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Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
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Sky Aisling


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PostPosted: Wed 01 Dec 2010, 22:50    Post_subject:  Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
Sub_title: I want to erase MSOS completely and replace with Puppy 4.3.1 Which file system to choose?[SOLVED]
 

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I am installing Puppy 4.3.1. to an internal hard drive on a Toshiba Satellite 2805-S401 with 256mg RAM and 20 gig hdd.

Currently, a MSOS (me) resides on the drive. I want the MSOS to be erased permanently.

When I follow the install instructions provided from Puppy's desktop screen, this message is offered in GParted when I go to format the HDD:

"Regarding 'ntfs' or 'vfat' of course do not change these to ext2 or ext3 if the partition has Windows or DOS installed on it!"

But... I want to erase Windows completely, forever. Shouldn't I choose ext2 or ext3 as the file system for Puppy?

Thank you for your timely reply.

PS Yes, I want to do a install to a hard drive. See discussion:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62493

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PostPosted: Wed 01 Dec 2010, 23:03    Post_subject:  

If you're installing to the hard drive and want to boot it, you'll need
ext2 or ext3; {which has journalling and is a little more stable)

Delete the windows partition first.

A good install method for low ram computers:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=201565&search_id=1358540782#201565

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 00:01    Post_subject: Re: Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
Sub_title: I want to erase MSOS completely and replace with Puppy 4.3.1 Which file system to choose?
 

Sky Aisling wrote:
PS Yes, I want to do a install to a hard drive. See discussion:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62493


How about rcrsn51's instructions:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 00:01    Post_subject: Give Puppy enough playground  

See also Enrich 'Frugal' instead of doing full install:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 02:31    Post_subject:  

Like rjbrewer says, go for ext2 or ext3. the ext3 filesystem takes up more space but is more stable than ext2.

rj will advise you to do Full install and i will say do Frugal.

You could do a Full Install to one ext3 partition (sda1) and do a Frugal in a second ext3 partition (sda2), with Grub giving you the choice of which to use at Bootup.

Then you can run both types of install for a while and see which one works best for you.

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Sky Aisling


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 13:57    Post_subject:  

OK! I'm all geared up to do this install today. I shall go study what you have suggested and see what wonders I can wrought or what rotten wonders I can achieve Smile News at 11:00...
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 14:03    Post_subject:  

Quick text edit question:
How do I make links hot in text? Is that the 'URL' tag in the upper right hand corner of the message body controls?
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 14:28    Post_subject:  

Sky Aisling wrote:
Quick text edit question:
How do I make links hot in text? Is that the 'URL' tag in the upper right hand corner of the message body controls?
Yes see here
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 14:55    Post_subject:  

Sky Aisling wrote:
OK! I'm all geared up to do this install today. I shall go study what you have suggested and see what wonders I can wrought or what rotten wonders I can achieve Smile News at 11:00...


As long as you'll be reformatting the drive, be sure to add a large-ish swap partition (at least 512MB, perhaps even 1GB, since you have 20GB to work with).

gparted works quite well for tuning.

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 15:17    Post_subject:  

I have decided to do a 'frugal' install.
I'll use rcrsn51 suggestions: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
I have also read Shinobars suggestions:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476
Shinobars says not to use Grub-configurations but to use Grub4DOSConfig


I am now attempting to figure out how to download and extract the "one-click-installer" folder that rcrsn51 suggests. I've never done this. Do I use 'Pet Packages'?

Once I get the download I know how to manipulate the file location, do copies, and so on.
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 15:22    Post_subject: Re: Installing Puppy - Which file system to use? Fat32 or ext2/3
Sub_title: I want to erase MSOS completely and replace with Puppy 4.3.1 Which file system to choose?
 

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Sky Aisling wrote:
PS Yes, I want to do a install to a hard drive. See discussion:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62493


How about rcrsn51's instructions:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876


And I see that Bigpup has some instructions as well:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60302

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 15:25    Post_subject:  

Sky Aisling wrote:
I have decided to do a 'frugal' install.
I'll use rcrsn51 suggestions: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876
I have also read Shinobars suggestions:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62476
Shinobars says not to use Grub-configurations but to use Grub4DOSConfig


I am now attempting to figure out how to download and extract the "one-click-installer" folder that rcrsn51 suggests. I've never done this. Do I use 'Pet Packages'?

Once I get the download I know how to manipulate the file location, do copies, and so on.


The file is a tar.gz, which puppy knows how to handle. I haven't used this, since I run a Frugal install but... you should be able to simply click on the package (I don't know if it will simply extract a script, or if it will launch the script).

The nice thing is that you want to blow away Windows, so if it doesn't work, you have no data loss and can simply try it again.

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Sky Aisling


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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 16:10    Post_subject:  

Is Puppy Package Manager the correct app to use to find 'One-Click-Installer"?
If so,
I have opened Puppy Package Manager.
There are no packages listed as 'One-Click-Installer' or 'tar.gz'.
I've looked at 'all' the categories.
Does 'One-Click-Install' go by a different name?
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 16:17    Post_subject:  

In Puppy Package Manager I did a search on 'all' categories with the file name: one-click-installer.tar.gz
The results were 'no matching package name'.

Where else do I go to find a download of one-click-installer.tar.gz ?
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PostPosted: Thu 02 Dec 2010, 16:32    Post_subject:  

Sky Aisling wrote:
In Puppy Package Manager I did a search on 'all' categories with the file name: one-click-installer.tar.gz
The results were 'no matching package name'.

Where else do I go to find a download of one-click-installer.tar.gz ?


I'm not exactly sure what you're trying. Go here, and click the download button:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=42876

Which links to this gzipped tar-ball file:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=31797

Don't try to outsmart yourself -- you shouldn't need PPM or anything else.

I just copied it to a flash drive and tried it. Clicking on the tarball shows the contents. I told it to extract the contents (which defaulted to the flash drive, where the tar.gz file was located) and it saved a folder named "install", which contains a script file named "install".

Since I don't want to install, I didn't click on it. However, you want to install, so you would click on "install".

If rcrsn51's wizardry is as good as normal, it should walk you through the process.

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