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Terminal (tty) sessions "go nowhere"

#16 Post by gcmartin »

I probably missed this candy dish when it was passed around, but what is suppose to happen when I attempt to sign into a terminal session (say Ctrl-Alt-Fn, where "n" is a number between 2-6)?

My sessions logins seem to go off to never-never land.

I went back to the last "rc" that I have, and it too does the same thing. I can't sign into to a Terminal session at the FATDOG console. GUI session (ctrl-alt-F7) is OK even though the console Terminal sessions are hung.

P.S. I run a LiveCD and a LiveDVD session only.

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#17 Post by Sage »

Ditto, no offense meant or taken. The guy(s) I commune with for cutting edge advice are long-in-tooth. The arguments they give seem to relate to deployment, not absolute utility. There is no doubt about the advantages of 64/128/256bit devices in appropriate contexts - that's not what I said nor implied. Just that the box in your home environment not only does not benefit from 64bit, but it can confer definite disadvantages for its intended porpoise (sic!). This can be observed easily. On the other hand, a modest but well-used server cluster is different; by the time we up-the-anti to the uni. maths lab or experiment control at CERN, folks will be crying out for 256bit precision and speed.
As for our ally, Kirk, I have always supported his efforts - as the records clearly show. M$ is no guide to where the technology is at or going - they just milk the soft targets via the Wintel cartel to fill their coffers. Their contributions are largely negative.

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Re: Advantages of 64-bit FatDog Puppy over 32-bit Puppy Distros?

#18 Post by jamesbond »

Short answer - reason to use 64-bit OS (Linux / Windows / anything):
1. If you have more than 3 GB memory installed
2. If some of the applications require more than 2GB of memory usage (anything that require large memory-resident datasets - large databases, large image manipulations, cad/cam programs etc)

Otherwise there isn't much benefit to go 64-bit. Speed improvements are rather arbitrary and very application specific.
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#19 Post by Billtoo »

Here is the xchat irc client, it creates an entry in the internet
section of the puppy menu.
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#20 Post by gcmartin »

Something else to think about. Say you have a customer who is about to purchase from Dell/HP a set of desktop machine(s). The machines have a 64bit processor, matching mature chipset, and 2-4GB RAM.

As their consultant, what would YOU tell the people you are there to help? "Get the 32bit stable OS" or "get the 64bit stable OS"; both options have the same services (albeit in one they are 32bit and the other is 64bit. Lastly (and most importantly) the primary application is available in both 32bit and 64 bit.

This does not require any answer. Its an example of how I see the world. Hardware, system services and stability, requirements ===> FATDOG64!

BTW: Something Everyone will Appreciate (ha-ha) <=== a Geek's Must Read

Holiday Joy and spirits for everyone. Make this a Joy for everyone around you and yourself. Smile with them, comfort them, and instruct them to do the same.

P.S.This exchange has really made me think about where I would go for a 32bit machine. I don't know where I would go to buy a 32bit configuration anymore. Game machines on my LAN are 64bit...What's a fellow to do? Please no spam....please.

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#21 Post by Billtoo »

This is the weechat irc chat client.
It creates an entry in the Internet section of the puppy menu.

For those unfamiliar with weechat get more info at these links:

http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable ... html#start
http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable ... er.en.html

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Problem with internet connection

#22 Post by TSK »

Thanks for help, now I did get the FatDog running, but now I have different problem, with network.

How I can load Windows setup? I have student LAN and I think there´s a NAT and that´s probably the reason why auto etho doesn´t work. Which .inf file I have to choose from Windows .inf folder?

Thanks again.

gcmartin

#23 Post by gcmartin »

@TSK
Does the Net-Wizard on your FATDOG desktop offer you the solution to remedy?

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#24 Post by kirk »

Jamesbond,

I didn't see that you answered TSKs previous post, I've been out of town using my Blackberry's little screen. I'll have to try unetbootin.

Billtoo,

When I get some time I'll grab your pets and test them out and add them to the repo. Thanks.

WB7ODYFred,

As for the reason for 64bit. Back when I made Fatdog-200, I made a 32bit version and a 64bit version. Both had the exact same packages and I tested on the exact same hardware. Handbrake is about 20% faster in the 64bit version. That's a big difference when your talking about a DVD rip that takes 45-60 minutes. A lot of things you won't see any difference, It depends on if the program your running takes advantage of the CPU's features. I guess the better question would be if you have a 64bit computer, why would you want to run a 32bit os? The only reason I can think of would be to run some 32bit only program. Wine would be a good example of that, but James has put together a couple packages to take care of that. Guys, please don't turn this into a 32bit vs 64bit thread.

I usually use ext3 on a hard drive and I've started using ext4 on flash since it's performance seems very good there. I was using ext4 on hard drives too, but much of it's performance advantages have been lost as bugs have been fixed. That said ether ext3 or ext4 is a fine choice.

Tui,

For the screen resolution problem try Menu - Setup - Xorg Video Wizard and see if that helps. Automatic Xorg setup depends on a monitor that EDID compliant, so ether that's the problem or you may need one of the proprietary video drivers for ATI or Nvidia pet packages.

For the network problem, does the Network wizard show your card?


TSK,

Fatdog64 doesn't auto-connect to anything. Try the network wizard.


Anyone out there using Nvidia graphics? Just wondering how that's going.

Anyone using the Samba-Server to share files?

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#25 Post by Billtoo »

kirk wrote:Jamesbond

Billtoo,

When I get some time I'll grab your pets and test them out and add them to the repo. Thanks


Anyone out there using Nvidia graphics? Just wondering how that's going.

I have fatdog 510 installed on a flash drive (one of several) and am using it
on my acer revo nettop, it has nvidia ion.

# glxgears
9080 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1815.887 FPS
9997 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1999.398 FPS
10023 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2004.412 FPS
9937 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1987.342 FPS
9947 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1989.202 FPS
#
Display
Resolution 1280x1024 pixels
OpenGL Renderer ION/PCI/SSE2
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation

OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer ION/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 260.19.21
Direct Rendering Yes

Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Memory 1797MB (136MB used)
Operating System Puppy Linux 0.50
User Name root (root)
Date/Time Thu 09 Dec 2010 04:53:42 PM GMT+5

Fatdog 510 is working well on this little pc.

I have a few other small pets that I've made, a couple of larger ones too, seamonkey 2.0.10 and deadbeef 4.4 music player but they are too large to attach to a message.

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#26 Post by Jim1911 »

Hi Kirk,

Thanks for the new 510, it's fast, stable, and I've observed no problems.
Anyone out there using Nvidia graphics? Just wondering how that's going.
Your nvidia-260.19.21-for-510-only.pet works fine.

Everything is working fine, including the following applications.
  • === /initrd/tmp/EXTRASFSS ===
    LibreOffice_3.3.0_beta2_64_sfs4.sfs
    fd64-32bit-libs-3.sfs
    fd64-32bit-libs.sfs
    jre160_amd64-3.sfs
    === User Installed Pkgs (PPM) ===
    Package Description
    wcpufreq-0.4 CPU Frequency Scaling Tool
    nvidia-260.19.21 Configure NVIDIA X Server Settings
    LHP_sys_info-0.3 Lighthouse System Information & Video Report
System: BFG NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS 512MB, Asus P6T Motherboard, Intel core i7-920 (8MB Cache, 2.66 GHz), DDR3 3GB 1333MHz ram, Pioneer DVR-2910 DVD+-RW Dual Layer Burner, Realtek ALC1200 Audio, HP Photosmart C5280 All-in-One

Kudos,
Jim

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#27 Post by Sage »

1. If you are using any version of Puppy and want to install >1Gb memory, you should ask your relatives to have the men in white coats call.
2. If you are still buying proprietary scrap off-the-shelf rather than specifying and building your own box, you should ask....
3.If you buy laptops (other than for experimentation)....
World+dog has been conned for far too long with technology they don't need for prices they can't afford. No wonder the bankers are laughing all the way to, errr, the banks.

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#28 Post by fluxit »

Fatdog is quite nice. Thanks kirk.

fatdog pfix=ram doesn't seem to work though. It complains of fd*.sfs not found and drops me to the prompt.

You might want to set the default for "firefox" to not run pets, as it doesn't work(for obvious reasons.)

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#29 Post by Billtoo »

These pets are a small music player and a terminal emulator.

http://cmus.sourceforge.net/#home <--- for information about cmus
music player.

The number keys 1-7 show different screens with 5 being the browser to
navigate to your music files and 7 shows all the commands.

Mrxvt is a terminal emulator with tabs and transparency and other
options available in the mrxvt menus.
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#30 Post by tronkel »

Just been trying Fatdog 510.

Can't seem to connect to the internet. My ethernet card uses the forcedeth driver.

I can see both the ethernet card and the WLAN card. Both acquire a normal valid IP address using the network wizard which show up as usual in ifconfig - but browser won't connect.

Any ideas? Permissions problem?
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powerplay

#31 Post by Prospere »

Hello since the Kernel of this release is 2.6.35, I would like to use powerplay for my radeon HD ATI card
but the command

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echo low > /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
send me

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bash: /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_profile
Since powerplay is in the Kernel, and not any other where, What happen?

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#32 Post by Billtoo »

This is Elinks text web browser, pressing the <Esc> key opens the menu.
The setup menu allows changing the language used in the menus, 31 languages.
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wine sfs - winecfg error

#33 Post by davids45 »

G'day,

Running 510 as a frugal, with the seamonkey pet linking well with my existing profile, bookmarks, address books and email files. So the 64-bit Pup can read the 32-bit data?

I have the 64-bit wine sfs booting at start-up but the winecfg is reporting an error when tried from urxvt:

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/usr/bin/winecfg: line 29: /usr/bin/wine: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/winecfg: line 29: /usr/bin/wine: Success
The menu entries are in place in /usr/share/applications so the wine sfs seems to load up OK - just won't configure. No .wine directory in /root.

Thanks for any advice.

David S.

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#34 Post by ghead »

tronkel

For what it's worth I have a similar problem. The network wizard in 510 detects the network and assigns an ip but I can't access the internet. I had no problem with 500 (I'm using it to write this).

gcmartin

#35 Post by gcmartin »

Cant connect to Internet
  1. What happens when you "ping yahoo.com"? ...post your ping result
  2. what browser are you using?

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