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Puppy Linux Windows Installer - LICK v1.3.3 released
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number77

Joined: 22 Oct 2010
Posts: 765

PostPosted: Tue 27 Nov 2018, 10:21    Post subject:  

noryb009 wrote:
number77:

1) Did you try going to Help -> "Nothing happens on reboot" button in the lick GUI? What happened when you restarted?

2) If the above doesn't work, try entering the UEFI when you reboot. In these menus, do you see a boot order selection? Does LICK show up there? If you see it, can you try booting it from there?

Problem is I don't think I am on uefi I was on bios when I installed win10. There is an entry for lickgrub.cfg on drive C:
insmod part_gpt
insmod part_msdos
insmod ntfs

set timeout=5
set default=0

insmod all_video
if loadfont /grub/fonts/unicode.pf2 ; then
set gfxmode=auto
set gfxpayload=keep
terminal_output gfxterm
fi

menuentry "Windows" {
insmod chain
search --set=root --file /EFI/Microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi
}
## end header

## start section xenialpup64-7.5-uefi
menuentry 'xenialpup64 7.5 uefi' {
search --set=root --file /xenialpup64-7.5-uefi/vmlinuz
linux /xenialpup64-7.5-uefi/vmlinuz pfix=fsck psubdir=xenialpup64-7.5-uefi
initrd /xenialpup64-7.5-uefi/initrd.gz
}

menuentry 'xenialpup64 7.5 uefi (no save file)' {
search --set=root --file /xenialpup64-7.5-uefi/vmlinuz
linux /xenialpup64-7.5-uefi/vmlinuz pfix=ram savefile=none psubdir=xenialpup64-7.5-uefi
initrd /xenialpup64-7.5-uefi/initrd.gz
}
## end section xenialpup64-7.5-uefi
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Nov 2018, 01:16    Post subject:  

1) Have you tried using "Help" -> "Nothing happens on reboot" yet?

2) Can you use this article to check if you have BIOS or UEFI? I think lick would have given an error message if you did have BIOS, so that is somewhat concerning.
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number77

Joined: 22 Oct 2010
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PostPosted: Wed 28 Nov 2018, 12:11    Post subject:  

noryb009 wrote:
1) Have you tried using "Help" -> "Nothing happens on reboot" yet?

2) Can you use this article to check if you have BIOS or UEFI? I think lick would have given an error message if you did have BIOS, so that is somewhat concerning.

1) I tried help but it said it was risky and I do not have a backup of my efi drive so did not go ahead.
2) It says it is using uefi.
I have the win10 on usb that I loaded from.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Nov 2018, 20:18    Post subject:  

1) If you reboot and go into your UEFI, find your boot order option. Do you see LICK anywhere in the list? If so, try moving that to the top and reboot.

2) Based on you having a Windows 10 boot usb, it should be fine for you to use the tool. If things go wrong, you can use your Windows 10 boot usb to restore the partition, as explained here.

3) If those don't work, open an administrator cmd and paste the output of
Code:
bcdedit /enum all
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number77

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PostPosted: Thu 29 Nov 2018, 13:44    Post subject:  

I can't get in to uefi bios options, I get as far as uefi firmware settings, restart to change uefi firmware settings, it restarts and goes into legacy bios. I have it set to legacy mode and win10 was installed legacy.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Nov 2018, 01:24    Post subject:  

Did you have a chance to try the second or third point in my last post?
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number77

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Nov 2018, 12:42    Post subject:  

noryb009 wrote:
Did you have a chance to try the second or third point in my last post?

Third point C:\WINDOWS\system32>bcdedit /enum all

Firmware Boot Manager
---------------------
identifier {fwbootmgr}
displayorder {ea14c5e3-ea55-11e8-a81f-806e6f6e6963}
{ea14c5e2-ea55-11e8-a81f-806e6f6e6963}
timeout 0

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {8a385d9a-eb17-11e8-a2f5-f9e58596ec52}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\LICK\shim.efi
description LICK Boot Loader
locale en-GB
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {39132535-e4ce-11e8-8770-b97adfa52833}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-GB
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {39132535-e4ce-11e8-8770-b97adfa52833}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

I have included the first bit that contains Lick, do you need it all.
Will send this before I try second question.
Error fixing bootloader. Could not mount the uefi partition.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Fri 30 Nov 2018, 13:36    Post subject:  

Thanks! So the boot loader is installed, and you do have a UEFI partition.

One thing you can try is to set the computer to non-legacy mode in your UEFI settings, then try looking for the boot order options in the UEFI settings.

If that continues to go to Windows, open LICK again and use file -> install/uninstall bootloader. Do this twice (once to uninstall, once to reinstall), then reboot.

If that still fails, try using the "Nothing happens on reboot" option again. The error you had suggests the UEFI drive was already mounted (or could not be mounted for some reason), so rebooting first should fix that.
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number77

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PostPosted: Sat 01 Dec 2018, 07:21    Post subject:  

noryb009 wrote:
Thanks! So the boot loader is installed, and you do have a UEFI partition.

One thing you can try is to set the computer to non-legacy mode in your UEFI settings, then try looking for the boot order options in the UEFI settings.

If that continues to go to Windows, open LICK again and use file -> install/uninstall bootloader. Do this twice (once to uninstall, once to reinstall), then reboot.

If that still fails, try using the "Nothing happens on reboot" option again. The error you had suggests the UEFI drive was already mounted (or could not be mounted for some reason), so rebooting first should fix that.

Set it to uefi mode, uninstalled iso successfully but could not remove bootloader, got error could not remove directory. There was a file in c: lickgrub.cfg that has no mention of lick, just windows. Reinstalled iso but no change.
I checked eufi boot order and windows came first so I changed it to lick but it wouldnt boot at all.
After I have removed the iso could I delete lickgrub.cfg.
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Wed 05 Dec 2018, 23:57    Post subject:  

I'm no longer sure what state your bootloader is in. Not being able to delete a directory suggests something is messed up, so it might be easier to reset everything.

To do a complete manual uninstall:

1) In an admin command prompt, run:
Code:

bcdedit /delete {8a385d9a-eb17-11e8-a2f5-f9e58596ec52}

If this command fails, run `bcdedit /enum all` again, which is the same command as you ran earlier. If you don't see LICK listed, that's fine. If you do see LICK listed, run the delete command again with that identifier.

2) Run
Code:

mountvol Z: /S
Z:

Your command prompt should then be in your UEFI drive. Be careful on this drive. Navigate to the "EFI" directory and delete the "LICK" directory inside it. Afterwards, unmount the drive by running:
Code:

mountvol Z: /D


3) Delete C:/lickgrub.cfg

4) Reboot.

After these steps, you should have LICK completely uninstalled. If you want to continue trying to get LICK working, you can then try reinstalling an ISO, running it directly from the BIOS, an if that doesn't work, use the help -> nothing happens on boot menu item.
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number77

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Dec 2018, 14:54    Post subject:  

Thanks, I will try that in the morning.
It must be something I did on my original win10 install as I had perfect lick install on two other pcs, one with win7 and one with win10 no problems at all.
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number77

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PostPosted: Sat 08 Dec 2018, 09:58    Post subject:  

That did the trick, its working fine now. Thank you for your patience.
All the best. number77.
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Donncha

Joined: 02 Oct 2011
Posts: 34

PostPosted: Sat 15 Dec 2018, 06:01    Post subject: LICK on Windows 2000  

Hi Noryb and everyone!
I'M trying to get LICK installed on an old bios PC running Windows 2000 and can't. I get this dialog:

"The procedure entry point AddVectoredExceptionHandler could not be located in kernel 32 dll"

I am not technical and don't understand. Any help gratefully received!
Don Smile
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noryb009

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PostPosted: Sun 16 Dec 2018, 15:57    Post subject:  

Hi Donncha, you need to use the command line interface on Windows 9x and 2000. Let me know if the issue occurs with the CLI as well.

Sorry about this inconvenience - I've tried to get the GUI working on the 9x family a number of different ways, but I haven't been able to find a solution that is easy to maintain.
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Donncha

Joined: 02 Oct 2011
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Dec 2018, 11:51    Post subject:  

Hi Luke: I had hoped someone would help me and am flattered it was Noryb009.
I got as far as “Enter ID (LICK=1.3.1-win32):” and then had no idea what the ID was! Can you help again please? I have no Admin or User password set on the W2K machine if that was what it wanted.
I am have been working around computers for 60 years, yes since IBM 1958, but am deplorably ignorant and being dyslexic have left programming/coding to my wife and others but do cut and paste if told to do so.
I am also incredibly old and waiting for my telegram from the queen - does she send to folk in Canada too?! Laughing
BTW I have been using LICK on both XP and Win10 and think it is brilliant program that deserves a gold medal. I set up W2K on the ex-XP machine as i have a few apps that only work on windows but my idea is to only use it online with XenialPup and your LICK allows me the flexability to try others painlessly. I would be sad to find it wont work on W2K! You are too young to know this but it was the best that MS ever made!!
Regards Don
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