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gabe

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 17:07    Post subject:  
playdayz wrote:

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Gnome-mplayer

Mplayer is also different in Lucid 5.2 development versions. You might check Prefeneces and set the Video to xv and postprocessing to maximum. In 5.1 you might download a newer mplayer from PPM: Multimedia.


I tested both 5.1.1 and Luci-238 (the one in the first post of this thread). Both versions of gnome-mplayer display the same problem. The files I've tested are AVC (H.264) and have embedded postprocessing--the player should NOT apply any of its own to AVC streams, ever! The speed in xv is barely different. Also, subtitle rendering is flawed on internal ssa subtitles (not a big deal, but playback is). GXine (Puppy 4.2 et al) is both orders of magnitudes faster and renders correctly without jaggies and graphical glitches. It is also extremely small and can play DVDs.

I will upload a sample file later if you really can't reproduce this (ANY AVC file, be it in mp4 or mkv, show this problem, and only on this player). Again, VLC works perfectly, and plays even HD video at full speed with correct subtitle rendering on my standard netbook with standard i945 gfx chipset.

Also, in case some people missed it last time, all puppy versions up to luci-236 (including 4.x, 5.1.1, etc) booted perfectly from USB with one click from Unetbootin and/or pendrivelinux Universal USB Installer.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 17:27    Post subject:  
239, JWM. Nah.. calender dont work Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 17:35    Post subject: Lucid Puppy 5.2 Base Luci-239 New Version NOV 25
Subject description: ati		  
I installed 239 to a flash drive with bootflash.
I installed the ati driver in quickpet and it works great.
# glxgears
19547 frames in 5.0 seconds
19590 frames in 5.0 seconds
19586 frames in 5.0 seconds
19599 frames in 5.0 seconds
19600 frames in 5.0 seconds
#
OpenGL
Vendor ATI Technologies Inc.
Renderer ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics
Version 3.3.10243 Compatibility Profile Context
Direct Rendering Yes

I installed a few pets that I've made in the last few days and they
still work in 239 Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 18:23    Post subject: Re: Lucid Puppy 5.2 Base Luci-239 New Version NOV 25
Subject description: Heavy Testing Please		  
playdayz wrote:
12. I just used my one hundredth CD in testing Lucid.
Ouch!

What about my goods I posted several pages back?
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 18:35    Post subject:  
Found the reason gnome-mplayer was abysmally slow AND why the video was rendered incorrectly (including all xvid/divx/x264/flv/etc).

De-interlace video was active by default. It should ONLY be activated (MANUALLY) for interlaced videos, and should absolutely NOT be selected by default. Post-processing also should not be activated by default -- it should be left up to the user if he/she wishes to eliminate all the detail in his/her videos and slow the player to a grinding halt. Sad

These two options (post-processing and de-interlace) should not be enabled by default. And before you ask, yes--I do know what I'm talking about. Not only do I have great experience in encoding and video compression, but I can also thankfully monitor the fps of the video playback and CPU usage in htop. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 18:54    Post subject:  
Luci-239 does not like the Intel 82852/855GM graphics in my Panasonic Toughbook CF-29.

I get a blank screen and can only break out with a cold reboot.

dpup009 and Luci-236 handle it fine.

Code:
  # Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Puppy Linux luci_239 Frugal (on /dev/sda2)
  root (hd0,1)
  kernel (hd0,1)/luci_239/vmlinuz pfix=fsck PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 psubdir=luci_239 acpi=noirq nosmp vga=normal video=640x480
  initrd (hd0,1)/luci_239/initrd.gz
  # Linux bootable partition config ends

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 18:56    Post subject:  
Gabe I guess it could help a lot of us if you describe how we can can also turn it off.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:00    Post subject: full install using frugal  
When I booted for the first time with a frugal install, it is totally in ram, right? My C drive is not mounted. Can I format the C drive and do a full install if I have the iso on a USB drive? I do not have a burner nor will the pc boot with a USB. There is no floppy drive either.
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gabe

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:18    Post subject:  
My graphics card:
"Intel Corporation 82845G/GL [Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)"
also experiences random crashes with "intel," and I haven't gotten it to test properly with "old i815" -- but it might work with that. The difference with the above poster is that mine crashes during runtime randomly (after watching a youtube video, for instance) but not at boot because I have GRUB4Dos in Linux Console mode. Wink

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Gabe I guess it could help a lot of us if you describe how we can can also turn it off.

Oh, I was so busy reporting it (for development) hadn't considered people actually USING it. Sorry, sorry. Assuming you don't want to edit config files, go to Edit -> Preferences (in gnome mplayer).
Player tab
Drag the slider for "Post-procesing level" all the way to the left ("No postprocessing" should be reported).
Mplayer tab
Uncheck "Deinterlace video"
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:26    Post subject:  
Can I force a generic driver in GRUB?
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:27    Post subject:  
gabe, We are happy to have your input. Would it be possible to provide links to a sample video or two so we could be looking at the same thing. Thanks.

Here are some files I test with, for comparison.

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/mediatest.tar.gz

Sorry that I can't remember, but if you haven't you might try the Xorg_High driver available in Quickpet -> Drivers. It would provide dri for the intel chipset (or should). After install you can check with glxgears, glxinfo, or hardinfo -> Display to see the OpenGL info, as I'm sure you know.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:36    Post subject:  
In 239

Installed correct Nvidia driver and Opera from Quickpet

Something not quite right with Pidgin.When you click a web link from within chat,it opens up the 'Browser installer'.

The 'Firewall status'icon seems to function correctly now after rebooting.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:40    Post subject:  
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So symlink or anything just making a first time version of Luci_238 that a newbie would only installed a browser I chose FF 4.07

Next boot failed. and next boot failed too. They go to kernel panic.

Probably better to use luci-239.

So you boot with pfix=ram. Then you install FF 4b7. Then you Shutdown and in shutdown you create a save file? Then it will not reboot?

Perhaps, Shutdown and create a Save file before you install anything.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:41    Post subject:  
Brown Mouse
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Something not quite right with Pidgin.When you click a web link from within chat,it opens up the 'Browser installer'.

Use the browser-default to make Opera the default browser. The pet (which I made) does not do that, unfortunately.

browser-default is the globe next to the menu button in the lower left.
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PostPosted: Thu 25 Nov 2010, 19:45    Post subject:  
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What about my goods I posted several pages back?

Thanks for the contributions Wink Maybe you can take them off your taxes.
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