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Béèm


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 13:39    Post subject: Wary 096 and Trinity (KDE)  

Wary 096 doesn't work with Trinity (KDE 3.5.12)
Code:
# kstartupconfig
kdostartupconfig: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4)
kdostartupconfig: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /opt/kde3/lib/libkdefx.so.4)
#
Wary seems to have GLIBC 2.10.1
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 15:41    Post subject: Re: Wary Puppy 0.9.6 (096) feedback
Subject description: GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS breaks tablet handling
 

Setting "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true" globally from /etc/profile is dangerous - see GTK+ bug #634236. Better to make wrapper scripts for the programs that absolutely require it, and do it from there - or modify their source code, inserting setenv("GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1") or equivalent before the point where gtk_init() gets called.
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 16:35    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install of Wary 096 on my main Linux box.

On initial boot had working internet but sound was muted.Simple enough to remedy. Smile


VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 096

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

Driver used by Xorg:
nv

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+
Memory : 1034MB (114MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.09
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 07 Nov 2010 02:29:14 PM GMT-8
-Display-
Resolution : 1440x900 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : VIA8233 - VIA 8235
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 16:57    Post subject:  

My first Wary test
- First time I get 24bits colordepth with my nvidia card.
- Keyboard (NO) was set correct.
- Playing Norwegian TV via internet. I think streamformat is realmedia, and it has not worked until Puppy 5.
- The flat-grey theme is just lovely.

- Then a tiny bug report

1.)
Wary 096 contains Pburn version 3.2.8
Changelog 3.2.9
- improved calculation of Video-DVD shrinkfactor. (thanks to Country Bumkin)
- Strip special chars from CD-text information.
- HELP: {3.5} AUDIO: Warning about using RW-discs for Audio-CD.
- Bugfix: Rename item in burnlist with ` in name (thanks to don570)
- Bugfix: Burn an audio-CD fails if track names includes ` (thanks to don570)
- Bugfix: Manual edit of command fails when it contains variables. (thanks to Country Bumkin)
- Bugfix: Remove partial ripped (vobcopy) file after 'Emergency Stop'.

Things seems to settle for Pburn. Not much bugreports lately

2.)
Viewnior doesn't accept filenames with non-english chars as ÆØÅ. Puppy uses Viewnior 0.6 while 1.0 is released. I don't know if this would help us non-english humans. I install gpicview which works perfectly.

3.)
Peasyscan didn't work for my Epson 2400, while xsane does. And why isn't peasyscan and xsane in the same sub-menu-category

4.)
Geany is still not able to execute a script like it did in the old days. The solution is still simple.
Edit the file: /root/.config/geany.conf

[tools]
make_cmd=
term_cmd=/usr/bin/xterm -e bash -c

Also linewrapping could be default ON (my very humble personal opinion)

5.)
The nv-driver is slow, so the commercial driver will be needed to get the Puppy-feeling. - a pity, since it feels like bloat....Geforce 8400M GS. I first got the message that Nvidia driver was not available.....later I found it in PPM ???

6.)
Try to open a file into Nicoedit crashes the program

7.)
Edit keyboard shortcuts for JWM doesn't work. Some bugginess has been fixed for DuDE, but there is still things to improve. It is probably not the time to upgrade - close-to-rc - but the shortcut script should be looked at.....maybe rewritten.

8.)
After activating Xlock, I didn't find the way out. Esc, mouse-click, Ctrl+Alt+F1, hammering on my keyboard...... Nothing worked until I pressed power-button for a rough power-off. How is it supposed to work?

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At last 2 questions
- Why is libSDL included (I guess it's not to play burgerspace)?
- How much space (on iso) could be saved with a gtkdialog alternative for Gparted?


Thank you for Wary.
Sigmund

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:09    Post subject:  

pemasu wrote:
Has somebody uploaded working dbus sfs ?

I need it to get my outside savefile, separate folder Thunderbird working.


The Puppy Package Manager has dbus PETs. Type "dbus" in the search box -- you will also need to install 'dbus-glib'.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:13    Post subject:  

zigbert wrote:
Peasyscan didn't work for my Epson 2400, while xsane does.

Please provide some more details. Was the scanner detected? Could you do a preview?
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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:16    Post subject: Re: Wary Puppy 0.9.6 (096) feedback
Subject description: GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS breaks tablet handling
 

wjaguar wrote:
Setting "GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true" globally from /etc/profile is dangerous - see GTK+ bug #634236. Better to make wrapper scripts for the programs that absolutely require it, and do it from there - or modify their source code, inserting setenv("GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1") or equivalent before the point where gtk_init() gets called.


Wary does not have that set in /etc/profile. Well, all Woof-built puppies do not have it set.

It seems that the Lucid developer guys have modified /etc/profile, so they are the ones who need to be told.

They use Woof, but have some customisations to suit their needs. Basically, I think they have a PET package, named "zz*" that installs last in the Woof build and applies overrides/customisations.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:38    Post subject:  

zigbert wrote:

5.)
The nv-driver is slow, so the commercial driver will be needed to get the Puppy-feeling. - a pity, since it feels like bloat....Geforce 8400M GS. I first got the message that Nvidia driver was not available.....later I found it in PPM ???

-------------------------------------------------

At last 2 questions
- Why is libSDL included (I guess it's not to play burgerspace)?
- How much space (on iso) could be saved with a gtkdialog alternative for Gparted?


zigbert,
Thanks for all the feedback, I will investigate each point that you have made.

Regarding nVidia, I presume that you ran the Video Upgrade Wizard and it reported that there is no commercial PET package available for your card? But, you did find a suitable one in PPM?

...I need to check that out. Can you run this and post what is reported about the nVidia card:

# lspci -nn -m

...you should see a line with "VGA compatible controller" in it.

Regarding SDL, yeah, I thinking, should take that out, it is only in there to play the games. Oh yes, also 'ffplay', the ffmpeg cli player -- but don't need that.

A gtkdialog alternative to Gparted would save so much space!!!!
The problem with Gparted is that it is written using the gtkmm libs, which I compile linked statically. Consequently the Gparted PET package is 1MB -- so the .iso file gets increased by 1MB.

I have often thought of starting a project for a light-weight alternative to Gparted, but never got started on it.
...unless you count Pdisk (see System menu).

I wonder if BaCon would be up to it? BaCon is interesting, as it has good tools or writing GUI apps, and is a fairly simple language to learn. Wary has BaCon in the 'devx' -- I have just posted about this here:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=48901&start=45

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:46    Post subject:  

No "woof woof" at first boot!

I always like to get the "woof woof", unfortunately, rerwin's latest patches changed something that broke the sound-availability-test in /usr/sbin/delayeddrun. I know how to fix it, will do so.

Note, the problem was an issue that rerwin and I were discussing, and I should have checked the delayedrun script after applying rerwin's patch, but forgot about it.

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 18:56    Post subject:  

Regarding the theme used in Wary 096, it has been the same theme for awhile, and Wary testers are probably getting a bit bored with it.

However, it is fairly pleasant I think, so perhaps I will just stay with it for the 5.0-final. The official release after that can have a new theme.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Nov 2010, 02:58    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
zigbert wrote:
Peasyscan didn't work for my Epson 2400, while xsane does.

Please provide some more details. Was the scanner detected? Could you do a preview?
It is detected.....before I connected the scanner, I got a not-found-message, and gui didn't show up. When connected gui shows, but nothing happens when pressing the 'Scan' button.


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PostPosted: Mon 08 Nov 2010, 03:03    Post subject:  

Hi all

have been using 094 and just downloaded 096, it's looking very good. I think this is the first time my printer has worked with cups without rcrsn51 having to help Laughing (thanks for all the help rcrsn51, you are the cups wizard)

I am just confused by one thing, I have wary installed on a usb stick without a save file (I have put the setup .conf files for my system in the sfs) the icons say the usb stick is not mounted but I am getting a do not remove usb warning message. would it be safe to remove the usb stick as long as the icons say it is not mounted? as I wish to use this installation as a secure/private web browser running totaly in ram (to avoid tracking cookies and other nastys) and do not want to create a save file.

Thanks everybody for all your hard work
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Nov 2010, 03:16    Post subject:  

Barry wrote:
Regarding nVidia, I presume that you ran the Video Upgrade Wizard and it reported that there is no commercial PET package available for your card? But, you did find a suitable one in PPM?
Yes

Code:
# lspci -nn -m | grep VGA
01:00.0 "VGA compatible controller [0300]" "nVidia Corporation [10de]" "G86 [GeForce 8400M GS] [0427]" -ra1 "Acer Incorporated [ALI] [1025]" "Device [011e]"


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Regarding SDL, yeah, I thinking, should take that out, it is only in there to play the games. Oh yes, also 'ffplay', the ffmpeg cli player -- but don't need that.
If you take out ffplay, will you please offer it as a pet. It might be interesting to play with Very Happy

Quote:
A gtkdialog alternative to Gparted would save so much space!!!!
The problem with Gparted is that it is written using the gtkmm libs, which I compile linked statically. Consequently the Gparted PET package is 1MB -- so the .iso file gets increased by 1MB.
It seems that there still are projects for hungry developers......
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Nov 2010, 03:21    Post subject: wary 096  

looks good, extra fonts are great
some minor problems:
modem detection messages at boot up change screen location
no mouse cursor after restart x
Intel Atom and GMA 950
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Nov 2010, 03:43    Post subject: Re: Wary Puppy 0.9.6 (096) feedback
Subject description: GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS breaks tablet handling
 

BarryK wrote:
Wary does not have that set in /etc/profile. Well, all Woof-built puppies do not have it set.

Have you looked? Wink
I downloaded "wary-096.iso", unpacked the .sfs, and there it was. Hence the warning. And BTW, this is how it got there: http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01389
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