Insidious Puppy 001

For talk and support relating specifically to Puppy derivatives
Post Reply
Message
Author
tlchost
Posts: 2057
Joined: Sun 05 Aug 2007, 23:26
Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
Contact:

Frustration

#16 Post by tlchost »

I normally run Puppy on a bootable USB drive and use LiLi USB Creator
http://old.linuxliveusb.com/ With this puplet(distro) I can create a bootable USB drive....but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.

Using a LiveCD that I burned from the iso I have the following problems:

Sound....running the wizard results in;
error: modinfo could not find module snd

isapnp????
no such file detected no device found

Cups
No PDF printer installed
Add printer, detects my LaserJet1 1012 on usb port, will not print test page error /usb/lib/cups/Filter/psttopdf failed
Printer listed as idle with message that couldn;t read xreftable

Thom

User avatar
Bert
Posts: 1103
Joined: Fri 30 Jun 2006, 20:09

#17 Post by Bert »

Thanks for your great intro explaining insidious puppy!
While I'm downloading, two vital questions :) :

* What's the window manager?
* How long is your military duty? :?
[url=http://pupsearch.weebly.com/][img]http://pupsearch.weebly.com/uploads/7/4/6/4/7464374/125791.gif[/img][/url]
[url=https://startpage.com/do/search?q=host%3Awww.murga-linux.com%2F][img]http://i.imgur.com/XJ9Tqc7.png[/img][/url]

User avatar
edoc
Posts: 4729
Joined: Sun 07 Aug 2005, 20:16
Location: Southeast Georgia, USA
Contact:

#18 Post by edoc »

Just loaded the updated Insidious Puppy 001 on two laptops.

On my Panasonic Toughbook CF-29 it worked perfectly!

On the CF-28 it failed the same as before, blank display.

Luci-239 brings up the xorgwizard command prompt but just loops & when I try Vesa it also brings me to a blank screen. There is the warning about deprecated the modconfig location and the first time something about mouseconfig being set to "5".
[b]Thanks! David[/b]
[i]Home page: [/i][url]http://nevils-station.com[/url]
[i]Don't google[/i] [b]Search![/b] [url]http://duckduckgo.com[/url]
TahrPup64 & Lighthouse64-b602 & JL64-603

User avatar
upnorth
Posts: 287
Joined: Mon 11 Jan 2010, 19:32
Location: Wisconsin UTC-6 (-5 DST)
Contact:

Thanks!

#19 Post by upnorth »

Hi all:

Insidious pup is proving to be fast, stable, and light on resources. Thanks for the effort and diligence. 8)

just a minor thing here that might help with rendering .ps files:
info http://packages.debian.org/sid/libjbig2dec0
download http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/lib ... 0/download

When I tried to open the /usr/share/examples/colorcir.ps, it wouldn't display in epdfviewer. xerrs.log revealed that libjbig2dec.so.0 was missing:
/usr/bin/gs: error while loading shared libraries: libjbig2dec.so.0:

After installing the above package, the colorcir.ps displayed fine.

nooby
Posts: 10369
Joined: Sun 29 Jun 2008, 19:05
Location: SwedenEurope

#20 Post by nooby »

Thanks Edoc for this one.

"Luci-239 brings up the xorgwizard command prompt but just loops & when I try Vesa it also brings me to a blank screen. There is the warning about deprecated the modconfig location and the first time something about mouseconfig being set to "5".
"

That is what I see too but it goes away so fast that I recognized it now when you spelled it out.

But typical of me I fail to remember when I see it or at which puppy but it is rather often.

So maybe it is important.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though

User avatar
James C
Posts: 6618
Joined: Thu 26 Mar 2009, 05:12
Location: Kentucky

#21 Post by James C »

While I'm working of frugal installs on the test boxes I'm giving Insidious Puppy 001 a quick run live pfix=ram on my main Linux box.

Initial boot had working sound and no problem getting my desired 1440x900x24 resolution..........no network interface was detected though. Was able to use the Network Wizard and load the correct module so working now.


VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Even with the default nv driver...

# glxgears
406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 81.050 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.993 FPS
482 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.373 FPS
479 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.740 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 95.818 FPS
551 frames in 5.0 seconds = 110.108 FPS
588 frames in 5.0 seconds = 117.527 FPS
554 frames in 5.1 seconds = 109.346 FPS
606 frames in 5.0 seconds = 121.087 FPS
582 frames in 5.0 seconds = 116.353 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1035MB (133MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 28 Nov 2010 05:37:18 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235

--OpenGL
Vendor : Mesa Project
Renderer : Software Rasterizer
Version : 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes

Seems pretty solid so far. :)

cinclus_cinclus
Posts: 68
Joined: Sun 22 Feb 2009, 10:00

Re: Insidious Puppy 001

#22 Post by cinclus_cinclus »

Iguleder wrote:Insidious Puppy 001

Download

ISO: inpu-001.iso
devx: inpu_devx_001.sfs
MD5 sums: md5sums.txt
md5sums.txt says:

Code: Select all

ce8d6b01063df49041bb8de571abda3b  inpu_devx_001.sfs
But I always get ( 3 times downloaded):

Code: Select all

a684d1363629fc60239044ec38487020  inpu_devx_001.sfs

taca0
Posts: 123
Joined: Thu 07 May 2009, 00:57

#23 Post by taca0 »

I was using zen006 but testing this new insidious, its working great !!

How the file roller extract rar files??

How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??

User avatar
James C
Posts: 6618
Joined: Thu 26 Mar 2009, 05:12
Location: Kentucky

#24 Post by James C »

Manual frugal install of Insidious 001 on the P4 test box.Initial boot had working sound and internet as well as the correct screen resolution.Installed several pets from the Lucid repo and all are working fine.No real problems here.


VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


# glxgears
616 frames in 5.0 seconds = 123.025 FPS
713 frames in 5.0 seconds = 142.498 FPS
841 frames in 5.0 seconds = 168.130 FPS
910 frames in 5.0 seconds = 181.926 FPS
891 frames in 5.0 seconds = 178.193 FPS
902 frames in 5.0 seconds = 180.385 FPS
830 frames in 5.0 seconds = 165.845 FPS
787 frames in 5.0 seconds = 157.173 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 513MB (121MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 28 Nov 2010 11:16:26 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

User avatar
pemasu
Posts: 5474
Joined: Wed 08 Jul 2009, 12:26
Location: Finland

#25 Post by pemasu »

Tested Insidious now several reboots. Looks and works just fine.

There is problem with ppm repo update and repo visibility. Fixed problem I am sure.

Cups works with printing wirelessly to my HP1020. Previous small bugs fixed. I had same problems with acpitool -s, but after tests i got it working combining earlier acpitool-s from dpup and installing shinobars latest acpid. I also copied /etc/acpi from fluppy and installed pwireless2 to get full laptop support. Now my machine connects to net after wake up automatically.

I like the good selection of apps and little stripped down outlook. The selected apps are all working, no useless stuff.
I installed pupradio and it works with vlc fine. Lxtask, gtkhash and file-roller were good picks.

To change clock outcome, install PupClockset pet.

I think this should be locked down version and next step would be adding stuff to Insidious repo and test Lucid apps usability in Insidious because lucid guys have so many packages already collected. And also compile more apps in Insidious. I think this sid based dpup has potential to be LTS version :)

User avatar
Iguleder
Posts: 2026
Joined: Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:36
Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
Contact:

#26 Post by Iguleder »

Bert wrote:* What's the window manager?
JWM. Fullscreen works in Flash and GNOME-MPlayer.
Bert wrote:* How long is your military duty? :?
At least three years, but could be 4.5 years, 5.5 years or all my life :wink:
tlchost wrote:but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.
This needs investigation. Is it a slow USB 1.1 device?
tlchost wrote:error: modinfo could not find module snd
It's compiled into the kernel to make it boot faster.
tlchost wrote:isapnp????
no such file detected no device found
Insidious doesn't have this this included.
tlchost wrote:Cups
No PDF printer installed
Yes, use "print to file" instead.
taca0 wrote:How the file roller extract rar files??
Install unrar from the Debian repos.
taca0 wrote:How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??
I remember someone wrote a guide for this that involves editing of some packages but I didn't do this for obvious reasons :wink:
cinclus_cinclus wrote:But I always get ( 3 times downloaded):
Wow, you're right. I uploaded a new md5sums.txt. Thank you.
upnorth wrote:When I tried to open the /usr/share/examples/colorcir.ps, it wouldn't display in epdfviewer. xerrs.log revealed that libjbig2dec.so.0 was missing:
Thank you, fixed.

I think I might upload a "001.1" real soon, to fix PPM and this CUPS issue.

I also had an idea in mind - the "Packages-debian-*" files in /root/.packages consume 7.9 MB uncompressed, they're simply huge! Maybe I can build the ISO without those and without the "Packages-puppy-*" files.
[url=http://dimakrasner.com/]My homepage[/url]
[url=https://github.com/dimkr]My GitHub profile[/url]

tubby
Posts: 317
Joined: Sat 24 Jan 2009, 15:49

#27 Post by tubby »

Did a manual frugal install edited menu.lst and rebooted.
The distro booted very fast without a problem, initial screens worked ok but i noticed that the text was displayed in a higher resolution than i chose?, when desktop appeared it was the resolution i chose.
So far this is distro is looking to be a very stable and useable, will do a full install later and try to compile a few apps.
Good Work Iguleder, and i hope your army tour will not be to stressful.

User avatar
Bert
Posts: 1103
Joined: Fri 30 Jun 2006, 20:09

#28 Post by Bert »

taca0 wrote:I
How I change clock to not military and add am or pm??
tacao, there's a very nice pet made by radky, that lets you choose the time and date format.
See this thread.

If you want to do it manually, the "set 1" ( %l:%M %p ) in radky's post is the right parameter for 12h.am/pm.
It has to be pasted in /root/.jwmtray on the minixcal line near the end of the file. Replace "%H:%M" with it.
Last edited by Bert on Mon 29 Nov 2010, 10:50, edited 1 time in total.
[url=http://pupsearch.weebly.com/][img]http://pupsearch.weebly.com/uploads/7/4/6/4/7464374/125791.gif[/img][/url]
[url=https://startpage.com/do/search?q=host%3Awww.murga-linux.com%2F][img]http://i.imgur.com/XJ9Tqc7.png[/img][/url]

tlchost
Posts: 2057
Joined: Sun 05 Aug 2007, 23:26
Location: Baltimore, Maryland USA
Contact:

#29 Post by tlchost »

Iguleder wrote:
tlchost wrote:but when it boots it take forever trying to find the save file(which of course is not there on the firt boot) and then times out.
This needs investigation. Is it a slow USB 1.1 device?
No....and Quirkyy1.4 has the same problem.
tlchost wrote:error: modinfo could not find module snd
It's compiled into the kernel to make it boot faster.
So what good is a faster boot if it can not detect/use the onboard audio?
tlchost wrote:isapnp????
no such file detected no device found
Insidious doesn't have this this included.
Quirky 1.4 also suffers the same problem.

So if the distro won't detect the onboard sound chip...what do you suggest?
tlchost wrote:Cups
No PDF printer installed
Yes, use "print to file" instead.
If the sound problem didn;t exist, I'd be happy to test print to file.

User avatar
Iguleder
Posts: 2026
Joined: Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:36
Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
Contact:

#30 Post by Iguleder »

tclhost wrote:So what good is a faster boot if it can not detect/use the onboard audio?
I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with the "snd" module. Maybe it's just a driver that both 2.6.31.14 and 2.6.32.26 lack.

Just check what driver you need from a Puppy that does have sound working. That's the first step - identify the driver.
[url=http://dimakrasner.com/]My homepage[/url]
[url=https://github.com/dimkr]My GitHub profile[/url]

Sylvander
Posts: 4416
Joined: Mon 15 Dec 2008, 11:06
Location: West Lothian, Scotland, UK

#31 Post by Sylvander »

Was able to boot this, make the configuration choices, get to the desktop.
I'd previously copied the SFS file to an ext3 partition filling a 1GB Flash Drive.
It looked good.
Rebooted, and as it shut-down, made a 512MB pupsave file beside the SFS file.
At reboot the pupsave wasn't seen.
After a couple of tries to produce a fix, I gave up and deleted everything.

I already have Dpup-010 working, but wanted to see if Inpu is better or not.

User avatar
Iguleder
Posts: 2026
Joined: Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:36
Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
Contact:

#32 Post by Iguleder »

This could be related to the latest Woof ... can you reproduce this behavior with Luci 240 or Quirky 1.4?
[url=http://dimakrasner.com/]My homepage[/url]
[url=https://github.com/dimkr]My GitHub profile[/url]

User avatar
Bert
Posts: 1103
Joined: Fri 30 Jun 2006, 20:09

#33 Post by Bert »

Iguleder wrote:Bert wrote:
* How long is your military duty?

At least three years, but could be 4.5 years, 5.5 years or all my life
Terrible! The army should provide you with a nice little cabin on the beach, with a shady tree, a coffee machine, and a laptop. Someone should explain to them that Iguleder coding for Puppy and Debian would contribute more to national security than you having to carry guns.
( You could even add a sign to the cabin's door "Cave canem", Latin for "Watch out, insidious dog inside :lol: )
[url=http://pupsearch.weebly.com/][img]http://pupsearch.weebly.com/uploads/7/4/6/4/7464374/125791.gif[/img][/url]
[url=https://startpage.com/do/search?q=host%3Awww.murga-linux.com%2F][img]http://i.imgur.com/XJ9Tqc7.png[/img][/url]

tubby
Posts: 317
Joined: Sat 24 Jan 2009, 15:49

#34 Post by tubby »

Iceape seems to be missing a library.
Check your errs.log in /tmp to see if it shows as missing after opening Iceape,if so install from link below.

http://packages.debian.org/sid/libs/libthai0

User avatar
Iguleder
Posts: 2026
Joined: Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:36
Location: Israel, somewhere in the beautiful desert
Contact:

#35 Post by Iguleder »

It seems Pango wants libthai, fixed. Thank you. :)
[url=http://dimakrasner.com/]My homepage[/url]
[url=https://github.com/dimkr]My GitHub profile[/url]

Post Reply