can get the same effect by running eventmanager in regard to the drive icons.
hth

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#437 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi 01micko,

Your desktop configurator for customising your desktop works fine with spup and lucid. Great that you enable current custom setup to be saved. Finally an easy way to eliminate desktop clutter.

Looks great with stu90's wallpaper.

Thanks,
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#438 Post by 01micko »

Thanks Jim1911, there is a new version of desksetup http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 481#487481

It fixes a wallpaper bug with the custom setting.

I am going to add stu90's wall to 056, which may (or may not) be ready on the weekend. I like that notebook variation of the app too stu90. I may even adopt that approach and add radky's apps too.

One good thing about my app is that now, after you install an sfs it's a breeze to get your desktop back how it was. That bug (sfs) is also on my todo list but does involve tampering with critical system files.

Jim.. does TazOC have a fix for that, since LHP relies heavily on sfs?

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#439 Post by Jim1911 »

01micko wrote:Jim.. does TazOC have a fix for that, since LHP relies heavily on sfs?
Mick,
I usually use KDE4.4 with LHP and it has no problem with the desktop changing when adding sfs. I did switch over to JWM, added a sfs, rebooted, and there was no problem with that desktop either, so he may have a fix.

However, your new desktop configurator provides quick restoration of the desktop. I always manually backed up /Choices/ROX-filer/PuppyPin anyway so custom desktop could be quickly restored, now you've made that simple.

Radky's applications are a great addition. On my desktop, the last two items on wbar are his PupApps and PupShutdown. PupShutdown provides access to PupControl which allows access to all his applications. PupApps provides quick menu access to most used puppy programs.

You may also want to add your lucid wbar. All you have to do for it to work in spup is remove the default Quickpet selection.

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#440 Post by playdayz »

01micko, I am thinking to post links to your desktop configurator plus radky's control panel in LupuNews. jim1911 said it works with Lucid. I'll check a bit--do you see any problems?

Oops, The minimal desktop icons worked fine, but the single drive icon didn't take--all the drive icons are back. I know you are not specifically supporting lucid here. It was in icewm btw. Same in jwm.

Hey stripe, I *am* taking a rest. Not being the "boss" is very relaxing ;-)

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#441 Post by yarddog »

installed desktop setup-0.3.pet. when I try to show only one drive icon or no drive icons receive message that x will be restarted but nothing happens
I restart x manually and nothing changed
Running full install to hard drive with several applications such as wbar, xchat, deadbeef, pupcontrol, xorghigh, roxterm, bibletime installed

any ideas

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#442 Post by Jim1911 »

playdayz wrote:01micko, I am thinking to post links to your desktop configurator plus radky's control panel in LupuNews. jim1911 said it works with Lucid. I'll check a bit--do you see any problems?

Oops, The minimal desktop icons worked fine, but the single drive icon didn't take--all the drive icons are back. I know you are not specifically supporting lucid here. It was in icewm btw. Same in jwm.

Hey stripe, I *am* taking a rest. Not being the "boss" is very relaxing ;-)
Hi playdayz,

Mick has posted updates that fixes some bugs. I've had no problems with it on my hardware using JWM or Openbox.

Also, consider adding all five of radky's applications to LupuNews, PupControl, PupApps, PupShutdown, PupClockset, and PupSnap. All five work well with Lucid and are a fine addition. I've used most of them daily through luci, lupu, and now 5.2.

Your "rest" is well deserved.

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#443 Post by 01micko »

playdayz wrote:01micko, I am thinking to post links to your desktop configurator plus radky's control panel in LupuNews. jim1911 said it works with Lucid. I'll check a bit--do you see any problems?

Oops, The minimal desktop icons worked fine, but the single drive icon didn't take--all the drive icons are back. I know you are not specifically supporting lucid here. It was in icewm btw. Same in jwm.

Hey stripe, I *am* taking a rest. Not being the "boss" is very relaxing ;-)
What it is is that lupu has a slightly different puppypin due to the fact that quickpet is on the desktop. What I would need to do is add cases for the current 52x series and the older 5x series because those older pinboards included a chat icon and QP was lower., no problem I can do it. It's is only dependant on rox running as the pinboard so wm shouldn't make a difference. That said, if rox isn't running (say as in xfce4) then I should put in code that stops the app running.

Yarddog.

I'm not sure what happened there, but it is possible that installing after many modifications may have caused a problem. Ideally this app should be in the iso by default to avoid those issues.
I'll see if I can reproduce your errors and see if there's a fix.

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#444 Post by playdayz »

Also, consider adding all five of radky's applications to LupuNews, PupControl, PupApps, PupShutdown, PupClockset, and PupSnap. All five work well with Lucid and are a fine addition. I've used most of them daily through luci, lupu, and now 5.2.
I have got them jim1911. Pupclockset is already in the iso--oh, that might be a new one.

It's coming.

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#445 Post by 01micko »

desksetup-0.4

Ok, bug fixed, should work fine in lupu, spup, any post woof puppy (I think). I only tested in lupu-520 and spup-055 and 052.

There is a tiny bug in eventmanager. The pristine /etc/eventmanager file has double quotes wrapping all the true and false statements, but as soon as you run eventmanager either from menu or right clicking a drive icon those double quotes disappear. I have a workaround in place where if (and only if) the double quotes are detected then they are removed. This does not affect eventmanager at all. It still runs fine.

I also added cases for lupu less than 515 (for 500-511) and for 515 and greater. (luci wont work correctly, sorry)

All other puppies should be covered, but if used in a puplet with a custom pinboard then this will revert to stock puppy pinboard by default, defined by the DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX (see /etc/DISTRO_SPECS for an explanation)

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#446 Post by Stripe »

Hi all

trying to compile kde 3.5 and its asking for Qt3.3> <4.0 any ideas on a workaround? or do I need to compile an earlier version of qt?

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#447 Post by stu90 »

desksetup-0.4:
drive/desk settings working great here 01micko on Lucid 5.2
cheers.

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#448 Post by yarddog »

that fixed problem for me with drive icons appearing properly - I still have a problem with restarting x - only way is click on menu option to restart then press ctrl-alt-del - possible problem with some of stuff i have added. will erase and do another full install tomorrow and report back .
thanks for help on desktop setup

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#449 Post by 01micko »

Hi yarddog

Good the drive icons are fixed but it does seem to appear that something on your system is corrupt. If you have to press ctrl-alt-bkspce just to restart X then something is wrong. I can't see anything obvious with what you have installed but it appears X is not being killed. You list "xorghigh".. is this the one from lupu? If so that will be your issue. We do have a "mesa" package for spup that should do the same thing, available from the setup icon, "Update X Drivers" or the PPM, type "mesa*" in the search box with the spup repo checked. Make sure you uninstall xorg_high first, and pray that that doesn't break anything!

Thanks for reporting

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Stripe,

I guess you got your answer in your question... kde3 needs qt3.
I'm going to try something foolish and try TazOC's kde4 for LHP in spup and see what's missing.. (EDIT, no I won't, it's 450M and needs mariner sfs.. gives it potential of being over 500M sfs in spup :shock: ) ... I haven't time to muck about with kde3/trinity just yet.

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#450 Post by Stripe »

Hi all

01micko have downloaded trinity but got sidetracked with icewm (lucid), don't know if its spup or my machine but it is flying compared to jwm, am going to try it on the old 800mhz box as well as compiling it in spup.

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#451 Post by James C »

Desksetup 0.4 is working fine here.Presently running 2 frugals and 1 full install of 055.

Tried Trinity....... tried to load but got some error messages that I don't remember at the moment.Will check again a bit later.

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#452 Post by DaveS »

Something is not quite right with the mplayer browser performance.
Click on this link and mplayer should load in a fresh page of the browser, fill its cache to around 7% and then begin to play the video as a stream. This is how it works in all my other Puppies. In spup it does not work. I think it tries to download the whole video and then play it, though I ran out of patience waiting for it to complete.
Try the link first in spup, then in Lucid to see what I mean. Sorry for the late heads up :(

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TEDTalks ... _2010X.mp4
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#453 Post by Jim1911 »

DaveS wrote:Something is not quite right with the mplayer browser performance.
Click on this link and mplayer should load in a fresh page of the browser, fill its cache to around 7% and then begin to play the video as a stream. This is how it works in all my other Puppies. In spup it does not work. I think it tries to download the whole video and then play it, though I ran out of patience waiting for it to complete.
Try the link first in spup, then in Lucid to see what I mean. Sorry for the late heads up :(

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TEDTalks ... _2010X.mp4
I'm in Lucid 5.2 and it tried to download the entire page but stopped when the cache filled up. It may be a page problem, I don't think it has anything to do with spup. What pup has this link worked on?

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#454 Post by pemasu »

Same with me. Using Snowpuppy-004. It loads cache 100 % full and then stops.

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#455 Post by Stripe »

Hi all

same hear Dave seamonkey is just trying to download it

I cant get MHwaveedit to work. missing dependency libsamplerate.so.0

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