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Brown Mouse


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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:45    Post subject:  
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Something not quite right with Pidgin.When you click a web link from within chat,it opens up the 'Browser installer'.

Use the browser-default to make Opera the default browser. The pet (which I made) does not do that, unfortunately.

browser-default is the globe next to the menu button in the lower left.


Playdayz

Thanks,problem solved Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:49    Post subject:  
edoc,
Boot with the parameter 'pfix=nox'. That should boot to a prompt. At the prompt enter 'xorg-setup'. That will start the xorgwizard. Or enter xorgwizard twice==same result.

We have not changed any graphics since 236, but Barry may have changed something in Woof. I would like to know.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:09    Post subject:  
No joy, pfix-nox made no difference, the blank screen was unresponsive.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:15    Post subject:  
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Nooby wrote : So symlink or anything just making a first time version of Luci_238 that a newbie would only installed a browser I chose FF 4.07

Next boot failed. and next boot failed too. They go to kernel panic.


Playdayz suggests:

Probably better to use luci-239.

So you boot with pfix=ram. Then you install FF 4b7. Then you Shutdown and in shutdown you create a save file? Then it will not reboot?

Perhaps, Shutdown and create a Save file before you install anything.



would that really help I did try to be very basic using luci-239 so I doubt I did something wrong.

The cool thing is that Puppy Studio that are based on Lupu5.1.1 do boot each time but I have not tested more than two in a row.

Luci fail to boot each first time and most likely the second and only boot on third reboot.

What has changed in that regard that luci would be more problematic to boot compared to lupu?

I go to bed now so will not do any test for some 12 hour or more in case I go to big town to buy a statue of Guan Yin? Amida Buddha female counter part.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:21    Post subject:  
DM was on fire! wrote:
ICPUG, you will find that no matter what puplet you are running, they are all essentially the same on the inside. They might have different WMs or programs, but the base system is all the same. Smile


The base system is not all the same! As woof develops the underlying scripts change, so a system based on woof as at November 2010 may be different to that based on woof at October 2010.

Then there are those puplets not based on woof at all but maybe T2 or maybe the puplet developer uses his own method/scripts.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:28    Post subject:  
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No joy, pfix-nox made no difference, the blank screen was unresponsive.

Did you put the pfix=nox into the boot parameters in grub--the ones you listed?

Or, make a Cd and boot with that and at the beginning when it asks for parameters enter 'puppy pfix=nox'
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:32    Post subject:  
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Re hyphen or underscore

It was Barry who moved from underscore to hyphen sometime around 4.3.1 (? maybe before that). This caused a bit of a problem with any iso busting tools that did not take account of the CD format being used. A simple file rename would solve it.

I cannot remember when but Barry moved back to underscore again recently because of the problems. Presumably this is why underscore now appears with luci_238.

Barry has been doing a lot of things to woof recently and reversing some things he did previously.

Please anyone help me out here with some explanation.

The underscore is a problem for windows users booting from a usb stick. Do I have that correct--so I can report to Barry. Thank you.


Hi Playdayz,

No, the user who had a problem with booting from a usb stick, Gabe, noticed an underscore in the name and being used to a hyphen surmised this might be the cause.

I made the comment above just to outline the history of the hyphen/underscore feature and that underscore is probably OK now. For reference, Barry mentioned moving back to underscore in his blog here:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01812

In an earlier post Shinobar referenced what is probably the real cause of the problem. Unetbootin, which had been used to copy the files had created a boot entry with pmedia=cd, because it copied the isolinux.cfg from the cd. In the latest version of woof this does not work when trying to boot from USB (seems reasonable to me). Shinobar suggested changing to pmedia=usbflash and found it worked for him.

I don't think there is anything to report to Barry re the underscore.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:39    Post subject: Re: international version mtpaint 3.34.57  
Thanks don. The rebuild mtpaint seems work with NLS.
But the PET has mistaken directory and fails to install.
By the way, isn't the name of the pet better to be 'mtpaint-2.24.57-lucid1' or something rather than 'mtpaint-intl-'? Only my thought.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:41    Post subject:  
Brown Mouse wrote:
playdayz wrote:
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Something not quite right with Pidgin.When you click a web link from within chat,it opens up the 'Browser installer'.

Use the browser-default to make Opera the default browser. The pet (which I made) does not do that, unfortunately.

browser-default is the globe next to the menu button in the lower left.


Playdayz

Thanks,problem solved Smile


I have fixed the Opera pet http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/Opera-10.63-Lucid.pet

Thanks for testing Pidgin, btw.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:42    Post subject:  
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As woof develops the underlying scripts change, so a system based on woof as at November 2010 may be different to that based on woof at October 2010.

Yes, as ICPUG says. That's why I am crazy! Wink

Got it about the underscore too ICPUG. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:44    Post subject:  
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What has changed in that regard that luci would be more problematic to boot compared to lupu?

Some versions of luci might have had a problem with being too large to load into ram successfully. That has been fixed with luci-239.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 20:46    Post subject:  
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Thanks don. The rebuild mtpaint seems work with NLS.
But the PET has mistaken directory and fails to install

We have all been there don. No worries. Stay with it.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 21:20    Post subject:  
playdayz wrote:
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No joy, pfix-nox made no difference, the blank screen was unresponsive.

Did you put the pfix=nox into the boot parameters in grub--the ones you listed?


Code:
 # Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Puppy Linux luci_239 Frugal (on /dev/sda2)
  root (hd0,1)
  kernel (hd0,1)/luci_239/vmlinuz pfix=fsck PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 psubdir=luci_239 acpi=noirq nosmp vga=normal video=640x480 pfix-nox
  initrd (hd0,1)/luci_239/initrd.gz
  # Linux bootable partition config ends

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 21:43    Post subject:  
Luci-239 live pfix=ram on the main Linux box.No problems....sound and internet working on initial boot as well as the correct 1440x900 screen resolution.
Back in a few from frugal install in test box..
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 21:45    Post subject:  
edoc wrote:
vga=normal video=640x480 pfix-nox


Should be "pfix=nox".
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