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Jades

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PostPosted: Mon 29 Nov 2010, 15:27    Post subject: Re: en_GB and UTF-8  
shinobar wrote:
Jades wrote:
IIRC that (en) uses US English spelling. Interestingly, when my machine is set to en_GB the option for en_US isn't listed in Personalize Settings.

If you select 'en English' from the pulldown at the 1st dialog, the 2nd dialog appears and you can select en_US,en_GB, en_AU, and etc.


So it does - I didn't actually think of checking that option so just typed en_GB to see what happened. I can confirm that selecting 'en' from the first menu and then 'en_GB' from the additional window does have the desired effect.

shinobar wrote:
You can also enable UTF-8 encoding with marking on the checkbox.


I leave it switched off myself, and use good old fashioned iso-8859-1 (Western European) on my websites. Main reason why I do it is backwards-compatibility.

shinobar wrote:
Regarding the UTF-8 encoding, it is an option for English.
For French is the same, but associated '(Reccomended)'.
If you select Russian, there are no option, but forced UTF-8 encoding.
I am not sure these rules are proper. Give me your advice --> @ to all the readers


The most obvious reason for it not being mandatory for en_GB is that is probably that special characters are rarely used in that language and any that may turn up are covered by iso-8859-1 Western European. Similar reasoning probably goes for most French use. I'm not sure which character set is most common in the USA and Canada but it probably wouldn't cover all of the special characters in other encodings.

Regarding Russian, there is iso-8859-5 for Cyrillic alphabet but presumably UTF-8 is considered to be a better choice.

The Wikipedia article on UTF-8 may be of use. In general, it seems that the key reason why it's recommended is that it has all of the various special characters in it rather than a subset as with the older iso character encodings.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Dec 2010, 10:43    Post subject: firstrun-1.4
Subject description: with rc.country, supports '*.UTF-8' for the locale name		  
firstrun-1.4.pet is released.
May work on any Puppy-4.2x/5.x. Not tested on Puppy 4.1x and older.
Included the new the script /etc/rc.d/rc.country, supports '*.UTF-8' for the locale name.
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don570


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PostPosted: Mon 06 Dec 2010, 16:17    Post subject: worked well in luci 241  
I tested 'firstrun' in luci241 over the weekend and it works
perfectly changing languages and keyboard layouts.

I have one small suggestion...

When choosing the English language it can be easy to
overlook the many versions of English that are available.
So I have a small change that might help new users to look
at the list of language variants.


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Stripe

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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec 2010, 20:55    Post subject:  
Hi shinobar

I am in the process of adding firstrun 1.4 to a version of spup051 (that is already loading and running totaly in ram from a usb stick without a save file)

I have added all the firstrun files (in the right directorys) to the sfs except pinstall.sh and puninstall.sh, and it seems to be working great. I just dont know how to stop the kernel from asking for options to be set, so it boots straight to the desktop. Do you have any ideas?

with the current version to boot straight to the desktop I am initially creating a save file and copying the relevant config files from the save file to the sfs, but this is making the program only work on certain hardware.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec 2010, 21:31    Post subject: straight to the desktop  
Stripe wrote:
with the current version to boot straight to the desktop I am initially creating a save file and copying the relevant config files from the save file to the sfs, but this is making the program only work on certain hardware.

It is a topic of Quickset Puppy:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51630
There i released a kit for Puppy-4.x with Xvasa. You can apply this method with copying some files from the save file which is set up with Xvesa 800x600.

For the Puppy without Xvesa, you can see an example in LupQ. You can apply the same thing if the Puppy has the X-server version 1.7.x.
Type 'Xorg -version' in a virtual terminal.

The detail shall be discussed at the Quickset Puppy topic above.
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PostPosted: Fri 10 Dec 2010, 21:48    Post subject:  
Thanks shinobar, thats brilliant Razz

the Xorg -version is 1.7.7, I will have a good look at the link

cheers and thanks again
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PostPosted: Sat 25 Dec 2010, 05:15    Post subject: firstrun v1.5  
CHANGES
v1.4 to v1.5
* Bugfix avoid *@euro.UTF-8(thanks to Béèm).
* Refined startup script: support barks, test_if_connected and pupsaveconfig.

Note@playdayz: barks, test_if_connected are moved to the startup script '/root/Startup/fullstart'. you can edit the script to customize first setup sequence.
The scripts '/usr/bin/first-run.sh' and '/usr/sbin/firstsetup' are for compatibility of various Puppy.
You can remove both as for the Lupu-515 and later.
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PostPosted: Thu 19 May 2011, 12:56    Post subject:  
Your "FirstRun", then "Personalize Settings" is a wonderful addition to any PUP that includes it. I continue to be a proponent of your Masterpiece and continue to feel that it should be inculded in every PUP.

I want to ask you to look at this as I think you may be able to help.

Thanks in advance
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