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#31 Post by scsijon »

tasmod wrote:Oh how I dislike the Complete Configuration Wizard.

Why can't we have a keyboard and country setter alone ?

Video resolution is set fine at first run, then run the complete configuration to set country/keyboard and chaos ensues, resetting the video resolution again it always goes to right resolution but moves drive icons, desktop icons and loses tray !
Wish it did for me tasmod :cry: :( :cry: , three out of my four test and work boxes need the CCW to be usefull.

Although Barry's latest (wary090) has fixed it for two of them (last troublemaker is yet to have it installed as it is at another location). Hopefully when in it's added into woof my troubles will go away.


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Re: Lucid Puppy 5.2 Base

#32 Post by yarddog »

maxpro4u wrote:
yarddog wrote:when opening gnumeric, recieve following error message
Frugal install on laptop in sig- no such error here,opened fine.
my bad - failed to state that I was running gnumeric from command line when received the errors

found reply in another thread advising to install
gnumeric-1-10-9-w5 pet and
goffice 0.8.9-w5 pet

tried this and have not had any further problems

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#33 Post by playdayz »

I am very much looking forward to Jemimahs IRC chat client
I hope I did not misspeak. Jemimah is advising but not necessarily creating a miraculous chat client ;-)

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#34 Post by playdayz »

A quick question: playdayz, do you have any plans to make a retro flavor of 5.2?
Iguleder, No. No use trying to do what Wary already can do better.

Are you thinking of a Squeeze retro/legacy?

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BTW, I just reduced Pidgin 2.7.1 from 14MB to 8MB by the simple expedient of removing 22MB worth of locales. I personally don't regard locales as "bloat" but 22MB seems like a lot. Anyway they could be put into a pet for those who want them. 8MB is still too big probably but it's a start to having a full-functional Chat program.

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#35 Post by playdayz »

Oh how I dislike the Complete Configuration Wizard.

Why can't we have a keyboard and country setter alone ?

Video resolution is set fine at first run, then run the complete configuration to set country/keyboard and chaos ensues, resetting the video resolution again it always goes to right resolution but moves drive icons, desktop icons and loses tray !


Wish it did for me tasmod Crying or Very sad Sad Crying or Very sad , three out of my four test and work boxes need the CCW to be usefull.
We should have the best of both worlds for 5.2, I think, unless I am missing something.

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#36 Post by Iguleder »

Are you thinking of a Squeeze retro/legacy?
No, but I want it to have two flavors from 010 and on - one with the LTS 2.6.32.x (which is also used by Debian Squeeze and Ubuntu 10.4), patched to appear as 2.6.32 so kernel updates can be rolled in silently without any difference to the user :)

The second with the kernel you use, Barry's 2.6.35.7, but if I dislike it too much I might compile my own. I already did that once but then you mentioned Barry's intention to do that too and I decided to leave the kernel work to him.

I'm waiting for someone to take over Squeeze, I think it's time for me to retire and be a kernel guy, bug killer and packager ... maybe once 010 is released. I'm out of cool ideas.
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#37 Post by fuzzy »

It installs and operates fine on other Puppies but not on luci230.
I'm running 5.1.1 now with Java.

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#38 Post by playdayz »

There is a luci-231 posted.

It has Shinobar's 8d4 first-run dialog
Iguleder's repaired cpu_freq-scaling that works for quad core
And Openbox and fbpanel as default.

My thinking is that openbox is receiving more and more diverse development., plus jwm has several problems we have discovered.

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#39 Post by Béèm »

playdayz wrote:
BTW, I just reduced Pidgin 2.7.1 from 14MB to 8MB by the simple expedient of removing 22MB worth of locales. I personally don't regard locales as "bloat" but 22MB seems like a lot. Anyway they could be put into a pet for those who want them. 8MB is still too big probably but it's a start to having a full-functional Chat program.
As long there is a sfs for pidgin, it doesn't matter that all locales are included.
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sfs install pet

#40 Post by scsijon »

@playdayz
there is already a simple sfs installer pet in the system from dejan555 (http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 61&t=40779) called sfsinstall-0.1.2.pet, Once installed, it appears as part of the right-click menu on a xxx.sfs. Is this what you are looking for?

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#41 Post by playdayz »

Once installed, it appears as part of the right-click menu on a xxx.sfs. Is this what you are looking for?
Maybe scsijon, Thanks for mentioning it. That is the third different approach we have found--so I will take a close look. Thanks again.

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#42 Post by James C »

Grabbed an old Windows 98 box off the shelf tonight.....already tried both kernel versions of Wary and both versions of Squeeze.Might as well try this too. :)

Luci-231 live pfix=ram in this powerful 433 mhz Celeron box. Initial boot had working internet and sound.........and a totally distorted display.Did the old three fingered salute and got back to xorgwizard,reset the resolution to 1024x768x16 and working fine now.
Just for the record,none of the five versions I've tried would work at my usual 1024x768x24.



# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 231

Chip description:
oem: ATI MACH64

Driver used by Xorg:
mach64

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 16 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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-Computer-
Processor : Celeron (Mendocino)
Memory : 385MB (112MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.23
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Thu Oct 14 22:30:13 2010
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI


-Processor-
Name : Celeron (Mendocino)
Family, model, stepping : 6, 6, 5 (Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron)
Vendor : Intel
-Configuration-
Cache Size : 128kb
Frequency : 434.30MHz
BogoMIPS : 868.60
Byte Order : Little Endian

Time for a break and then I'll do a fresh install on the old P3 test box. :)

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#43 Post by James C »

Fresh frugal install of Luci-231 on the old P3 test box.

Initial boot had working internet,sound and the correct screen resolution.Installed Xorg-High and Firefox.


# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 231

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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# glxgears

1413 frames in 5.0 seconds
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-Computer
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 254MB (118MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.23
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri Oct 15 00:08:53 2010
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI i810E 20050821 x86/MMX/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

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#44 Post by James C »

Didn't change the default language,or anything actually, and here is my Quickpet.....

EDIT: Opened Quickpet again and now it's correct.... :lol:
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#45 Post by Lobster »

Been happily using Luci 230 (with the 4 Firefox beta) for a few days. So very happy to try 2.3.1
In fact the only problem in the Firefox beta was not being able to easily use add ons - feature is coming . . .

First of all the transition to openbox from JWM seemed seamless.
What will happen with the JWM/Icewm switcher? Do we have or require other window managers
in the base 5.2?
Using Openbox must have involved some serious work.

I did get the double menubar settings enclosed (after trying many features - maybe someone can confirm what starts it off )
Restarting x cured it.

I have updated the 5.2 Lucid Maverick wiki page (I actually think of it as Luci Meerkat)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Puppy52

I used Quickpet to successfully install xorg drivers and google earth

Larry you have incorporated shinobars efforts very well.
All credit to both of you working together.

Pmusic has weird box text after it in the menus - see graphic attached
- reported this before - it is to do with the font settings

All seems on track 8)
Hope to hear how others get on :)
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Multimedia issues

#46 Post by gjuhasz »

playdayz wrote:There is a luci-231 posted.
1. Performance of Openbox is only a bit worse than of JWM: glxgears show only 2-3% drop. It's OK, most of the users can live with that.

2. Multimedia menu is weird: instead of drilling down to the third level, it opens the second level menu item again and again. See the attached picture.

3. A 100-year-old problem :( Mobile phone videos still don't play sound out-of-the-box in Luci/Lupu series. Same situation in 231. To hear sound of mobile videos, I always up(down?)grade the built-in mplayer with mplayer-post-1.0rc3-svn-31792-i486.pet. I really don't understand why a weak version keeps being included in all the Lupus. Just because they are glued to Ubuntu? Anyway, the workaround exists... For lazy users, silence is golden :)
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#47 Post by Lobster »

Still having to reconnect DHCP ethernet after rebooting (intermittent)
It recognizes but is not permanent - I think an explanation of the software used - already explained.
Have only ever had this in Lucid series.

Installed java from quickpet but did not take :cry: also tried an SFS - still no java
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Re: Multimedia issues

#48 Post by jpeps »

gjuhasz wrote:
playdayz wrote:There is a luci-231 posted.
1. Performance of Openbox is only a bit worse than of JWM: glxgears show only 2-3% drop. It's OK, most of the users can live with that.
Recommend JWM as a simple option.

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#49 Post by playdayz »

What will happen with the JWM/Icewm switcher? Do we have or require other window managers
in the base 5.2?
Using Openbox must have involved some serious work.
jwm is still there. Exit to a prompt and enter 'xwin jwm' JWM will remain. I am hoping we could replace Icewm with Fluxbox (which is compositable) and have compiz as an option. Openbox/fbpanel added almost no size.

Actually Barry had done most of the work to get Openbox and fbpanel working. I would have used lxpanel, except Barry had already done the configuring for fbpanel.
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#50 Post by playdayz »

giuhasz and Lobster

Double menu bar and problem with multimedia menu.

Were these updates or fresh installs? Please try with pfix=ram.

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