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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 15:57    Post_subject:  

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Don't really want to run xorgwizard: kind of undoes all the work that went in to the initial start up windows! Very Happy but do want to be able to click and drag with my touchpad. Ah the dilemma.

Apart from that, all seems good. Will grab the newest java and see if I can get openoffice to play nice


I understand. I think Shinobar has proposed a fix, but I think also people figured out a fix during development of 5.1, but I can't remember.

I hope someone sees this and responds.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 16:06    Post_subject:  

Java.

Make a *symlink* from jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.

That is what worked for Firefox anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 21:14    Post_subject: openbox failure on a virtual machine  

Maybe my special case:
Boot up the luci-231.iso on the virtual machine, qwmu-0.12.5, having an emulation of Cirrus Logic GD 5446 graphic tip.
It boots up directly to the graphical desktop, but falls down to the console soon.
The xerrs.log shows:
Code:
ObRender-ERROR **: Your bit depth is currently unhandled

I got the desktop by typing 'xwin jwm' and seems no problem.

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 21:41    Post_subject: xorgwizard and touchpad  

LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.
But regarding touchpad, only 2 lines:
Code:
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<    Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
---
>    Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\
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<    Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
---
>    Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\


As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=447034#447034

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PostPosted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 21:48    Post_subject: xorgwizard and keyboard  

shinobar wrote:
LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.

I realize that the current xorgwizard from the woof corrupts the keyboard model set by the first-run.sh.
I recommend to replace the xorgwizard with the one of the LupQ-511.
Code:
# 11aug10 shinobar: use keymap-set, tapping enabled for Synaptics Mouse
# 24aug10 shinobar: i18n only main dialog
#100902 fix switching between choosing 'intel' and 'i810' drivers.

NOTE: 100902 is Barry's fix in the recent woof

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 07:17    Post_subject: Re: xorgwizard and touchpad  

shinobar wrote:
LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.
But regarding touchpad, only 2 lines:
Code:
1389c1405
<    Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
---
>    Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\
1436c1452
<    Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
---
>    Option "MaxTapTime" "220"\


As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=447034#447034


Just to confirm, Shinobar's pet fix works just dandy on a fresh frugal install. May I second his proposal!
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 08:02    Post_subject:  

playdayz wrote:
Java.

Make a *symlink* from jre/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins.

That is what worked for Firefox anyway.


Hi thanks - I've done that one so often it's happening in my sleep.
Anyway - the latest java 6_022 is doing what I need it to be doing.
One thing though: the openoffice.pet really, really doesn't install right. It is possible to extract the files and put them in the right (/mnt/home) directories but it doesn't do it correctly at the moment and completely borks the save file. I mentioned this ages ago, but it still hasn't been fixed.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:16    Post_subject:  

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One thing though: the openoffice.pet really, really doesn't install right. It is possible to extract the files and put them in the right (/mnt/home) directories but it doesn't do it correctly at the moment and completely borks the save file. I mentioned this ages ago, but it still hasn't been fixed.


We never have really made an "official" Lucid openoffice pet--but we will this time because we are planning an easy one-click way to install sfs's.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:19    Post_subject:  

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shinobar wrote:
LupQ has different xorgwizard, I18n'ed, handles 'XkbModel' and 'XkbVariant', etc.

I realize that the current xorgwizard from the woof corrupts the keyboard model set by the first-run.sh.
I recommend to replace the xorgwizard with the one of the LupQ-511.
Code:
# 11aug10 shinobar: use keymap-set, tapping enabled for Synaptics Mouse
# 24aug10 shinobar: i18n only main dialog
#100902 fix switching between choosing 'intel' and 'i810' drivers.

NOTE: 100902 is Barry's fix in the recent woof


In general I want us to adapt to Barry's Woof files, rather than changing them. Therefore, the way we change the keyboard should be compatible with the current version of Woof.

But wouldn't this only come into effect if someone used xorgwizard to select a Keyboard layout and then tried to use the first-run dialog to change that layout. Couldn't we allow for that so no corruption took place.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 13:30    Post_subject:  

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As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=447034#447034


This should be in PPM then?

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The two buttons Apply and OK confuses me. I think Apply and Close would make more sense. And make them the same size. But one button Apply might be enough, because the current version posts a message "Nothing was Changed" if nothing was changed and th program ends.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:08    Post_subject:  

playdayz wrote:
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As for the Flsynclient at the first desktop, I proposed synclient-wrapper-20101001.pet:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=447034#447034


This should be in PPM then?


Well, I was sort of suggesting that whatever fix the pet fixes, should just be part of Puppy. Don't think it's a good idea that you have to apply a pet just to get the touchpad working (and yes, I know I could just edit Xorg, or run Xorgwizard - but given we're trying to make this as user friendly a Puppy as poss. they're bottom of the heap of options). It's not exactly in the same league as downloading a driver for your graphics card. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:15    Post_subject: xorgwizard and keyboard  

playdayz wrote:
But wouldn't this only come into effect if someone used xorgwizard to select a Keyboard layout and then tried to use the first-run dialog to change that layout.

In exact, not right.
You can decide what to do. Next is an information what occurs.

The problem occurs maybe only for jp106(Japanese) and br(Brazilian).
Japanese anyway do not use native Lupu because it does not have Japanese font. So i take Brazilian as an example.

Running Lupu first time and select 'br' keyboard with the first-run dialog, it works with 'br' keyboard layout and 'abnt2' keyboard model.
Then he run xorgwizard, for example the Nvidia driver requires, the xorgwizard keeps 'br' keyboard layout, but 'pc102' model.
As the result, some keys do not work.

Of course he can edit the xorg.conf by hand and restart X.
To correct the keyboard model with GUI needs many steps.
The fastest way to recover maybe to type from the virtual terminal:
Code:
keymap-set --load

NOTE: the keymap-set is contained only in luci-231 and (maybe) later.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 18:39    Post_subject: xorgwizard and touchpad  

Regarding touchpad, well known what happens:
At the first run, the touchpad works.
Running xorgwizard disables the touchpad.
Flsynclient can recover, but it shows error before running xorgwizard. It cause confusion for the users.

The fault of the xorgwizard regarding the touchpad is 2 lines.
Curiously, 1 of 3 types of touchpad is enabled.
Code:
# grep MaxTapTime /usr/sbin/xorgwizard
        Option "MaxTapTime" "180"\
   Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\
   Option "MaxTapTime" "0"\

The first one is Elantech touchpads, code add by Jemimah.
But old two, Synaptics and Alps are remained disabled.

Japanese team are aware of this situation from years ago and all enabled in the Japanese editions.

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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 19:11    Post_subject: Re: xorgwizard and touchpad  

shinobar wrote:
Regarding touchpad, well known what happens:
At the first run, the touchpad works.
Running xorgwizard disables the touchpad.

But old two, Synaptics and Alps are remained disabled.

Japanese team are aware of this situation from years ago and all enabled in the Japanese editions.


That would be a blessing Smile , but I have to disable my Synaptics touchpad from the bios.
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PostPosted: Sat 16 Oct 2010, 22:04    Post_subject: Re: xorgwizard and touchpad  

jpeps wrote:
but I have to disable my Synaptics touchpad from the bios.

Do you mean you like to disable the touchpad?
Flsynclient and the synclient-wrapper could not be a help?

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