Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18

[Lobster]

and when the picture is gone -- "poof" -- so is GoogleEarth.

I believe you need an accelerated driver (common ATI, Nvidia and Intel available in quickpet). You have that?

[Bert]

The 'Clearlooks' openbox theme was removed from Lupu, as it was buggy.
For people who miss it, there's a very lookalike alternative, called Xdream.
I've been testing it and it seems to behave well.

You can find it onthis page at the Box-look site.

[Jasper]

Hi,

Greetings, my regards and untold thanks to the providers and those who helped me tweak Lupu 5.1 to my total satisfaction.

[TheMonsterX]

I always install and use IceWM. Prefer it to Openbox or JWM. Maybe it should be included by default, the way it is in Puppeee.

[Lobster]

Maybe . . .
our intrepid developers did have that facility but . . .
now Icewm is an easy download with Puppy Package Manager (available from quickpet pull down menus)
- guys this thread is for testing and development if possible . . .

[ilanrab]

and when the picture is gone -- "poof" -- so is GoogleEarth.

I believe you need an accelerated driver (common ATI, Nvidia and Intel available in quickpet). You have that?

Slam-dunk! Thank you Lobster!

I must have installed the driver, on lupu-511, prior (weeks or months)
to installing GoogleEarth. With lupu-515beta I wasn't so lucky.
Therefore, GoogleEarth worked right off the bat on 511, but not on 515beta.

I wonder if it's possible to trap a crashing application, figure out that
it's dependent on some particular driver, and put up a dialog box
that offers installation assistance (or at least advice).
ir

[smokey01]

Sometimes when I run PupSetclock and change the time format the fbpanel disappears.

Fbpanel refresh fixes the problem though. Maybe it should auto refresh after a save.

[smokey01]

I have just tried Barry/technosaurus new script called remove_builtin and it's great. It allows you to remove installed packages from the original distribution. You then add the software you like and remaster.

I'm using my new distribution now and I like it a lot. This really is a simple way to build your own system.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 589#479589

Thanks

[radky]

Sometimes when I run PupSetclock and change the time format the fbpanel disappears.

Fbpanel refresh fixes the problem though. Maybe it should auto refresh after a save.

smokey01,

Lupu-515 Beta has a small configuration anomaly in the initial 'pfbpanel setup' which requires running Fbpanel refresh (pfbpanel refresh) to reset the fbpanel configuration file "before" the first run of PupClockset. I understand this will be corrected in the next Beta.

Also, playdayz has indicated a problem with the integration of PupClockset-1.2 in the current Wolf build. Since the final release of Lucid 5.2 is imminent, and there is little time to resolve the Wolf conflict, playdayz has decided to revert to PupClockset-1.1 for the final release of Lucid. However, version 1.2 will be available in PPM, and also here.

Thanks

[abushcrafter]

Have made a few modifications and uploaded here
http://tmxxine.com/luci/

arrrrrr! .

You resized the images using the width and hight parameters not by resizing the images in a image editor! I told you not to do that!

You used a table for formatting! This I forgot to mention. I scribe to not using tables for formatting. Only for displaying data. Use CSS for formatting and in this case a "class" parameter/properties (I need to decide or find out on what to call them) in a "div" tag.

You also got rid of the validation images and links. I proudly put those on. To show I had go to the effort of making it standard compliment.

[ttuuxxx]

Have made a few modifications and uploaded here
http://tmxxine.com/luci/

arrrrrr! .

You resized the images using the width and hight parameters not by resizing the images in a image editor! I told you not to do that!

You used a table for formatting! This I forgot to mention. I scribe to not using tables for formatting. Only for displaying data. Use CSS for formatting and in this case a "class" parameter/properties (I need to decide or find out on what to call them) in a "div" tag.

You also got rid of the validation images and links. I proudly put those on. To show I had go to the effort of making it standard compliment.

I agree images should be resized with a image editor for 2 reasons, one it keeps them square in reduction, Which makes them more clearer and the second reason is a smaller file size that returns in quicker page views and lower monthly bandwidth.

css vs tables, well this is kind of one of those things, some small puppy browsers don't use css, so those people would have an awful web page to look at, also tables are quick and easy, I don't really see any reason why not to use tables.

validation images and links these are always nice to see like http://www.w3schools.com/site/site_validate.asp
or even html editor's
http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/
or wysiwyg editors
http://kompozer.net/

ttuuxxx

[Jades]

Which were the other two apps you mentioned in your earlier post?

It also has gparted and geany. Please let me know if there are others. Thanks.

Currently setting up a Frugal of 515 on the K6 machine. Are the four apps the same version numbers as the normal ones in 515 but compiled for i386 or are they the old versions which were in 5.1.1 and are intended to overwrite the 515 versions?

Thanks.

[lotech]

The beta has problem when install to USB flash, it will keep creating new pup save file every boot never ends, none of them will be used upon boot.

[Lobster]

arrrrrr!

You seem to have turned into a pirate.

Perhaps you are able to finish the formatting and host this time, so I can not alter your well intentioned efforts.

I was happy with the original site, perhaps my standards are too low. Maybe given a few weeks I could do better . . .
Just not interested in spending the time. Maybe you are.

In fact it might be better if you start from scratch and show us how a web site created by an expert looks.

If it is good enough I will host it.

I will leave our joint effort as is.

[ttuuxxx]

arrrrrr!

You seem to have turned into a pirate.

Perhaps you are able to finish the formatting and host this time, so I can not alter your well intentioned efforts.

I was happy with the original site, perhaps my standards are too low. Maybe given a few weeks I could do better . . .
Just not interested in spending the time. Maybe you are.

In fact it might be better if you start from scratch and show us how a web site created by an expert looks.

If it is good enough I will host it.

I will leave our joint effort as is.

Hi lobster I knock 20kb off the image, saves on loading times, its only a slight less quality, First I reduced the quality and then recoloured the image and then reduced it much lesser.
ttuuxxx

[Lobster]

Thanks to Larry (playdayz) I hope the culprit for my WSOD (White Screen of Death) and problems with streaming video may be solved. It is likely to be the proprietary Catalyst driver. The xorg high seems to work . . .

I could not understand how Ubuntu Firefox with the same Flash version was allowing streaming. Then I realized it does not have the ATI driver by default.

If you are having streaming problems, make sure you use the ppm to remove the driver before installing the xorg high driver.

Hope this is the solution. For me it is a show stopper bug

[Lobster]

saves on loading times

Thanks ttuuxxx - I will upload the smaller image
also did some further editing of the main page.

[bigpup]

Thanks to Larry (playdayz) I hope the culprit for my WSOD (White Screen of Death) and problems with streaming video may be solved. It is likely to be the proprietary Catalyst driver. The xorg high seems to work . . .

I could not understand how Ubuntu Firefox with the same Flash version was allowing streaming. Then I realized it does not have the ATI driver by default.

If you are having streaming problems, make sure you use the ppm to remove the driver before installing the xorg high driver.

Hope this is the solution. For me it is a show stopper bug

What video card are you using?
Support for ATI cards is a weak area for Puppy Linux.
ATI just released a Catalyst 10.12 driver.
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/l ... ng=English

[Bert]

Could this be a bug:

I installed the nvidia driver 260.19.12, the one recommended by Quickpet for my nvidia Ion GPU.
( I was happy without it, but hoped it would help in running Google Earth)
As I feared, based on earlier experience, full screen flash video became much worse with the nvidia driver.
So, I uninstalled it with the PPM.and PPM told me it was uninstalled successfully. It disappeared from the installed-pets-list.

But, much to my surprise, the nvidia driver was still there, in the menu and in the file system. Even after restarrting X and after a reboot.

Anyone knows what's happening here?

Second question: why do nvidia drivers actually lower the performance of a nvidia ION gpu?
Thanks!

[Tasgarth]

Bert wrote :

I installed the nvidia driver 260.19.12, the one recommended by Quickpet for my nvidia Ion GPU

Maybe we should use Xorgwizard after uninstalling the Nvidia driver to change Xorg.conf.

With my Nvidia graphics card, for laziness, with the live-cd I do:
1° CD-Live> Quickpet> Nvidia driver pet (driver 260.19.12) > OK
The pet is installed but ... not operational.
(see Menu >setup > Nvidia Settings > click )

2° Then... Menu > Setup > Personalize Settings... >XorgWizard (azerty, fr_FR, etc...) to change Xorg.conf.

In this way, I did not use the driver 'nv' driver directly but the GeForce.260.19.12