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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 03:39    Post_subject:  

Alright, it's here. At the moment I'm compiling it to test my partial intel_idle backport and make sure it boots.

My previous build didn't, I replaced vmlinuz with a new one, hoping this thing will boot, so maybe it failed because the modules could not be loaded. The two kernels were very different, so maybe that's why it failed.

Anyway, 2.6.35.x was declared "longterm" and I really hope this kernel is going to work. I think I could also backport Squashfs from 2.6.36.1, since it has LZO support.

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 03:41    Post_subject:  

01micko wrote:
johnnywinner.. nice desktop! Where did you get the tint 2 (version please) and openbox packages? As for the suspend issue it could be to do with rfkill, I didn't look at the kernel configuration but I believe it is disabled. It also could be a video driver issue .. some more info from you please? (Computer model, vid driver)


tint2-0.11 and openbox-3.4.11.2, straight from PPM, worked fine. I'll make my own with slkbuild or src2pkg, but wanted to put the desktop together quickly.

Model name is Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor. Video driver: i915 (Intel).

Hope that helps!

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Here is my /proc/cpuinfo, if that's of use:
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 13
model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
stepping : 8
cpu MHz : 1862.131
cache size : 2048 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 2
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss tm pbe nx up bts est tm2
bogomips : 3724.26
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 32 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 04:50    Post_subject:  

Hi all

Printer sorted thanks 01micko

Devx looks great have just compiled vlc 1.1.5 just need to be able to run it as root now (to sort the dependencies), think I need a hex editor to alter the binary (unless someone knows different?)

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 05:12    Post_subject:  

Stripe, I think VLC had some option in its configure script.

And by the way, thanks - 01micko, I'm downloading the ISO - I need a Puppy for my netbook, something I can use at least for a month Laughing

And by the way, do you want the minxcal replacement I wrote? minixcal is annoying - it doesn't close and if you look at the sources, they no longer compile, this package is ancient. I decided to write a simple calendar application based on a Hello World and minixcal (I took just the lines that deal with the calendar widget and modified them).

EDIT: I'll attach it, I talk too much.

EDIT 2: eeeek, the PET doesn't work, the "minixcal" script is not in PATH or something. Just download the sources and copy minixcal to /usr/bin.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 05:24    Post_subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
Stripe, I think VLC had some option in its configure script..


Yes, I think so too.

Iguleder wrote:

EDIT: I'll attach it, I talk too much.

EDIT 2: eeeek, the PET doesn't work, the "minixcal" script is not in PATH or something. Just download the sources and copy minixcal to /usr/bin.


No worries, I'll take a look Wink

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 05:51    Post_subject:  

Thanks Iguleder

You take care and stay safe

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 06:15    Post_subject:  

Well, got 4 days and Debian Sid is too crazy, so I can't make a "instant Puppy" recipe. So I guess I'll be on the spup front, at least for now Laughing

I'm trying to build a spup for personal use, if I see any problems I'll report them right away. Working with Debian and Ubuntu wooflets improves bug-related skills, indeed Laughing

I think Slackware is the best candidate for a retro-Puppy ... it would be more than nice to have a release-quality Slackware wooflet Smile

By the way: a small bugfix you can apply right away: /etc/fonts/local.conf, uncomment stuff. Fixes font problems in Mozilla Browsers and maybe in other apps too.
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 07:09    Post_subject:  

<rant>
Iguleder,
Slackware is really the "art" of linux. It has always been one of my favourites. I started out with RedHat, then Mandrake and delved into Slackware, but often it was way over my head. Now I have the ability to understand exactly what a script (or even C/C++ source) is supposed to do it all becomes somewhat clear.

Patrick Volkerding must be the master of shell script. It is just elegant. My scripts look like a herd of elephants jumped all over them! But I conjoured the energy. Take a look at my alien2puppy script. It actually handles the Slackware 'doinst.sh' in a Slackware way.. converted to a .pet style! I amazed my self! That's the day I became a developer Wink .

I have a vision. The *.Slackbuild method is superb, and super easy, just grab the source and run the script.. all gets packaged... take it a step further and run 'new2dir', all gets packaged properly! A simple hack to Patrick's *.Slackbuild's could revolutionalise puppy packaging (at least for spup Wink ).

Bad luck you have to go away for awhile. On the bright side though, you'll be back! And there will be a bunch of exciting stuff happening here you can bet Wink
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About to test font fix.

Cheers Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 08:27    Post_subject:  

Hi all

I had to compile emacs to edit the vlc binary (config file was only in the static version) If anyone wants vlc-1.1.5.pet (9.8mb) (english version with all dependencies compiled in spup) here is the download link:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BwWD08HgAd2yYmRjZDY4YzEtMTJhOC00NGU4LWEwOGEtMjYyMjMwYmE2MGM3&hl=en_GB

If anyone wants an emacs 23.2 pet (39mb) just ask and I will put it up

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Thanks ttuuxxx its so much easier compiling in ram
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 09:14    Post_subject:  

Whoa! Stripe!

Excellent stuff! Did you happen to save the NLS stuff for VLC? If so can you upload it?

And.. why not put up the emacs pet to boot.. Smile

Cheers!

[vlc added to main post Wink .. Thanks!]

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 09:58    Post_subject:  

Hi all

vlc-1.1.5-ml.pet (multi locale version 16mb) download:
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BwWD08HgAd2yMzEzMDllYTgtMTI2Ny00YzZkLWIxZWEtMDZkODNkOTUzNjAy&hl=en_GB

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edited to add: download for emacs-23.2-spup.pet(39mb):
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0BwWD08HgAd2yYTliZTJhNzktMmE3YS00NDE2LWFhZDAtZGY5MjA3YWE3NDRm&hl=en_GB

no missing dependencies but may need some fine tuning
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 10:48    Post_subject:  

micko just did a new boot exactly the same as my first boot and there was no problem with bold a and r in rox, an no black text on yellow background appeared during wep wifi connect.
no ideas at this end sorry

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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 15:01    Post_subject: test run of slackpup  

hey micko01. looking good so far.sound at boot . no video issues. auto connect no prob.

some things:
1 no screensaver- it turned my monitor topwersaveingmode. might sugest adding xscreensaver to it.

2. yay link in new window works in xchat!! thank you. please post that somewher so that it can be repeated across Puppy.

that's about it so far, only on for about 8 hrs. i will give more feed back after i try it out on my dell lappy.


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Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1300MHz
Memory 384MB (151MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.05
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 09 Dec 2010 10:59:39 AM GMT+8
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OpenGL Renderer Unknown
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Multimedia
Audio Adapter EMU10K1 - SB Live! Value [CT4780]
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AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
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CUPS-PDF Default
SCSI Disks
ATA WDC WD135AA
Lite-On LTN486 48x Max
_NEC NR-7800A
SanDisk U3 Cruzer Micro
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Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.34.1 (i686)
Compiled #1 SMP Fri Jul 16 19:16:08 GMT-8 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.1 (stable)
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Distribution Puppy Linux 0.05
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Load Average 0.65, 0.67, 0.41
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nf_conntrack
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snd_seq_dummy ALSA sequencer MIDI-through client
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intel_agp
fbcon
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parport
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PostPosted: Thu 09 Dec 2010, 17:02    Post_subject:  

Hey 01micko, I compiled a bunch of apps, here. They're around 2 MB in total (no NLS/DOC/DEV) and ~5.5 MB with NLS.

The repo has Viewnior, Transmission, Leafpad, IguCal (my minixcal replacement), Parcellite, Ppower (my power schemes tray icon), Asunder, Xchat, Xpad and more. Tomorrow I want to compile a small Geany and more apps, maybe LXTask/LXRandR (can't live without those), office apps and a browser.

I compiled them on a Debian Sid Puppy, but since Debian Squeeze and Lupu are 99% compatible, these should work on spup too.

Take a look at the package sizes for Transmission, DeaDBeeF and Homebank, I can't believe I got them so small Very Happy

EDIT: eeek, I see bloat on the multimedia front. I think I'll try to compile ffmpeg and mplayer if I find the time.

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec 2010, 18:21    Post_subject:  

Hi all

01micko, I have just installed shinobars 1st run pet in the 051 sfs, is there an easy way to get it to boot to desktop (without a save file) using the default settings I have set in the firstrun pet code? (instead of the usual manual kernel set up) or do I need to look at the way lucid is set up?

I have 051 installed on a usb drive and am running it in ram mode all of the time, and instead of altering the sfs config files to make it usable on only one machine, I am trying to use the first run wizard so that it will automatically set the screen resolution for different machines. (without having to do it manually every time).

Sorry to be a pain
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