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DaveS


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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 01:55    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
Luci 237
USB Flash install
Using JWM
In JWM Configuration Manager
If you select "or apply current GTK theme to JWM"
The tray in JWM is removed and will stay that way.

It causes the jwmrc-tray file to be empty. Nothing in it. Blank. This causes the tray to be removed because there is no data for placing the tray on the desktop.
A backup of the jwmrc-tray file is made and it has the original data.
The only way to get the tray back is to use the backup file to replace the blank one.


All puppies have been this way for a while now. Have mentioned it a few times and helped a few folks recover their tray......

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 02:01    Post subject:  

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This is the first version ;-0 I learned by examining the one Barry made for wary. Be careful. Better start with pfix=ram in case anything goes wrong. Don't forget to ***Reboot***

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/ATI_fglrx-10.10-Lucid.pet

I am hopeful that compiz will run with this driver--but that's just a hope right now.


Congratulations! Smile
I am preparing to wobble right now . . .

Existing ATI
Code:
# glxgears
IRQ's not enabled, falling back to busy waits: 2 0
7916 frames in 5.0 seconds
8549 frames in 5.0 seconds
8549 frames in 5.0 seconds
8531 frames in 5.0 seconds
8535 frames in 5.0 seconds
8542 frames in 5.0 seconds
8545 frames in 5.0 seconds
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8528 frames in 5.0 seconds
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10330 frames in 5.0 seconds
11321 frames in 5.0 seconds
11272 frames in 5.0 seconds
8599 frames in 5.0 seconds
8136 frames in 5.0 seconds
11611 frames in 5.0 seconds



new ATI
Code:
# glxgears
17851 frames in 5.0 seconds
17882 frames in 5.0 seconds
17882 frames in 5.0 seconds
17867 frames in 5.0 seconds
17885 frames in 5.0 seconds
17862 frames in 5.0 seconds
17876 frames in 5.0 seconds
17880 frames in 5.0 seconds
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19452 frames in 5.0 seconds
23707 frames in 5.0 seconds
23402 frames in 5.0 seconds
23678 frames in 5.0 seconds
23591 frames in 5.0 seconds
18443 frames in 5.0 seconds


I tried 3 tests
just installed
did not seem to install
(same speed - probably my mistake)
installed to new 'puppy pfix=ram' boot
and restarted x
- got a black screen
- well you did warn
started again and did a reboot
and new ati drivers worked

Thanks Guys

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 02:25    Post subject:  

Quote:
“ Here is an updated version of the Atheros/Attansic atl1e ethernet driver,
to add support for some additional AR8132/AR8152 chipsets. “


I thought this driver is for wired ethernet card. At least it is for me Smile. I compiled atl1e.ko also from source AR81Family-linux-v1.0.1.13.tar.gz and tested it about couple of months ago. It worked for me and I uploaded it in luci 511 thread. But i didnt get any feedback how it works for others. I am still too unsure to offer my compiled drivers for general usage.
I downloaded that tempestuous pet and my wired eth card works fine with this driver also.

I agree with shinobar, that not 100 % working driver is mostly reason to the connection problems. I have problematic ath9k for wireless. It works but in some kernel versions and puppies based on these kernel versions the network connection drops frequently. It has been problem with earlier upup version, fatdog64 and with latest wary. I had problems with it when I downloaded bones and woof and that was the reason for atl1e driver to use my wired ethernet card for that big download.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 03:13    Post subject: SAMBA in PUP5.2
Subject description: Samba
 

To all PUP5.2 contributors, let me offer an interpretation of this quote;
Mobeus wrote:
Playdayz, Ok, I'll weigh in here on Samba. ...
There is one issue with the Lupu puppies that should be addressed. Samba cannot share a printer via cups in Lupu, unless a workaround is employed, and the workaround is clunky. Something in Lupu, maybe cups, sets the wrong directory permissions on /var/spool/cups on every boot. Windows client computers trying to send a print job need to write to this directory, and the permissions will not allow it.
It implies that this problem is NOT a problem with Luci, but IS a problem with Lupu. I'm sure that I'm not the only one who noticed this from his post. Thus, PUP5.2 is Luci....not Lupu.

Thus, there is no SAMBA CUPS print issues with his SAMBA offering (nor is there one with Rcrsn51's offering).

I will post this elsewhere on the other SAMBA threads, but the primary difference between SAMBA (Shinobar's and Mobeus's implementations) AND Samba-TNG (Rcrsn51's implementation) is support, development, and documentation. Size, though a big issue among some users, to me, is secondary to stability and support when we need help. This is clearly laid out by BOTH on each of the SAMBA site. The size is not that great a difference. Full SAMBA give us all of the tools we need to interrogate the network, to identify status, to point the finger at syntax problems, and the ability to replace PDC/BDC/AD servers with a fast cheap Puppy solutions amounting to 10s of 1000s of dollars to a family manager or a SOHO or SMB company.

I believe that Shinobar and Mobeus are collaborating and there will be a LUPU resolution to the CUPS-SAMBA interfacing forthcoming. In fact, since SAMBA and TNG are so closely related, Rcrsn51 may already have seen and resolved that LUPU issue.

But, I am elated that we have Luci products that let all of us share files, folders, videos, music, games, etc with everyone else on my LAN. (I am now looking at PUP5.2 as a multimedia server for other things now that I can share stuff out for my users.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 03:26    Post subject:  

Lobster wrote:

Congratulations! Smile
I am preparing to wobble right now . . .



So.. is Lobby wobbly yet? Confused Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 03:34    Post subject: Grub4dos updated to 1.6.1  

bigpup wrote:
Grub4dos updated to 1.6.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

Thanks bigpup. And sorry to be late from me.

The main issue is Grub4dos v.1.6.0 in the Luci-237 makes wrong location for the full installed Linuxes in some case.
It occurs mainly with the Wary. But it may occur with other Puppy-5.x including Luci in some case.
Another news is v1.6.1 supports multiple Windows installed, may be the Windows recovery system.
Known issue: The 'Puppy options' entry does not work. Please edit menu.lst manually if you need.

Try the new version Grub4dos v.1.6.1!

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cthisbear

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 04:13    Post subject:  

shinobar

" Someone says some connecting tool doesn't work but another connecting tool works."

""""""""""""""

This was a specific case.
Which I have tested a few times.

Don't worry about it.
If it saves someone some misery then it's OK to use my variation
on tempestuous working solution.

And watch out mate.
I'm visiting Japan again early next year.

Last time I used The Japanese Puppy at the hotels I stayed at.
Obviously I can't read Japanese but I was so used to Puppy
I just did it near automatically to connect.

The computers were old Win2000?? machines...SLOW....
But the Japanese Puppy sped them along nicely.

I bet that they'll want to close down Akihabara when they see me.

http://wikitravel.org/en/Tokyo/Akihabara

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 06:20    Post subject:  

Quote:
So.. is Lobby wobbly yet?


Nearly Smile

Installed and using the new ATI driver

Warning this compiz version is early - may wobble your system

Then I installed this preview, early version of compiz you let me try:
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu520/compiz_xfce4-4.6.2-519-beta-Lucid.pet

Compiz was working and fast
The wobble did not work because all windows went to the top and I had no toolbar to grab and wobble . . .
on restarting (after turning on ALL special effects) Shocked I had destabilised compiz and it did not load . . .

It all reminds me of a profound Zen dictum

'If standing - stand
If sitting - sit
above all - don't wobble'

Pah! Zen masters what do they know. Wink
- here is the corrected version:

'If standing - stand
If sitting - sit
If wobbling - wobble
Above all - have fun!'

Update
OK tried KDE and compiz (for the second time)
Houston - we have wobble! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 06:32    Post subject:  

cthisbear wrote:
Solved...by tempestuous...
Acer Netbook >> eMachines eM350-21G16i
Atheros 9285 wireless on this Acer.

Well it's nice to be thanked, but I can't claim any credit for wifi driver support on that machine.


cthisbear wrote:
Download the >> atl1e-v1.0.1.14-k2.6.33.2.pet

Sure, I provided that driver, but it's for ethernet devices. Yes, it's compatible with your particular ethernet device - Atheros AR8132 PCI ID 1969:1062.
But it's unrelated to your wifi device, which is the Atheros AR9285 chip, supported in Puppy by the ath9k driver.

I suspect your problem was purely configuration-related, and the use of Pwireless2 instead of the conventional Network Wizard is the true reason for your successful outcome.
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 07:11    Post subject: Re: FlSynclient  

shinobar wrote:
You seem ran the xorgwizard. I found a problem in the xorgwizard in making this section.
The xorgwizard supports 3 types of touchpad, Elantech, Alps and Synaptics.
The lack of the SHMConfig option occurs for the Alps case.
Need to insert a line next to the line 1398 in /usr/sbin/xorgwizard (or xorg-setup):
Code:
   Option "SHMConfig" "on"\

It is the problem of woof.

Added line and flsynclient now works. Thank you shinobar! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 09:44    Post subject:  

About the Samba print server and /var/spool/cups permissions in Lupu and Luci.
Quote:
It implies that this problem is NOT a problem with Luci, but IS a problem with Lupu.

Please test this in Luci. I am without a personal computer at this time. All it takes is chmod 770 /var/spool/cups, reboot and see if the permissions persisted.
Quote:
Thus, there is no SAMBA CUPS print issues with his SAMBA offering (nor is there one with Rcrsn51's offering)

Correct. My workaround is applied transparently to the user during the Samba installation and client printing works well out of the box.

I can't speak for others but this is Linux. I would think that once a root user sets permissions on a folder that would be the end of the story. No workaround required.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 10:09    Post subject:  

Vi&Fe wrote:
Hi to all...
I have instaled the Puppy to my old, old, old P300.
Now, someone give me this ACCTON EN1660 Ethernet Adapter, and i what to connect it to my PC.
It uses an ISA slot...

Help please

Is the first time I'm using Linux

PS: sorry for my english.


can someone help me please???????
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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 10:24    Post subject:  

playdayz wrote:
Hey Rolf, Have I got a deal for you!

You should not be using the 64 bit even if your computer is because Puppy Lucid isn't. Read back a page or two and see which set of kernel sources you need. Billtoo discovered that. Or just try the one I made. Thanks.
I checked again and again but can't see my fault Embarassed . Also tried your .pet without luck Crying or Very sad .

During my search I found this here.
Code:
MOBILITY RADEON

UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE!
Support of many Mobility Radeon (like X700) was dropped by AMD after the 9.4 release: see release notes link on http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/9-4/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx. The drivers are supposed to be 'available on amd.com' but it's not true for Linux. See http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/737-28041SupportforATIMobility.aspx. No proprietary driver is available (no 3D...): you're stuck with the free / open source drivers (like radeon).
...
MOBILITY RADEON 9600/9700 (M10/M11 4E50) (or not; see ATI bugzilla)
...
The 9.4 release supports X-org only til 7.4.

I really really hope that i`ve misunderstood something or there is a unofficial solution. You may call me stupid or an idiot if I'm wrong Smile (I hope so) Wink

For the moment I'm very frustrated Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 10:47    Post subject: /var/spool/cups permissions
Subject description: Samba
 

Mobeus wrote:
Something in Lupu, maybe cups, sets the wrong directory permissions on /var/spool/cups on every boot.

I cannot follow what Mebeus saying.
The permission of /var/spool/cups is 740. I do not think it wrong.

My problem is my printer EPSON PX-720 does not work with the cups on Lucid Puppy nor on Puppy 4.3.1 with the avasys most recent driver.
It is working on the Vine Linux with maybe old avasys driver but the cup is the same as that of the Puppy 4.3.1.

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PostPosted: Wed 17 Nov 2010, 11:16    Post subject:  

Quote:
I checked again and again but can't see my fault Embarassed . Also tried your .pet without luck Crying or Very sad .

During my search I found this here.
Code:
MOBILITY RADEON

UNSUPPORTED HARDWARE!


Oops. We should back up. What kind of radeon card is it? The pet I made will only work with HD 2400 to HD 5900.

The open source radeon driver (as the message you found says) included in Lucid should work, and then Xorg_Full from Quickpet: Drivers should give hardware acceleration. The radeon driver is fully functional, just slower than the ATI driver.

Oh, yes, I was wrong about the 64 bit--it works for both.

To build your own, use this kernel source http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/puppylinux/pet-packages-lucid/kernel_src_L4-2.6.33.2-patched.sfs

Also you need the 237_devx from the first message in this thread. Both installed by Bootmanager.

It is possible to get older ATI drivers. I saw the site yesterday. I will look. Oh dang, that is old windows versions. It still might be worth searching. I saw a message that 9.3 was the last to support some mobility radeons.

Older versions here -> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/previous/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx

Start with a fresh install just in case.

Install the kernel sources and devx as sfs's with Menu -> System -> Bootmanager and reboot

Change permissions on the ati file. Right-click Permissions. Yes

Open a terminal in that folder. Right click, Window, terminal here

in the terminal enter ./ and the name of the ati driver. ('such as ./ati_driver_installer....') that's period slash to begin.

Good luck
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