Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18

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bigpup · #3076 Post by **bigpup** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 00:42

We need this for the next release.
Open source drivers for the Kinect.
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2010/12 ... nd-ubuntu/
http://News.softpedia.com/news/Download ... 3777.shtml

#3077 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 00:53

Bert wrote:Hi Béèm,

I've never used the nl_BE@euro. Always simply nl_BE. No problems with the €.
But I think I remember you had a special reason for using the @euro locale.
Forgot what that was

As I never knew what the @euro stands for, I assumed it was for the Euro sign, so this why I chooses it.
Good to know the nl_BE has no issue with the Euro sign. Using it now as advised by shinobar.

Jades · #3078 Post by **Jades** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 00:55

bigpup wrote:We need this for the next release.
Open source drivers for the Kinect.
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2010/12 ... nd-ubuntu/

No offence, but I really can't see the point other than it being shiny new kit that's got fifteen minutes of media fame. I'd find fully-working Lupu 5.2 apps on my K6 2 500 machine or even Psion synchronisation more useful.

playdayz · #3079 Post by **playdayz** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 00:58

I'd find fully-working Lupu 5.2 apps on my K6 2 500 machine

Have you tried the K6-pack.pet?

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -Lucid.pet

#3080 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 01:01

Jades wrote:
Béèm wrote:minimize, maximize and close in the title bar disappears when the window doesn't have the focus.

Maybe it is as designed, but I didn't see this before 515.
It's a characteristic of the Anchos theme for Openbox, the current default Window Manager. Other themes in the Openbox Configuration applet do have the icons shown on inactive windows. The nice thing about Openbox's theme config is that it shows you what the various themes will look like before you try them.

I suggest that using a theme that does default to showing all of the furniture on inactive windows would be a more user-friendly choice.

and Bert.
Indeed another theme don't show this behavior.
Thanks to both of you.

Jades · #3081 Post by **Jades** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 01:33

playdayz wrote:
I'd find fully-working Lupu 5.2 apps on my K6 2 500 machine
Have you tried the K6-pack.pet?

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -Lucid.pet

Downloading it now, will give it a shot on the LiveCD installs in the next couple of days. Need to backup the lupusave from the current 5.1.1 LiveCD install first as Lupu 515 Beta will presumably try to upgrade it. While testing with LiveCD is obviously slower on there than installing on the full install of 5.1.1 it's easier to rollback in case of problems. Thanks for the reminder!

Which were the other two apps you mentioned in your earlier post?

Lobster · #3082 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 01:40

I think this has been mentioned . . . and Lucid News
is being updated no doubt but the link to Openshot is
not working for me . . so I downloaded from PPM but it seems to be an earlier version . . .

Puppy Lucid
Kenneling our resources

playdayz · #3083 Post by **playdayz** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 02:39

so I downloaded from PPM but it seems to be an earlier version .

Should be Openshot 1.2.2. I put the 3 programs smil99 made, Python, GtkRecordMy desktop, and Openshot into the PPM together. Maybe choose ibiblio in case they haven't percolated. Or let me know if I got it wrong--there's lots of programs now

These 3 of smil99's should all work together.

playdayz · #3084 Post by **playdayz** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 02:41

Which were the other two apps you mentioned in your earlier post?

It also has gparted and geany. Please let me know if there are others. Thanks.

abushcrafter · #3085 Post by **abushcrafter** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 04:02

Lobster I have not finished editing your web page because I got stuck on how to format some text. Do I have headers and paragraphs or a built list? I felt the section I was stuck on could do with a rewrite anyway. So it was more noob friendly. The lines I am suck on are 70-91.

There was a lot of very bad web site design. You had misused the "hight" and "width" parameters for the "img" tag. To resize images you should use a image editor! Though with photos, if one is not going to previed full high res versions but is having smaller thumb nailish images. Then I don't mined because I like a lot being able to zoom in. However with these image being able to zoom in lots with out pixelation does not mater.

Me thinks the "superheroe" image would be smaller if from its source it was exported into png.

There was a lot of junk tags which weren't doing any thing.

The styles are now set in one place. This is a very good thing. If you read some doc, you will find out what I mean.

The code layout was a mess! *yuck*

It now works on any resolution and uses the full width of ones screen! (I hate fixed/small width websites.) For what it looks like on small screens. See the attached screen shot.

Notecs the quote has a tooltip! I have also used the "cite" parameter! Now it just has to be implemented in web-browsers

. For the mean time I am thinking of having something like a link to the quote source....

One more nice thing I have done, is add a bit of shadow the headers

.

P.S Sorry for spelling errors. My two spell checkers have failed me.

Anyway here it is.

ilanrab · #3086 Post by **ilanrab** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 04:43

Gyle wrote:Hi, please try this:...
Switch to JWM
go directly to JWM configuration / Desktop / Tray management / Virtual
...
"New config corrupt"

I got this error several times, when I tried to change the JWM configuration
in various ways.
I found a workaround. First of all I went into the Themes, and switched
the theme. I saved it and restarted JWM. Just to be safe I also restarted X.
Then I went back in, and made the configuration changes that I originally
wished to make. After that, all was well.

Cheers,
ir

Lobster · #3087 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 05:12

Should be Openshot 1.2.2

That is a later version - hooray - that is the one I installed (knew it was different - sorry for mixup). The Link in Lucid news does not download the earlier version 113

Was able to cobble together this 12 min HD video of Lupu-515
http://youtu.be/q8MUW2HYRB0?hd=1

The video was 220meg before upload and I was also able to use the ffmpeg update (also in Lucid News) for desktop recording - which I am trying to put into Lucid Lit (my personalised program)

Do I have headers and paragraphs or a built list?

No idea. Thanks for your efforts

Have made a few modifications and uploaded here

http://tmxxine.com/luci/

another Puppy 5.2 promotion site here
http://tmxxine.com/p52/

Thanks guys

Puppy Linux
Penguination for all

Gyle · #3088 Post by **Gyle** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 08:15

JWM configuration: "New config corrupt"

I got this error several times, when I tried to change the JWM configuration in various ways. I found a workaround.

ilanrab,
thank you to confirm this little bug which is not new. It appears and disappears according to the versions.
This thread is not interested by the workaround, see the second part of my previous post which is only a description not a workaround, but to try to understand the cause and fix it. If not, a newcomer will be confused and, may be, will not find easily this trick, as you did.
Cheers

ilanrab · #3089 Post by **ilanrab** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 08:42

Gyle wrote:JWM configuration: "New config corrupt"

I got this error several times, when I tried to change the JWM configuration in various ways. I found a workaround.

ilanrab,
thank you to confirm this little bug..

You are quite welcome, Gyle. It is a pleasure to make your acquaintance.

Gyle wrote: This thread is not interested by the workaround, see the second part of my previous post which is only a description not a workaround, but to try to understand the cause and fix it. If not, a newcomer will be confused and, may be, will not find easily this trick, as you did.
Cheers

Actually, in this particular instance, the workaround was not derived by
chance or by pure trial and error.
A knowledgeable developer, that knows this area of code, should be able
figure out a fix for the problem, by using the concept behind this
workaround; a bit of some tracing detective work. If not a fix, than at
least a "quick fix" can be figured out for the time being.

cheers,
ir

ilanrab · #3090 Post by **ilanrab** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 08:53

GoogleEarth starts up with its revealing splash screen,
and when the picture is gone -- "poof" -- so is GoogleEarth.

Given:
A 100% clean installation of frugal lupu-515 on a flash drive.
GoogleEarth was installed by using the quickpet tool.

The two affected systems:
A Dell Latitude D400, with 1GB of RAM, and a Dell DHP Desktop
with 512MB of RAM. Both are booting off the flash drive (not at
the same time, of course).

ir

Lobster · #3091 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 09:16

and when the picture is gone -- "poof" -- so is GoogleEarth.

I believe you need an accelerated driver (common ATI, Nvidia and Intel available in quickpet). You have that?

Bert · #3092 Post by **Bert** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 11:03

The 'Clearlooks' openbox theme was removed from Lupu, as it was buggy.
For people who miss it, there's a very lookalike alternative, called Xdream.
I've been testing it and it seems to behave well.

You can find it onthis page at the Box-look site.

Jasper · #3093 Post by **Jasper** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 12:09

Hi,

Greetings, my regards and untold thanks to the providers and those who helped me tweak Lupu 5.1 to my total satisfaction.

TheMonsterX · #3094 Post by **TheMonsterX** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 12:14

I always install and use IceWM. Prefer it to Openbox or JWM. Maybe it should be included by default, the way it is in Puppeee.

Lobster · #3095 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 21 Dec 2010, 12:30

Maybe . . .
our intrepid developers did have that facility but . . .
now Icewm is an easy download with Puppy Package Manager (available from quickpet pull down menus)
- guys this thread is for testing and development if possible . . .

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