Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18

[playdayz]

Lucid Puppy Luci-238 boots irregularly.

Hey brownmouse, try luci-239 later today or tomorrow. Thanks.

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx,
We need the internal browser to run Cups which requires javascript, as well as to display Help and LupuNews from Quickpet. Thanks.

well it does work with cups, should display help and news fine. Dillo does work with javascript, It probably would work with Gmail also if ssl was working properly. I did compile it with ssl
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Heck if you don't want want dillo, Just make sure ssl works in your next release and I'll compile something else tomorrow
ttuuxxx

[playdayz]

Re hyphen or underscore

It was Barry who moved from underscore to hyphen sometime around 4.3.1 (? maybe before that). This caused a bit of a problem with any iso busting tools that did not take account of the CD format being used. A simple file rename would solve it.

I cannot remember when but Barry moved back to underscore again recently because of the problems. Presumably this is why underscore now appears with luci_238.

Barry has been doing a lot of things to woof recently and reversing some things he did previously.

Please anyone help me out here with some explanation.

The underscore is a problem for windows users booting from a usb stick. Do I have that correct--so I can report to Barry. Thank you.

[zigbert]

pmetatagger also uses id3tag/info/convert
In puppy 5.1.1(and luci238) pmetatagger only supports ogg and flac. With id3tag it supports 10 formats.


Sigmund

[nooby]

Thanks Jades! Very good explanation and I agree that it is better to have that choice then it being autmoatically even when one don't want it to be

Brown Mouse

I will try to start all over with the iso and and a totally new frugal install to see if that works better.

But I vaguely remember that I ahve tried that before.

I am on NTFS are you also dual booting with win7Starter?
I report later tonight. Has some house keeeping to do.

[zigbert]

Jeeeeeee, Dillo is fast

Sad I loose the address-field and tool-buttons after entered many pages.


Thank you ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Jeeeeeee, Dillo is fast

Sad I loose the address-field and tool-buttons after entered many pages.


Thank you ttuuxxx

Your welcome Zigbert

I was thinking If all those 24MB compressed doc's in the devX get moved into a sfs, Then wouldn't it make sense to add the static fltk-2.0 Lib's I posted ?, Less than 1MB, still would have an extra 23MB to play with The nice thing about fltk-2.0 is that they compile apps small like dillo, Unlike QT where a min static app compiled is a min 6+MB, Most the time its around 10MB, but I have compiled a couple around 6MB. When they are that large, Its pretty much better just to add the whole lib backend If your including 2 or 3 apps.

ttuuxxx

[playdayz]

Unfortunately, neither Dillo, Hv3, or Netsurf runs Cups completely. Thanks for the ideas. (01micko knew about Netsurf. I am just trying to summarize the situation.)

What we could really use from the gifted compilers is the latest version of Midori. Technosaurus's version that we are using is 2.5MB (no SSL--which is OK for use as an internal browser).

Any other *comparable* browser of the same size would be worth a look.

We need the internal browser for 3 reasons.
1. Cups
2. display Help
3. LupuNews in Quickpet (until people download a real browser).

[playdayz]

- id3convert and id3cp (not in use by Pmusic)
- id3info and id3tag (in use)

Got 'em.

[DaveS]

Now look! Why cant I have a calender pop up when I click on the clock? Useability fail?

[Brown Mouse]

Thanks Jades! Very good explanation and I agree that it is better to have that choice then it being autmoatically even when one don't want it to be

Brown Mouse

I will try to start all over with the iso and and a totally new frugal install to see if that works better.

But I vaguely remember that I ahve tried that before.

I am on NTFS are you also dual booting with win7Starter?
I report later tonight. Has some house keeeping to do.

nooby

No,I have XP Home on my netbook and I sat the Fluppy savefile and the 511 on the NTFS partition and boot from a usb flash drive.
Both work perfectly but what I found was,it's essential to start with a clean savefile.

[playdayz]

Now look! Why cant I have a calender pop up when I click on the clock? Useability fail?

Right-click? It just worked for me, in Openbox.

[DaveS]

Now look! Why cant I have a calender pop up when I click on the clock? Useability fail?

Right-click? It just worked for me, in Openbox.

Fails in JWM

[ttuuxxx]

I just tried this static build qt browser that comes qt when you compile it, Its 14MB compressed single bin file, but it doesn't display the forums images, lol
Strange, but gmail works with it, lol
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

congratulations on the 100 pages
excellent work to get this far


The other 2 static qt apps compiled in 2.14X work fine, That browser had the same issue in 2.14X


Ps an easy way to tell if ssl is working is just basically open a terminal and type ssl
like this
# ssl
bash: ssl: command not found

that means it needs fixing on luci-238
ttuuxxx

[DM was on fire!]

After remembering about the lovely command that is alsaconf, I fixed my only problem with this version of Lucid.
I did notice I had some issues while playing Transformice (the same issue I had before) with a bit of pixelling (here. Please try to pay no mind to the usernames. I play with a rowdy bunch. lol). It was fixed by transferring the libflashplayer.so from 4.3.1 and placing it in /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin. I would attach it, but I cannot seem to. I do not know if it is my internet or what.
I will upload it to 4shared in a while.

ETA - I found what my issue was. I read the size as 10kb. It's 10mb...and since I have internet that uploads at half the speed of smell...

http://www.4shared.com/file/mfwXk5Cm/li ... layer.html

A question. Is there a way in the future to add Murrine or Clearlooks engines for Puppy? This is just out of curiosity.
I can always try to compile it for Puppy. but I was just wondering if anyone else had tried.
Many OpenBox themes run on Clearlooks, so that's why I was wondering.

[ICPUG]

nooby,

Jades answered your question to me before I returned and I see you have understood it well.

Automatically copying the sfs removed the choice - you had it whether you wanted it or not!

It also did this whatever the disk format so it will copy to ntfs if that its what you have. Some, not me, are worried about this. Actually, I was a bit worried last night. I was looking for a puppy that didn't copy so as I could test on my Windows 7 machine. I did not want to give it any chance to compromise the ntfs on that system as I don't know it yet! I used 4.2 in the end. Now I know luci_238 asks the question I can move forward with confidence.

[DM was on fire!]

ICPUG, you will find that no matter what puplet you are running, they are all essentially the same on the inside. They might have different WMs or programs, but the base system is all the same.

[ttuuxxx]

[quote="DM was on fire!"
A question. Is there a way in the future to add Murrine or Clearlooks engines for Puppy? This is just out of curiosity.
I can always try to compile it for Puppy. but I was just wondering if anyone else had tried.
Many OpenBox themes run on Clearlooks, so that's why I was wondering.[/quote]
I added them to 4.2 and also 2.14X has Clearlooks, really they take almost no space at all, hmmm I'll compile them tomorrow. But it will be upto the powers that b if they get included.
ttuuxxx