Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18
One small note since micko asked for anything trivial. On luci 234 after installing IceWM from the PPM the description in the menu of the WMSwitcher reverted back saying switch between JWM and IceWM.
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Hi smil99 and those concerned
I think it is best to start cairo-dock in /root/Startup.. I use an nvidia and it needs 'cairo-dock -c' not -o option, else I don't get transparency. I guess if we do a test for xorg_high being installed (maybe grep it from /root/.packages/user-installed-packages) then we can set the option to -o if that condidtion is true or -c for nvidias (and hopefully one day radeons ). This will facilitate cairo-dock being an optional extra . (man my machine is beginning to look like a mac... but with so much more control!)
I think Shino you are correct, I think we can test enough conditions to switch wms without 2 xintrc files, it is faster and should work ok... as long as we know what wm we are running then we can choose to load or not load compiz accordingly. IMO it is always simpler to have the one file, too much shifting of files can lead to breakdowns, especially on slower machines.
I think I'll make one big package.. it will have xfce, compiz, python etc.... cairo-dock can be extra with the startup file. Of course I'll make an adjusted standalone package of xfce. I need to adjust wm-switcher too. I will make a separate xinitrc once I figure it all out. This should be able to handle anything, including those who don't want compiz, lets face it, compiz is only eye candy and should not be forced on anyone.. though it is fun!
Cheers
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ah thanks for that sinc, that was one i did need to know
Later...
I have knocked together a /root/.xinitrc file that seems to do the job and do it well, the only fault is that in xfce there is an error message that the rox pinboard didn't load, a minor annoyance for now since xfce4 doesn't use the rox pinboard.. so the behaviour is desired but the message is not! I have tested going from jwm to openbox/fbpanel to xfce and there is code in place to take care of icewm and fluxbox.. we are dumping lxde. (from official support anyways )
I'll attach as a tarball, those interested just backup your old /root/.xinitrc and replace with this one.. I want to hear from folks that haven't even got xfce installed but may have icewm or fluxbox. Try it too if you installed smil99's compiz (be careful to follow his instructions and be aware that cairo-dock is optional.. ahem you won't need to edit the xinitrc if you use this one)
I think it is best to start cairo-dock in /root/Startup.. I use an nvidia and it needs 'cairo-dock -c' not -o option, else I don't get transparency. I guess if we do a test for xorg_high being installed (maybe grep it from /root/.packages/user-installed-packages) then we can set the option to -o if that condidtion is true or -c for nvidias (and hopefully one day radeons ). This will facilitate cairo-dock being an optional extra . (man my machine is beginning to look like a mac... but with so much more control!)
I think Shino you are correct, I think we can test enough conditions to switch wms without 2 xintrc files, it is faster and should work ok... as long as we know what wm we are running then we can choose to load or not load compiz accordingly. IMO it is always simpler to have the one file, too much shifting of files can lead to breakdowns, especially on slower machines.
I think I'll make one big package.. it will have xfce, compiz, python etc.... cairo-dock can be extra with the startup file. Of course I'll make an adjusted standalone package of xfce. I need to adjust wm-switcher too. I will make a separate xinitrc once I figure it all out. This should be able to handle anything, including those who don't want compiz, lets face it, compiz is only eye candy and should not be forced on anyone.. though it is fun!
Cheers
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ah thanks for that sinc, that was one i did need to know
_________________On luci 234 after installing IceWM from the PPM the description in the menu of the WMSwitcher reverted back saying switch between JWM and IceWM.
Later...
I have knocked together a /root/.xinitrc file that seems to do the job and do it well, the only fault is that in xfce there is an error message that the rox pinboard didn't load, a minor annoyance for now since xfce4 doesn't use the rox pinboard.. so the behaviour is desired but the message is not! I have tested going from jwm to openbox/fbpanel to xfce and there is code in place to take care of icewm and fluxbox.. we are dumping lxde. (from official support anyways )
I'll attach as a tarball, those interested just backup your old /root/.xinitrc and replace with this one.. I want to hear from folks that haven't even got xfce installed but may have icewm or fluxbox. Try it too if you installed smil99's compiz (be careful to follow his instructions and be aware that cairo-dock is optional.. ahem you won't need to edit the xinitrc if you use this one)
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In luci-234
wiki updated http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy52
Not sure what the background experiments being done are?
I changed to JWM which is faster
and kept finding my background wallpaper
choice was changing to the previous selection.
Hopefully this will settle down
Firewall icon in traybar. Nice. Obvious. Works.
Initial setup wizard from Shinobar. Works, obvious Job very well done.
Chat to pidgin not quite there. I click on pidgin and it asks me to
select from a list of servers. I am meant to select Freenode
and go to #puppylinux.
Before I just clicked on chat . . .
OK downloaded Xchat with Quickpet - same problem, it wants to
know settings most new Puppys will not know . . .
SFS seemed to instal K-Office - oh yeah baby
Regarding Compiz: I know it is eye candy. I know it
serves no purpose but
I WANT CANDY. I need Compiz. Gimmee the candy . . .
[restraints are now in place]
I downloaded Seamonkey twice
The first time it did not take (OK I may have had two petgets open and downloading an SFS simultaneously but even so . . .]
xorgdriver check done
google map done
transmission done
xaraLX (from ppm) done
Congratulations to Larry, coders and testers
Puppy Lucid 5.2 is becoming Puppy funnery
Happy Halloween guys
Today you can feed the trolls . . .
Puppy Linux
Awesome comes as standard
wiki updated http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy52
Not sure what the background experiments being done are?
I changed to JWM which is faster
and kept finding my background wallpaper
choice was changing to the previous selection.
Hopefully this will settle down
Firewall icon in traybar. Nice. Obvious. Works.
Initial setup wizard from Shinobar. Works, obvious Job very well done.
Chat to pidgin not quite there. I click on pidgin and it asks me to
select from a list of servers. I am meant to select Freenode
and go to #puppylinux.
Before I just clicked on chat . . .
OK downloaded Xchat with Quickpet - same problem, it wants to
know settings most new Puppys will not know . . .
SFS seemed to instal K-Office - oh yeah baby
Regarding Compiz: I know it is eye candy. I know it
serves no purpose but
I WANT CANDY. I need Compiz. Gimmee the candy . . .
[restraints are now in place]
I downloaded Seamonkey twice
The first time it did not take (OK I may have had two petgets open and downloading an SFS simultaneously but even so . . .]
xorgdriver check done
google map done
transmission done
xaraLX (from ppm) done
Congratulations to Larry, coders and testers
Puppy Lucid 5.2 is becoming Puppy funnery
Happy Halloween guys
Today you can feed the trolls . . .
Puppy Linux
Awesome comes as standard
Icewm
Nothing added, just tidied up thanks to sinc
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu520 ... -lucid.pet 955K
xfce4
Same, just tidied up a little
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu520 ... -Lucid.pet 5M
[usual usr/pswd apply ]
wmswitcher-0.8 is attached, lxde support is gone, supports Icewm, Jwm, Openbox/fbpanel, fluxbox and xfce4
Smooth transitions depend on the adjustments I made to /root/.xinitrc (above Lobby's post )
Cheers
EDIT: pet had a bug, see newer post
Nothing added, just tidied up thanks to sinc
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu520 ... -lucid.pet 955K
xfce4
Same, just tidied up a little
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu520 ... -Lucid.pet 5M
[usual usr/pswd apply ]
wmswitcher-0.8 is attached, lxde support is gone, supports Icewm, Jwm, Openbox/fbpanel, fluxbox and xfce4
Smooth transitions depend on the adjustments I made to /root/.xinitrc (above Lobby's post )
Cheers
EDIT: pet had a bug, see newer post
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Guys! Do you like the new feature?
You can disable it in wmswitcher you know
You can disable it in wmswitcher you know
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I like it, now when I noticed it Just to inform it in the thread, when eyes and very small brains dont notice it.
I can report that now my wallpapers are persistent, and between wm switches and reboots.
This version looks really good.
I am not very demanding for wm features but persistence is needed and that is founded.
For my experience simple wm and working pwidgets is all I need. For me no need for xfce or metacity or KDE or....
But to offer them for those who like them, thats what a mature distro should do.
I can report that now my wallpapers are persistent, and between wm switches and reboots.
This version looks really good.
I am not very demanding for wm features but persistence is needed and that is founded.
For my experience simple wm and working pwidgets is all I need. For me no need for xfce or metacity or KDE or....
But to offer them for those who like them, thats what a mature distro should do.
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Saluki, the combined effort: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=59496if all the puppy Linux developers got together and built a release. If we took the amount of effort that we put into our personal projects and funneled into a main release it would be tops.
You can check the whole thread how it is going.
That's goodI can report that now my wallpapers are persistent, and between wm switches and reboots.
This version looks really good.
There is a bug with icewm... are you aware that you can switch the wall to whatever you want for the four windowmanagers (apart from xfce)? It was meant as a nice surprise but I guess to some it could be a nasty surprise!
I'm uploading a new version and also a new version of browser-default.. er.. now the advert blocker does not try to become the default browser! Thanks Lobster.
Cheers
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Did not understand what it meant. Does it mean one wallpaper is persistentGuys! Do you like the new feature?
or a different wallpaper for each window manager is persistent?
Should have reported the ambiguity when I saw it in Beta - sorry.
If I change a wallpaper in a window manager I expect it to be permanent by default. It makes perfect sense if I go back to another window manager that it uses whatever background it was set with.
So basically I am confused by the feature
(it does not take much to confuse me,
recently I have been outwitted by a mouse)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 318#451318
The xfce seems to be working fine
Compiz must be near . . .
FlSynclient problems
Afraid I still have touchpad problems on my HP550 laptop......
I now get a warning that an xserver restart is needed (but no restart is done until done manually) but after the restart FlSynchclient crashes with the attached error message.
This is worse than before as now FlSynchclient can never be run.....
Sorry to bring bad news....
Cheers
Peter
I now get a warning that an xserver restart is needed (but no restart is done until done manually) but after the restart FlSynchclient crashes with the attached error message.
This is worse than before as now FlSynchclient can never be run.....
Sorry to bring bad news....
Cheers
Peter
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Hey guys I'm glad Mick added options for different wallpapers in wmswitcher.
I was experimenting with fluxbox package and also made some kind of theme switcher which runs on fluxbox start only first time when fluxbox is started. So I'll leave this pet here just for fun and sharing ideas - please tell me what do you think.
This pet contains wallpaper, iconset and gtk theme and it asks you if you want to change theme or keep existing setup:
fluxbox_THEMEPACK-1.1.1-i486-lupu.pet
I was experimenting with fluxbox package and also made some kind of theme switcher which runs on fluxbox start only first time when fluxbox is started. So I'll leave this pet here just for fun and sharing ideas - please tell me what do you think.
This pet contains wallpaper, iconset and gtk theme and it asks you if you want to change theme or keep existing setup:
fluxbox_THEMEPACK-1.1.1-i486-lupu.pet
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Re: FlSynclient problems
Bad news is good news for the developers.peebee wrote:I now get a warning that an xserver restart is needed (but no restart is done until done manually) but after the restart FlSynchclient crashes with the attached error message.
Who brings bad new is a good tester!
Sorry, haven't downloaded the luci-234
Maybe it dropped out when remastering...?
EDIT: There is with a wrong name.
Rename the file '/usr/bin/synclient-bin' as ''/usr/bin/synclient.bin'.
Thanks, pemasu.
Check also your touchpad works even after xorgwizard performed.
My test was OK
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Access to shered file via pnethood
Luci-234: Mount cif shared drive with pnethood and open a shared text file with geany.
The geany shows all blank
gmplayer and mtpaint no problem.
Same test on LupQ-511/Puppy-431JPqs3 shows no problem.
I have not yet tested on Lucu-511.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61338
EDIT: Tested Lucu-511. The geany shows all blank same as Luci-234.
I wonder why
LupQ-511 and Lupu-511 has same pnethood and geaney...
jwm are a bit different versions.
The geany shows all blank
gmplayer and mtpaint no problem.
Same test on LupQ-511/Puppy-431JPqs3 shows no problem.
I have not yet tested on Lucu-511.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61338
EDIT: Tested Lucu-511. The geany shows all blank same as Luci-234.
I wonder why
LupQ-511 and Lupu-511 has same pnethood and geaney...
jwm are a bit different versions.
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Oh btw, fluxbox can easily change to another window manager without restarting X:
Menu -> Fluxbox Menu -> Window -> JWM I should add openbox too
I wonder if openbox can do this too they're both forks of blackbox if I recall correctly. Also you can switch wallpaper from fluxbox's menu too it's under "Fluxbox Wallpapers" has lots of features indeed
Menu -> Fluxbox Menu -> Window -> JWM I should add openbox too
I wonder if openbox can do this too they're both forks of blackbox if I recall correctly. Also you can switch wallpaper from fluxbox's menu too it's under "Fluxbox Wallpapers" has lots of features indeed
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Playdayz and shinobar and peebee.
But the solution was easy. No need to download anything. Just rename it.
It is there but the name is wrong: /usr/bin/synclient-bin. I renamed it to synclient.bin and Flsynclient started to work. Didnt notice it because I got working touchpad from the beginning and I didnt need to do the usual setting to get faster movement and tap the click to work.Maybe it dropped out when remastering...?
Attached /usr/bin/sysclient.bin zipped.
But the solution was easy. No need to download anything. Just rename it.
/usr/bin/synclient
Thanks. I have overtaken.pemasu wrote:It is there but the name is wrong: /usr/bin/synclient-bin. I renamed it to synclient.bin and Flsynclient started to work. .
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