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dejan555


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 06:44    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:

Is Openbox more stable for more users?
why is it the default?
Users on IRC are saying JWM is faster . . .


JWM surely IS faster but it may have some bugs with fullscreen and doesn't handle window placement as good as openbox I guess. Openbox could be set not to animate iconify/restore maybe to speed it up a bit.

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 07:08    Post subject:  

ttuuxxx wrote:
Same as 3 post above, but I added a menu link to run it and its smaller

Ps night all Smile
ttuuxxx
Some nice MOC themes:
http://nic-nac-project.org/~orveldv/wiki/doku.php?id=moc
http://moc.daper.net/node/154
http://moc.daper.net/contrib

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ttuuxxx


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 07:28    Post subject:  

Here's Fileroller archiver Smile
Ps the latest wouldn't compile due to the age of the backend in 239, very strange, I even degrade the versions still no go.
Anyways this one came out this year also:)
ttuuxxx
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Sylvander

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 07:34    Post subject:  

Back into Luci-238 using the lucisave on the Flash Drive, and all's-well here. Very Happy

But how to update to Luci-239, and have it work well?
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 07:49    Post subject:  

dejan555 wrote:

JWM surely IS faster.


Thanks dejan555
These tiny differences can
be very important to those with older hardware.

Sylvander mentioned that not all settings were saved during upgrade
I can confirm his report:
My firewall was off (when I had it turned on)
and there was no internet connection or sound after the upgrade
Also my JWM settings had returned to the default.

I demand a refund Laughing

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01micko


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 07:50    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:

1. Quickpet>news>Lucid Puppy News
Midori browser starts up with the news page and no warning about Midori being a basic browser. You know the problems that can cause.
If you go to desktop>browser icon and select midori from the list, then run midori, you get the warning.

fixed


bigpup wrote:

2. Quickpet>drivers> click here to test graphics card
I have a Nvidia graphics card and it suggests Xorg-high for driver.

almost fixed

Crustacean wrote:

I tried opening 3 quickpets and installing 3 programs simultaneously
- ahem - do not try this at home.
One of the packages was the crystal ATI and I ended up with a black screen.

Working on some "Lobster proofing". It's a term Larry and myself often use in PMs. At the stage I have it now, you can't get a driver while other things are coming in with wget. Without running a daemon, I can't stop a user starting another download whilst they are downloading a video driver. I can put in a warning. Many people are aware that they can't run too much at once. I have successfully grabbed 4 or 5 pets at once without issue, excluding video drivers. I should also implement the same for sfs downloads, although the reboot is prompted, not automatic. Maybe I won't. I don't like to dumb down things too much. Puppies are pretty smart Wink .

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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 08:38    Post subject: Re: luci239 report  

scsijon wrote:
sorry playdayz,

last version tested was 236 which was ok on sat box 1, nogo on dialup box2 (modem only).

239 fails on both with video, probe and select (intel 915(sat) and radeon (dialup)); start firewall on both (sanity check, could not find filter table); modem (agere winmodem); ethernet (10base1000).

will add details tomorrow as have just 16meg of sat left.

scsijon


If you want agere winmodem support then you need to use wary098....

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Tasgarth

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 08:48    Post subject: Luci 239
Subject description: Luci 239
 

Luci 239
azerty, fr_FR, Nvidia-35 driver :

SFS (if possible) and pets:
startmount, Osmo,sylpheed, Seamonkey2, Skype, VLC, java, Gimp-1.06+streamtuner
versioinfo-2, SW-02 wallsetter (with relative links -heavy 8 Mpx JPEGs without any compression- very well for me.... and Quickpet Smile
And the snow falls, all is well.
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live

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 09:07    Post subject: UTF-8 that we are investigating  

>He alerted us to an issue with UTF-8 that we are investigating.

Well, I'm not surprised at all, as I already posted such issues for Luci 209.
Puppy needs the latest fixes.
By miracle, Luci 238 as finally a more recent ntfs-3g & Gparted.
Look at the change logs of PartedMagic and SystemRescueCD, they do know why upgrades are necessary.
Core upgrades are to be done and would save quite some hassle and maybe raise Puppy rank in distrowatch.

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/ntfs3g
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/GParted

Similarly, why package manager is not pointing to the latest pet???

Examples:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/GIMP
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/VLC

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 10:23    Post subject: Bubbles
Subject description: Games
 

Quote:
here Gweled I left the locals in,.....Smile
ttuuxxx


First: Good to see you ttuuxxx Smile

Can you set up bubbles as well... good time waster Smile and I think small, pet OK.

Luci is very good and getting better every day!
For all - HAPPY THANKSGIVING, hope you are not overstuffed!

playdayz: please include the Gweled and Bubbles if possible.
As long as I am here, I have two clients using spreadsheets daily, please keep it updated. One uses it to run a Beauty shop and another collects data for roller skating classes. It is very valuable. Real world production! Also a great teaching aid for kids.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 10:35    Post subject: Re: Bubbles
Subject description: Games
 

Minnesota wrote:
Quote:
here Gweled I left the locals in,.....Smile
ttuuxxx


First: Good to see you ttuuxxx Smile

Can you set up bubbles as well... good time waster Smile and I think small, pet OK.

Luci is very good and getting better every day!
For all - HAPPY THANKSGIVING, hope you are not overstuffed!

playdayz: please include the Gweled and Bubbles if possible.
As long as I am here, I have two clients using spreadsheets daily, please keep it updated. One uses it to run a Beauty shop and another collects data for roller skating classes. It is very valuable. Real world production! Also a great teaching aid for kids.


Nice to see you also Minnesota, I'm just here for a few days to lend a hand, My main focus is 2.14X and also the next Living water will be built on 2.14X, its 1/2 done now Smile
I also think Gweled should be included, Its too large on 2.14X (around 3MB compressed) with all the extra gnome libs its needs, but Luci had them all included and well it makes it much smaller because of it.
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 10:54    Post subject:  

Sylvander wrote:
Back into Luci-238 using the lucisave on the Flash Drive, and all's-well here. Very Happy

But how to update to Luci-239, and have it work well?

Here is info about different installs and how to update. Make sure you read the warnings about updating save files.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60302
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 11:13    Post subject:  

Brown Mouse wrote:
dejan555 wrote:
So I guess they changed automatic thumbnail previews option.
You can right click eye icon in rox or turn on thumbnails in rox options under thumbnails tab.


Thanks dejan555,that was an easy fix from 'rox options'. Very Happy
I think it might be a good idea if 'turn on thumbnails' was made default setting.


The thumbnails are cached, which uses up disc space. If you're unaware of this, there's a possibility you could suddenly run out of space in your pupsave for no obvious reason.

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 11:56    Post subject:  

Quote:
Suddenly while browsing or something, it drops to commandline (xorg apparently dies).

Gabe, What window manager were you using? What browser? Any other details? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 12:03    Post subject:  

Quote:
Openbox could be set not to animate iconify/restore maybe to speed it up a bit.

I am trying that at the moment.

By "faster" I assume people mean, programs open faster.

The main reason for Openbox is that the latest gnome-mplayer and some other programs (including Stellarium as I recall, and maybe google Earth) do not do full screen properly on jwm

Quote:
Users on IRC are saying JWM is faster .
. .
I hope they (users on IRC) feel that everyone who contributes to this forum, which is the place for Lucid development, gets listened to and considered. We need examples--right now I ma opening and closing programs over and over, trying to get a feel if jwm is truly faster and how that would balance out with the known issues. Thanks.

Here are some notes of mine about issues with jwm

openoffice Present
gnome-mplayer full screen
stellarium full screen
doesn’t resize screen properly when resolution is changed

Apps opening instantaneously is IMHO a very good thing. Once upon a time I made Black Greyhound Ultra for that reason.

Menu -> Desktop Settings -> Openbox window manager config -> Appearance -> uncheck Animate iconify and restore

Right now, in Openbox, apps are opening snappily for me.

BTW, a second consideration in choosing Openbox was that it was getting more development and testing (because of being included in LXDE).

It also might be w2roth a try to change the Openbox theme to clearlooks. Desktop Setting -> GTK Theme Chooser *and* Openbox wm config

Clearlooks uses an engine rather than a pixbuf (image).

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