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#61 Post by playdayz »

Don't really want to run xorgwizard: kind of undoes all the work that went in to the initial start up windows! Very Happy but do want to be able to click and drag with my touchpad. Ah the dilemma.

Apart from that, all seems good. Will grab the newest java and see if I can get openoffice to play nice
I understand. I think Shinobar has proposed a fix, but I think also people figured out a fix during development of 5.1, but I can't remember.

I hope someone sees this and responds.

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#62 Post by playdayz »

Java.

Make a *symlink* from jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.

That is what worked for Firefox anyway.

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#63 Post by shinobar »

Maybe my special case:
Boot up the luci-231.iso on the virtual machine, qwmu-0.12.5, having an emulation of Cirrus Logic GD 5446 graphic tip.
It boots up directly to the graphical desktop, but falls down to the console soon.
The xerrs.log shows:

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ObRender-ERROR **: Your bit depth is currently unhandled
I got the desktop by typing 'xwin jwm' and seems no problem.
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#64 Post by shinobar »

LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.
But regarding touchpad, only 2 lines:

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< 	Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
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> 	Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\
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< 	Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
---
> 	Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\
As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 034#447034
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xorgwizard and keyboard

#65 Post by shinobar »

shinobar wrote:LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.
I realize that the current xorgwizard from the woof corrupts the keyboard model set by the first-run.sh.
I recommend to replace the xorgwizard with the one of the LupQ-511.

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# 11aug10 shinobar: use keymap-set, tapping enabled for Synaptics Mouse
# 24aug10 shinobar: i18n only main dialog
#100902 fix switching between choosing 'intel' and 'i810' drivers.
NOTE: 100902 is Barry's fix in the recent woof
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Re: xorgwizard and touchpad

#66 Post by darwinev0lved »

shinobar wrote:LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.
But regarding touchpad, only 2 lines:

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1389c1405
< 	Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
---
> 	Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\
1436c1452
< 	Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
---
> 	Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\
As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 034#447034
Just to confirm, Shinobar's pet fix works just dandy on a fresh frugal install. May I second his proposal!

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#67 Post by darwinev0lved »

playdayz wrote:Java.

Make a *symlink* from jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.

That is what worked for Firefox anyway.
Hi thanks - I've done that one so often it's happening in my sleep.
Anyway - the latest java 6_022 is doing what I need it to be doing.
One thing though: the openoffice.pet really, really doesn't install right. It is possible to extract the files and put them in the right (/mnt/home) directories but it doesn't do it correctly at the moment and completely borks the save file. I mentioned this ages ago, but it still hasn't been fixed.

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#68 Post by playdayz »

One thing though: the openoffice.pet really, really doesn't install right. It is possible to extract the files and put them in the right (/mnt/home) directories but it doesn't do it correctly at the moment and completely borks the save file. I mentioned this ages ago, but it still hasn't been fixed.
We never have really made an "official" Lucid openoffice pet--but we will this time because we are planning an easy one-click way to install sfs's.

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#69 Post by playdayz »

shinobar wrote:
LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.

I realize that the current xorgwizard from the woof corrupts the keyboard model set by the first-run.sh.
I recommend to replace the xorgwizard with the one of the LupQ-511.
Code:
# 11aug10 shinobar: use keymap-set, tapping enabled for Synaptics Mouse
# 24aug10 shinobar: i18n only main dialog
#100902 fix switching between choosing 'intel' and 'i810' drivers.

NOTE: 100902 is Barry's fix in the recent woof
In general I want us to adapt to Barry's Woof files, rather than changing them. Therefore, the way we change the keyboard should be compatible with the current version of Woof.

But wouldn't this only come into effect if someone used xorgwizard to select a Keyboard layout and then tried to use the first-run dialog to change that layout. Couldn't we allow for that so no corruption took place.
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#70 Post by playdayz »

As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 034#447034
This should be in PPM then?

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The two buttons Apply and OK confuses me. I think Apply and Close would make more sense. And make them the same size. But one button Apply might be enough, because the current version posts a message "Nothing was Changed" if nothing was changed and th program ends.

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#71 Post by darwinev0lved »

playdayz wrote:
As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 034#447034
This should be in PPM then?
Well, I was sort of suggesting that whatever fix the pet fixes, should just be part of Puppy. Don't think it's a good idea that you have to apply a pet just to get the touchpad working (and yes, I know I could just edit Xorg, or run Xorgwizard - but given we're trying to make this as user friendly a Puppy as poss. they're bottom of the heap of options). It's not exactly in the same league as downloading a driver for your graphics card. :)

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xorgwizard and keyboard

#72 Post by shinobar »

playdayz wrote:But wouldn't this only come into effect if someone used xorgwizard to select a Keyboard layout and then tried to use the first-run dialog to change that layout.
In exact, not right.
You can decide what to do. Next is an information what occurs.

The problem occurs maybe only for jp106(Japanese) and br(Brazilian).
Japanese anyway do not use native Lupu because it does not have Japanese font. So i take Brazilian as an example.

Running Lupu first time and select 'br' keyboard with the first-run dialog, it works with 'br' keyboard layout and 'abnt2' keyboard model.
Then he run xorgwizard, for example the Nvidia driver requires, the xorgwizard keeps 'br' keyboard layout, but 'pc102' model.
As the result, some keys do not work.

Of course he can edit the xorg.conf by hand and restart X.
To correct the keyboard model with GUI needs many steps.
The fastest way to recover maybe to type from the virtual terminal:

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keymap-set --load
NOTE: the keymap-set is contained only in luci-231 and (maybe) later.
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#73 Post by shinobar »

Regarding touchpad, well known what happens:
At the first run, the touchpad works.
Running xorgwizard disables the touchpad.
Flsynclient can recover, but it shows error before running xorgwizard. It cause confusion for the users.

The fault of the xorgwizard regarding the touchpad is 2 lines.
Curiously, 1 of 3 types of touchpad is enabled.

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# grep MaxTapTime /usr/sbin/xorgwizard
        Option "MaxTapTime" "180"\
	Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
	Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
The first one is Elantech touchpads, code add by Jemimah.
But old two, Synaptics and Alps are remained disabled.

Japanese team are aware of this situation from years ago and all enabled in the Japanese editions.
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Re: xorgwizard and touchpad

#74 Post by jpeps »

shinobar wrote:Regarding touchpad, well known what happens:
At the first run, the touchpad works.
Running xorgwizard disables the touchpad.

But old two, Synaptics and Alps are remained disabled.

Japanese team are aware of this situation from years ago and all enabled in the Japanese editions.
That would be a blessing :) , but I have to disable my Synaptics touchpad from the bios.

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Re: xorgwizard and touchpad

#75 Post by shinobar »

jpeps wrote: but I have to disable my Synaptics touchpad from the bios.
Do you mean you like to disable the touchpad?
Flsynclient and the synclient-wrapper could not be a help?
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#76 Post by 01micko »

Quickpet 4alpha4

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Note: this is alpha software for testing and evaluation, no responsibility accepted for malfunctions, use at own risk. It is recommended you backup your pupsave or important data
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This is the long awaited [ :roll: ] generic version of quickpet. While it is designed for lupu in lupu it has undergone major reconstruction to theoretically run in any woof based puppy. At the moment only lupu, quirky and wary are supported and only the lupu version is full featured. You shouldn't notice much difference in the user interface excepting that if there is more than one particular version of a program in the official Lucid Puppy repo then you will be offered a choice in a popup menu as to which version you want. Firefox, Seamonkey and Opera are good examples to try out (I think at this stage they are the only ones).

The advantage to this is that the Benevolent Dictator (playdayz for us :wink: ) need do nothing more than upload an updated package to the official repo and reconcile the /root/.packages/Packages-puppy-*-official file by way of an update pet in the 'News' page. (In our case with lupu * = "lucid" .)

This should run ok on all lupu/luci/luma versions of lucid Puppy, though I can't guarantee the results of installing the later .pets in for example Puppy 5, but if anyone wants to try it out do so with care.

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How do I install it?

Firstly, delete /root/.quickpet (hidden folder)

Then, Download all the attached packages and install in this order:
  • quickpet_generic-4alpha4.pet
    quickpet_lupu-4alpha4.pet
    repo_update-2010-10-17.pet
The install order is important.

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Known issues
  • wine will show a bunch of programs dependent on wine
    no help for nvidia drivers as yet
TO DO
  • This will be going to it's own thread when wary/quirky/* support is up to speed.
    fix nvidia help
    add support for other video driver, intel, ATI (will need help :wink: )
Feedback please 8)

Enjoy, cheers.
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#77 Post by playdayz »

I can't wait to build a new luci-232 with 01micko's latest Quickpet. The pieces of Lupu-5.2 are falling into place one by one, thanks to some hard and creative workers.

Here is a peripheral piece of the puzzle: an sfs of OpenOffice that has been tested in luci-231. This is the first one I hope to test with the new one-click way to install sfs's, but for now you need to do it the old-fashioned way. Download it into /mnt/home and then tell Bootmanager that it is one of the sfs's to enable, and then reboot It has menu items under Documents.

And the most amazing thing is--it's fast. I know that is hard to believe given some previous versions of OpenOffice--but this is fast enough to use easily--I am really impressed.

http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/G ... -Lucid.sfs

And I hope people saw the good news yesterday, that lupu's mplayer now plays audio for 3gp and mp4 mobile phone videos. With that I think we can match it against anything in terms of quality and speed. We will post some test files with the next version.
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#78 Post by Lobster »

Feedback please
ref Quickpet

Installed Opera
Widgets
and java (java does not work - but that is the pet - not quickpet)
Larry says java is solved or updated?
I want to click and go . . . :oops:

New Quickpet seems to be working fine for me . . . 8)
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#79 Post by Lobster »

Image

Example of 3 tier menu not working
Xara is repeated
'Graphic processing' can be replaced with one of the other 3rd tier
options
then add third program
'Graphic processing' is largely redundant :oops:

Same under 'Business' in menu 8)

Has Jemimah found a simple chat program?
Looking forward to simple SFS

Glad to report that openbox based Luci-231 is my main OS
and working sufficient for day to day use
Looking forward to 232 :)

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#80 Post by James C »

01micko wrote: Feedback please 8)
New Quickpet installed with no problems.Installed Opera 10.62(nice having a choice) and a couple of other pets....no problems.

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