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Unable to connect to network Lan with Aspire one (Solved)
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 21:45
by kent41
The problem seems to be puppy does not see the Lan.
It sees a wireless connection but no ethernet Lan.
I have tried to load random Drivers but no go.
I also have been unable to determine what kind of lan hardware it has. I have run hardinfo but don't see a land connection. it only shows lo, wmaster0 and wlan0 but no eth0.
puppy seems to work ok except for connection to the network.
Any help on where to find what kind of hardware is used for the ethernet lan or what driver to use would be appreciated.
Thanks
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 22:14
by Béèm
Maybe there is no Ethernet device in your PC.
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 22:22
by nooby
This kind of thing happen to too often to think there is no card there.
You can try several things.
SNS that Barry have in some puppies does work with some cards where the other fails.
And Luci-237 often are able to get a connection when other fails.
I would try to do many frugal installs of different puppies say three different depending on what hardware it is.
So don't give up. Us the wellminded search to see if others have had same problem and found solutions for it.
Puppeee maybe work but test luci-247 too.
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 22:34
by kent41
Béèm wrote:Maybe there is no Ethernet device in your PC.
Beem
thanks - I'm used M$W that came with the netbook and I could get on the network.
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 22:48
by kent41
Béèm wrote:Maybe there is no Ethernet device in your PC.
Beem
i'm using the netbook but booted with M$W and I can make this post.
I think NOOBY may be right I may need to try other puppys but I like 4.3.1
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 22:56
by Béèm
Isn't there a little switch to activate the Ethernet port?
Or is this only for the WiFi device?
When you connect the Ethernet port to the port of the router/modem, normally at each side of the cable a little green light is burning to indicate the connection is made physically. Do you have this?
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 23:04
by kent41
Béèm wrote:Isn't there a little switch to activate the Ethernet port?
Or is this only for the WiFi device?
When you connect the Ethernet port to the port of the router/modem, normally at each side of the cable a little green light is burning to indicate the connection is made physically. Do you have this?
No light this is a very cheap netbook. but I'm currently using it for this post.
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 23:20
by Béèm
You didn't reply to all the questions.
Posted: Sun 14 Nov 2010, 23:34
by kent41
Béèm wrote:You didn't reply to all the questions.
Beem
If there is a switch I don't see it, there is a small empty square hole next to the RJ 45 but no lights.
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 00:10
by Béèm
Sorry, I was mixing two similar problems raised.
You did reply all questions.
So to repeat, you can connect with Windows through the cabled connection.
Please execute in a terminal/console lspci and post the result here.
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 00:31
by kent41
Béèm wrote:Sorry, I was mixing two similar problems raised.
You did reply all questions.
So to repeat, you can connect with Windows through the cabled connection.
Please execute in a terminal/console lspci and post the result here.
Yes I can connect using windows.
edit: I'm sorry This is from my Laptop.
I will try to get one from the netbook.
sorry
00:00.0 Class 0600: 1002:5950 (rev 10)
00:01.0 Class 0604: 1002:5a3f
00:04.0 Class 0604: 1002:5a36
00:05.0 Class 0604: 1002:5a37
00:12.0 Class 0101: 1002:4379 (rev 80)
00:13.0 Class 0c03: 1002:4374 (rev 80)
00:13.1 Class 0c03: 1002:4375 (rev 80)
00:13.2 Class 0c03: 1002:4373 (rev 80)
00:14.0 Class 0c05: 1002:4372 (rev 83)
00:14.1 Class 0101: 1002:4376 (rev 80)
00:14.2 Class 0403: 1002:437b (rev 01)
00:14.3 Class 0601: 1002:4377 (rev 80)
00:14.4 Class 0604: 1002:4371 (rev 80)
00:18.0 Class 0600: 1022:1100
00:18.1 Class 0600: 1022:1101
00:18.2 Class 0600: 1022:1102
00:18.3 Class 0600: 1022:1103
01:05.0 Class 0300: 1002:5975
06:01.0 Class 0200: 10ec:8139 (rev 10)
06:02.0 Class 0200: 168c:001a (rev 01)
06:04.0 Class 0607: 1524:1412 (rev 10)
06:04.1 Class 0501: 1524:0530 (rev 01)
06:04.2 Class 0805: 1524:0550 (rev 01)
06:04.3 Class 0501: 1524:0520 (rev 01)
06:04.4 Class 0501: 1524:0551 (rev 01)
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 00:58
by Béèm
This is not helpful. Forgot you have 4.3.1
Try lspci -b
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 01:18
by kent41
Béèm wrote:This is not helpful. Forgot you have 4.3.1
Try lspci -b
lspci -b does not show much.
I going to log off and try to download another copy of 4.3.1
Thanks for the help
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 03:03
by jemimah
A lot of new drivers have come out since 4.3.1. I recommending trying something newer, like LuPu, Fluppy, or Wary (with a newer kernel).
Then you can at least find out what driver you need and try getting it working on 4.3.1 if you want.
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 06:47
by kent41
I was thinking I should see the ethernet hardware listed in hardware information list.
Also when I look in the message log the ethernet hardware does not show up. However the Wifi hardware does show up.
You would think the Lan hardware would be easy to locate.
I know the hardware is present because I can use M$W with the hard drive and access the network.
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 10:42
by nooby
Sometimes the software shut down the lan card so it fail to be seen by next OS.
I have that phenomena on my Acer D250 and sometimes even the Wifi is not seen.
To repair this I've found on the internet that if one take out battery and the power plug and let the computer to rest for some 5 minutes and more and then start it again then the OS see both LAN and Wifi card.
But on Acer Quirky and Wary and Murky has problems while Puppeee and Fluppy works better and Luci works too.
So instead of only concentrating on Puppy 431 I would test as I suggest and see what happens.
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 14:39
by tempestuous
kent41 wrote:06:01.0 Class 0200: 10ec:8139 (rev 10)
Well your ethernet device is definitely listed - 10ec:8139 is the Realtek RTL8139 chip. That's a fairly standard device.
First check your bios. Sometimes there's a wifi/bluetooth enable function, and maybe there's something relating to LAN-enable?
Also some of these netbooks have an internal dialup modem as an option. If you see some reference in bios to a modem, disable it.
If no success, I suspect a hardware resource allocation problem, which has been a common problem in the past with Intel-based motherboards and onboard/miniPCI devices.
This can sometimes be solved by booting Puppy with the "irqpoll routeirq" boot parameters. If you're booting from CD, once you get to the main boot prompt, type this
then press Enter.
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 14:55
by kent41
tempestuous wrote:kent41 wrote:06:01.0 Class 0200: 10ec:8139 (rev 10)
Well your ethernet device is definitely listed - 10ec:8139 is the Realtek RTL8139 chip. That's a fairly standard device.
First check your bios. Sometimes there's a wifi/bluetooth enable function, and maybe there's something relating to LAN-enable?
Also some of these netbooks have an internal dialup modem as an option. If you see some reference in bios to a modem, disable it.
If no success, I suspect a hardware resource allocation problem, which has been a common problem in the past with Intel-based motherboards and onboard/miniPCI devices.
This can sometimes be solved by booting Puppy with the "irqpoll routeirq" boot parameters. If you're booting from CD, once you get to the main boot prompt, type this
then press Enter.
My display of lspci data in the previous post was wrong it
was for my laptop.
I boot from a USB thumb drive cruzer Sanisk 2 GB
This lspci data is for the workbook. sorry for the confusion.
00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:a010
00:02.0 Class 0300: 8086:a011
00:02.1 Class 0380: 8086:a012
00:1b.0 Class 0403: 8086:27d8 (rev 02)
00:1c.0 Class 0604: 8086:27d0 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 Class 0604: 8086:27d2 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 Class 0c03: 8086:27c8 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 Class 0c03: 8086:27c9 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 Class 0c03: 8086:27ca (rev 02)
00:1d.3 Class 0c03: 8086:27cb (rev 02)
00:1d.7 Class 0c03: 8086:27cc (rev 02)
00:1e.0 Class 0604: 8086:2448 (rev e2)
00:1f.0 Class 0601: 8086:27bc (rev 02)
00:1f.2 Class 0106: 8086:27c1 (rev 02)
00:1f.3 Class 0c05: 8086:27da (rev 02)
01:00.0 Class 0200: 1969:2060 (rev c1)
02:00.0 Class 0280: 168c:002b (rev 01)
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 18:01
by Béèm
Code: Select all
# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
02:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
02:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 81)
#
This is what you should get normally.
I can't interpret what you showed.
Now a little exercise, as I remembered that 4.3.1 didn't contain the description of these codes.
See if you have a file pci.ids in /usr/share/misc
If yes rename it to pci.ids.bak
Download the attached pci.ids.gz file
Click on it and say yes at the question.
You will get a pci.ids file.
Copy it to /usr/share/misc
Rerun the lspci command.
Posted: Mon 15 Nov 2010, 18:14
by Béèm
Béèm wrote:Code: Select all
# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to I/O Controller (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82855PM Processor to AGP Controller (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 01)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 01)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev 81)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 01)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
02:00.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller
02:02.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
02:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB21 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB PRO/100 VE (MOB) Ethernet Controller (rev 81)
#
This is what you should get normally.
I can't interpret what you showed.
Now a little exercise, as I remembered that 4.3.1 didn't contain the description of these codes.
See if you have a file pci.ids in /usr/share/misc
If yes rename it to pci.ids.bak
Download the attached pci.ids.gz file
Click on it and say yes at the question.
You will get a pci.ids file.
Copy it to /usr/share/misc
Rerun the lspci command.
I saw there is a newer file.
Please download this one instead.