Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Wed 21 Nov 2018, 02:04
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Lupu-515 Beta New Version DEC 18
Moderators: Flash, JohnMurga
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 80 of 211 [3151 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, ..., 209, 210, 211 Next
Author Message
01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 8683
Location: qld

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 21:59    Post subject:  

Clarification..

No you are not asked to reboot, nor are you required. The sfs should simply (well simply enough Wink ) be converted to a pet and then you are offered to install. The pet made is stored in /tmp so if you want you can save it on some other media. It will be flushed on reboot. Once the pet is installed (if you are using the devx as an example), type 'gcc' in a terminal and the output should be 'no input files' if the compiler is working.

You will need to save that session, or the changes will be lost

Hth

Cheers

_________________
Puppy Linux Blog - contact me for access
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6728
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 22:07    Post subject:  

Been switching back and forth between Openbox,JWM,IceWm,XFCE and Fluxbox........ WM Switcher appears to be working fine.

Booted up Luci-238 live pfix=ram on my main Linux box.Everything good on initial boot.Downloaded Chromium......forgot that Chromium doesn't run on this Athlon XP box..Still doesn't run...... Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Jim1911

Joined: 19 May 2008
Posts: 2460
Location: Texas, USA

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 22:39    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
Jim, this would be a neat experiment in the full install, installing the devx.. I'm trying it now in a frugal.. just paste the code to a terminal, it should work ok and convert to a pet, uninstallable with PPM.
Code:
sfs_installation.sh http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/luci_devx_238.sfs


Cheers
Sorry, it didn't work. Downloaded fine, but pet did not install. See attached. If you like, I'll try it again on a fresh full HD installation, but not tonight.

Cheers,
Jim
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
rjbrewer


Joined: 22 Jan 2008
Posts: 4421
Location: merriam, kansas

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 22:41    Post subject:  

01micko wrote:
I think the 'full' vs 'frugal' thing is a mindset for many.

"Oh, frugal.. doesn't that mean cheap? Oh no, I want full!"

Laughing

I can imagine many users *thinking* the above.

Cheers


I've never thought that; you might just change my mind. Laughing

People from English speaking countries don't use the word "twernt".

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twernt Laughing

_________________

Inspiron 700m, Pent.M 1.6Ghz, 1Gb ram.
Msi Wind U100, N270 1.6>2.0Ghz, 1.5Gb ram.
Eeepc 8g 701, 900Mhz, 1Gb ram.
Full installs

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
yarddog


Joined: 30 Nov 2009
Posts: 187
Location: Great Smoky Mountains, TN USA

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 22:55    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
Quote:
Additional testing needs to be done on full HD installations and upgrades.

jim1911, Agreed. I wonder what percentage of people use a full HD install? It is like an orphan in some ways--neither 01micko or I ever use it except for testing--and little enough of that. Plus Puppy was really designed for frugal, so imho full HD install was like an after thought. I know you know that I am just rambling. How much would we lose if we just said we did not support it.


Please do not take away ability to perform full install to hard drive.
I prefer this over fugual
Anytime I download a pet, before I install it, I save it to a save partition on hard drive to be used on next version of iso i.e. Lucid/Luci series
To me this is faster and works much better in environment I am using

I appreciate all the hard work and long, long hours you guys put in to provide this software to end users like me

keep up the excellent work
best regards
yarddog
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 8683
Location: qld

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 23:01    Post subject:  

rjbrewer wrote:


I've never thought that; you might just change my mind. Laughing

People from English speaking countries don't use the word "twernt".

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twernt Laughing


Laughing

tho' I did have an apostrophe in front! Laughing

Cheers!

PS: I still think full installs have there place. Example, compiling the kernel, I think Barry uses a full for that, although I did it in a frugal with lots of space.

_________________
Puppy Linux Blog - contact me for access
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
shinobar


Joined: 28 May 2009
Posts: 2673
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 23:14    Post subject: Puppy installation  

01micko wrote:
I think the 'full' vs 'frugal' thing is a mindset for many.
"Oh, frugal.. doesn't that mean cheap? Oh no, I want full!" Laughing
I can imagine many users *thinking* the above.

That is exact i think every occasion.
Puppy is easy to run the live CD, but so difficult to install.
Who can manage the 'Universal Installer' and the 'Grub config'?

The 'Bootflash' is easy, but has a trap.
The 'Bootflash' installs Puppy frugally at the top layer without creating directory.
(EDIT: The 'Bootflash' formats 'vfat', so 'save the session to the whole partition' is not offered. It occurs the user formatted 'ext2/3/4' and manually installed.)
At the first shutdown, Puppy offers to save the session to the whole partition in case it is a linux partition.
If you save the session to the whole partition, you encounter many complex problems...

That is because i propose the 3 new tools:
  • Grub4DosConfig ... to make enable booting off from NTFS
  • Winfonts ... to avoid to make swap partitions
  • Frugal Installer ... to avoid newcomers be confused with the complex 'Universal' installer

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=61796

_________________
Downloads for Puppy Linux http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
James C


Joined: 26 Mar 2009
Posts: 6728
Location: Kentucky

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 23:53    Post subject: Re: Puppy installation  

shinobar wrote:
01micko wrote:
I think the 'full' vs 'frugal' thing is a mindset for many.
"Oh, frugal.. doesn't that mean cheap? Oh no, I want full!" Laughing
I can imagine many users *thinking* the above.

That is exact i think every occasion.
Puppy is easy to run the live CD, but so difficult to install.
Who can manage the 'Universal Installer' and the 'Grub config'?]


With all due respect, I disagree.

I've installed a majority of the distros listed on Distrowatch and the Puppy installer is as easy and understandable as any other distro's installer and better than most.

Just installed PCLOS 2010.10 a couple of days ago and Mepis 8.5 about a week and a half ago.....I'd take the Puppy installer every time.And I'm not even going to bring up the Debian installer........that thing confuses me every time I do a Debian install.... Laughing

Just my opinion as a Puppy user.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Stripe

Joined: 23 Jun 2010
Posts: 658
Location: In a field. England

PostPosted: Sat 20 Nov 2010, 23:53    Post subject:  

Hi all

On downloading 238
RJBrewer sorry for this but I use the word "twernt" Embarassed Embarassed
(in the context of "it were not" = "twernt") Wink

Cheers
Stripe
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
01micko


Joined: 11 Oct 2008
Posts: 8683
Location: qld

PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 01:22    Post subject: sfs_grab  

Ok..

Jim1911 and gcmartin,

Thanks for testing the sfs_grab install method for sfs files.

I did find a couple of significant bugs in the stand alone method of installation. The method for installing to full and save-back-to CD/DVD is the same, though there are minor differences in the end result.

I have just tested with both a full install and a live save-back and the results are good Very Happy

It should now be possible to install the devx without issue, except I can't control the space checking issue at the moment (time Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes ). There is a warning to check you have enough space yourself, before downloading and an option to bale out.

One thing with the devx install, running from the prompt there are non fatal errors due to whiteout files being present in the devx, ignore them, and they were only apparent in the save-back method. Full installs (AFAIK) don't suffer from white-out problems, it's mainly a layered filesystem thing.

Support is still there when Barry's 'download_file' script is implemented... next woof I believe. I tested with and without, pumodes 2 and 77.

So, try the same command after installing this new patch, I hope it all goes well!
Code:
sfs_installation.sh http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/luci_devx_238.sfs


Cheers!
sfs_grab_patch-0.3.pet
Description 
pet

 Download 
Filename  sfs_grab_patch-0.3.pet 
Filesize  3.03 KB 
Downloaded  189 Time(s) 

_________________
Puppy Linux Blog - contact me for access
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
DaveS


Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Posts: 3726
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 02:25    Post subject:  

Running fine on my stuff. Twernt no trouble son..... Smile
_________________
Spup Frugal HD and USB
Root forever!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Lobster
Official Crustacean


Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 15239
Location: Paradox Realm

PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 03:25    Post subject:  

I did an upgrade from Luci-236 to 237 - that went well. For 238 I am starting again . . .

It all went well Smile

The setup took about 10 minutes
Why so long (I am normally set up in 5 minutes or less)?
Maybe I do more - check out a choice browser
Polish the desktop settings I prefer, add bookmarks
- ah had to set the sound . . . that may be automated in the new woof.
It just meant running the Alsa wizard. That icon bottom right - so useful
Turned on firewall (should it be on by default?) again icons bottom right helped. I also tuned on the Internet/Puppy advert blocker.
So that ten minutes includes thwarting spammers and setting up a firewall
and configuring my localised settings - I often don't bother localising.

In 10 minutes, internet connected (auto connect for Ethernet), browser selected and secured. Localised and poodled (crimped and personlised)
Bookmarks imported. 10 minutes and I am ready to face the Net
(my main focus) I could say Puppy is ready to go as soon as the desktop boots but we still do more in less time . . . Smile

The default desktop and wallpaper I feel is a balanced choice.
I do change to JWM and use that (personal preference tweaking is often the first thing new users do - to claim their cyber territory)

Tried out the chat icon - just click on 'puppy linux' when pidgin loads and spend some time helping out other Puppys. URL links can now be clicked on without severing the connection.

The SWS (Simple Wall Tester) - under desktop Settings, worked OK for me.

I have installed the Crystal ATI drivers as that was recommended - time will tell. I have installed the stable Firefox 3.6.6 to test that over the next few days

Installed the devx, that seemed OK. Looking forward to Bacon when the new Woof upgrade appears . . .

Thanks guys. So many more providing much needed feedback, pets
and support . . .
Everyone is welcome to offer their experience . . . Smile

_________________
YinYana AI Buddhism
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
pemasu


Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Posts: 5485
Location: Finland

PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 03:50    Post subject:  

Playdayz. I compiled latest deadbeef 0.4.4 for debian based Sid001. As stripped version it was 801 k. I removed libs to support same thing than earlier Iguleder`s version.

I can compile and make pet of the latest 0.4.4 if you and other has interest for it.

Just for testing, here is that deadbeef compiled in Sid001. I think that it works in luci238, at least it worked in luci237. There is more support in libs but I dont have experience if some of them would give extra funcionality. Mostly there is support for other audio systems like OSS and so on.... And the small size now would grow much larger.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
shinobar


Joined: 28 May 2009
Posts: 2673
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 04:10    Post subject: Multimedia on Luci-248  

Thanks playdayz upgrading grub4dosconfig to v1.6.2.
(still seems an issue with USB flash memory devices... Crying or Very sad )

BTW, Tested multimedia play back with Luci-248.
Gnome-mplayer:
Set the video output to 'x11' because my 'nv' driver does not work 'xv'.
Can play back almost all av files on my HDD. Smile
Some extensions are not binding with their MIME:
.asf .oga .ogv .ra .webm

Xine:
Could not play back some av files(which Gnome-mplayer can):
WMV2, VR40

_________________
Downloads for Puppy Linux http://shino.pos.to/linux/downloads.html
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website 
gcmartin

Joined: 14 Oct 2005
Posts: 6730
Location: Earth

PostPosted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 04:20    Post subject:  

yarddog wrote:
..... Anytime I download a pet, before I install it, I save it to a save partition on hard drive to be used on next version of iso i.e. Lucid/Luci series
To me this is faster and works much better in environment I am using .....
I've been a LiveCD user for years. I have alway saved PETs/SFSs/RPMs/DEVs to a permanent location (HDD folder) on local HDD as well as NAS. This ability to select the download location or the ability to drag-and-drop these to a permanent location has always been a feature of any Linux no matter if its LiveCD or frugal or full. I may be missing something, but putting files, for later reuse, on mounted folders/drives is not dependent on any particular way Puppy is booted and used.

But, I could be missing what you are referencing.

If not, before expending the time to do full-installs of these beta derivatives, you MAY want to investigate LiveCD/frugal as a simple means of using Puppy as a RAM based OS.

I'm just trying to help.

_________________
Get ACTIVE Create Circles; Do those good things which benefit people's needs!
We are all related ... Its time to show that we know this!
3 Different Puppy Search Engines or use DogPile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 80 of 211 [3151 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2, 3, ..., 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, ..., 209, 210, 211 Next
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Puppy Projects
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0860s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0174s) ][ GZIP on ]