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Puppy Linux 530 and beyond Wishlist
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 18:59    Post subject:  Puppy Linux 530 and beyond Wishlist
Subject description: What do you want added?
 

I'm making this thread as a list for developers to look at, either for project ideas or for ISO creators. If you feel that something should be added, post below!

Wishlist:

Community:
- better online docs before a release
- better way to submit bugs

Project ideas:
- better installer (using GRUB4DOS, and picks up currently installed OSes)
- better wireless support
- online, community run PPM for better pet organization
- "get drivers" installer
- able to edit menu (add/remove/move)
- new "puppy" programs (to replace Pmusic, Pprocess ...)
- theme packs (1 click export and import)
- easier way to update (script to export names of old programs, and another to download and install?)
- ARM compatibility

ideas for woof:
- better way to submit bugs/patches
- support for more languages (sfs that is automatically loaded on first boot)
- options to save or not (always, never, and ask)
- button to backup pupsave (and easily boot from that if current is corrupt)
- run fsck on boot automatically (disable from GRUB, nofsck?)
- add suspend/hibernate
- easier to submit patches to woof (GIT?))
- better encryption algorithm for save files
- more control over pupsave size (enlarge by user submitted number, and able to shrink)
- able to boot as non-root (for people who might delete something, like young kids)
- increased compatibility with DEB files (and other types)

Any other ideas?

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 19:42    Post subject: Re: Puppy Linux 5.3.0 and beyond Wishlist
Subject description: What do you want added?
 

noryb009 wrote:
I'm making this thread as a list for developers to look at, either for project ideas or for ISO creators. If you feel that something should be added, post below!

Wishlist:
- better installer (using GRUB4DOS, and picks up currently installed OSes)


I want Puppy to absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely shut down cleanly (particularly when running frugal/pupsave), and perform "fsck" on startup, every time.

Perhaps have a script/initializer file that sits in the same directory as the pupsave, that allows advanced users to select "no scan", or some such (or the mere presence, or lack thereof, of a file tells puppy to scan or not). E.G. the advanced use could add a file named ".dontscan" in the boot folder (where the pusave lies), turning off the default.

And there's really no reason Puppy couldn't mount the pupsave read-only, look for a ".boot_options" in /root/, umount and perform those options, then load (then each pupsave, or user as the case may be, can independently control their settings).

A further note is that encrypted pupsaves cannot be fsck-ed on bootup, but only by loading a different pupsave and loopback... This should be patched at some point.

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- able to boot as non-root (for people who might delete something, like young kids)


As long as we're going here, how about a truly protected mode, where young kids could have access to games and various learning tools, but cannot actually change anything (other than the "scoreboards", which automatically save their results elsewhere).

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 20:03    Post subject:  

Retro: added. The kids distro might be better as a remaster.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 23:37    Post subject:  

An interface to stop saving on every reboot on usb etc..

I know there is something in the works.

And some troublesome Atheros drivers added.

Pwireless2 added...3 options to connect.

"""""""""

Wireless hotspots.

A Firesheep defence might be needed.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58305&start=30

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 00:23    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:
An interface to stop saving on every reboot on usb etc..

I know there is something in the works.


Perhaps this indicates that there should be a main customizer/controller file (where the user can specify "fsck on boot", "ask for save on exit", "never save on exit", etc)

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 00:26    Post subject:  

I hope to see improvements in:

core (woof build system)
community (more developers and testers contributing)
customisation (more pets, packages and SFS)

Further compatibility with deb files
Touchscreen and tablet sfs
Puppy ARM (awaiting mass market product)
Puppy programs in Vala, Bacon, HTML5, Bash script
Closer collaboration and usage from Wooflet and puplet builders
Awareness and movement towards Saluki (not yet an issue)

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 09:33    Post subject:  

5.3:
- Full multimedia backend from Ubuntu (yes, yes - with the whole ffmpeg and mplayer)
- JWM!
- Full browser with SSL capabilities
- Some applications replaced (Luvcview, Pmusic, Pprocess, ...)
- Upgrades for all 4.x packages (things like Uget, which is ancient)
- Same kernel as in previous 5.x versions

6.0:
- Complete overhaul of the Puppy skeleton, including the init scripts
- Faster and simpler boot process, less boot codes, automatic detection of the boot partition
- Recent packages built manually from scratch and not T2
- Complete removal of deprecated packages (Bash 3.x, pupdial, etc') and use of deprecated APIs (the power applet, xorgwizard, etc').
- XDG menus, xdg user directories
- New build system that uses raw binary packages
- Python and Perl in the ISO
- No PulseAudio, SELinux, HAL ...
- No Aufs (or UnionFS, whatever)

6.x: improvements over 6.0, same kernel for all versions.

7.x: 6.x rebuilt with recent packages and improvements; same kernel for all versions.

EDIT: another thing I forgot to mention - I'd like to see more "cloud" stuff in 6.x. For example, some online word processor application could save some size.

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 10:43    Post subject:  

hi hope i`m not driving any one nuts about thisone but i wish puppy would come with more 3G modem support including the newest wvdial

thanks
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 10:48    Post subject:  

Puppy for ARM computers and Smartphones would be cool.

What I long for most though is some easy way to place most applications on the HDD outside of pupsave and that one click on icons on the desktop to start such applications so they can be reused when one test other distros or versions of Puppy.
I know one can do that manually but would be cool if the start up script did it automatically.

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 11:02    Post subject:  

More things I forgot to mention in my Puppy 6.x+ wishlist: only free software (no Flash, no non-free drivers in the ISO), online documentation and Nouveau with KMS enabled.
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 12:15    Post subject:  

pupluser wrote:
hi hope i`m not driving any one nuts about thisone but i wish puppy would come with more 3G modem support including the newest wvdial

thanks


It would be nice if there was a .pet that had the "mondo huge modem driver bundle" -- or perhaps better yet, a mondo-modem .pet that looked at your hardware, and installed the single modem driver you needed...

Click on the .pet, and it says "Found your Mars Lander Model BR549, now installing driver". Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 13:31    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 13:44    Post subject:  

A development thread with no more than 10 pages and no more than 10 .pets!
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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 14:06    Post subject:  

DaveS wrote:
A development thread with no more than 10 pages and no more than 10 .pets!
you must have missed this pet Dave:)
www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62236

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PostPosted: Fri 03 Dec 2010, 14:21    Post subject:  

LOL. Need a bigger HD Smile
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