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nooby

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 14:25    Post subject:  Computer attacked? Do logs log such? [Solved]  

I hope it is solved. I use an old optic mouse and it could be that it has glitches. I have no idea how one test such but it may create the behavior I describe.

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Two times now the computer act as if someone has control of it via the network.

Looked similar both times but it could be something else.

Suddenly the Browser are not under my control. The page goes to the bottom as if somebody glance through the page from top to bottom.

Then when I try to go to Menu Shutdown Power off then the whole page start to act and all buttons flicker and make it impossible to shut off so I used ctrl+alt+backspace and that repaired this behavior and then it took weeks until it happen again today.

So I want to know if I can look in some blog that hopefully got saved before me did a shutdown.

Do there exist some program that can be in background and look for this behavior and register what IP address or whatever so one can know whom is doing this?

Or can it be some odd glitch getting triggered suddenly that explains the odd behavior? Spike from mains AC neighbor starting a vacuum cleaner or something creating havoc???

It feels really scary. What is going on?

Yes I had a Router but I lost connect to internet each 30 minutes so I did not continue with it.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 15:53    Post subject:  

What about firewalls? Activated, or not?
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PostPosted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 16:51    Post subject:  

Yes me check that it is active each time. I should have mention that
but took it for granted that all of us use it.

so what can it be. Do you recognize the odd behavior?

Sleepy so I go to bed now. Red answers after a nights sleep.
Hope somebody get what is happening.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 20:39    Post subject:  

"Firestarter" firewall can show attempts of connection; there are lots of programs for test of PC hardware devices in "UBCD-503" CD (MemTest has a complex of useful tests); probably there are a few lines in the motherboard's book about compatibility of the hardware devices; it's good to have an internet connection's apparatus filter of the electricity and UPS for the PC; it's good to have a super toilet bowl for rewarding(washing away) the armed uglified pending unrecognizability eyed excrements.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 00:32    Post subject:  

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"Firestarter" firewall can show attempts of connection;


Where do I look then? I am not familiar with how one do what you suggest.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 01:36    Post subject:  

About "Firestarter" firewall:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=452687#452687

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 01:40    Post subject: Re: Computer attacked? Do the logs register such?  

nooby wrote:

It feels really scary. What is going on?


It's Fredrik Reinfeldt! He found out who you voted for and now he's going to assimilate you! Evil or Very Mad

Seriously, it's just a glitch. It's happened to me a few times. I wouldn't worry about it.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 01:55    Post subject:  

I voted for the FP so M feels abandoned? Smile

Okay you guys makes dun of my naive posting.

How do you know it is just a glitch. Is that guessing or intuition or just gut feeling.

Have you seen any log that says it is a glitch. some developer that say it is a known bug or what?

How does one prevent it from happening again. What triggers the glitch if that is what it is?

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 02:40    Post subject:  

nooby wrote:

How do you know it is just a glitch. Is that guessing or intuition or just gut feeling.

I think it's my old crappy mouse. Sometimes the pointer jumps around like crazy all over the screen. The electrons get lost on their way to the cpu. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 03:14    Post subject:  

Yes your mouse can have that glitch.

But the thing with my computer behaves differently. Not easy to describe.

I am in one of the browsers. Seamonkey or Firefox.

Suddenly a human or a program take over control and look around.

It scroll the page from up to down as if looking through it and then
when me want to shut down the browser and go to menu and shut down the computer it does not let me do this.

So the only way to gain control is to do a ctrl+alt+backspace and then writing reboot at that prompt coming up.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 03:34    Post subject:  

I don't really know what causes the glitch you're having. It's most likely software related.
nooby wrote:

Suddenly a human or a program take over control and look around.

This scenario is higly unlikely.

It's all about how paranoid you're determined to be.
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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 03:55    Post subject:  

Yes, I get you see it that way.

but I am asking a specific question and your answers IMO derails it by playing it down.

I want to look at logs or use a program that can show what actually did happen. where can I look for clues on what did happen?

which program caused it if it was not a live human being doing it.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 05:25    Post subject:  

Nooby,

To say all I wish to say might take many paragraphs and a few posts, so I'll approach it that way.

A primary cause of paranoia is having things on one's computer one doesn't want others to know about. If I want to set up a computer in such a way people will never figure it out, I can.

Anyone can and you can also.

Ideally, you should be able to hack my computer and come back very disappointed because you didn't learn a thing or get any worthwhile information from it.

I run as root when running Linux and one day I might get around to putting a password on it.

I hope I've communicated one important concept to you. If you have questions, ask.


Kind regards,


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 05:39    Post subject:  

Firewalls

Originally a firewall was to prevent unwanted, unauthorized or illicit inbound connections.

I don't use a firewall for Linux, but I would if I knew of one that monitored, tracked and controlled outbound connections.

My firewall is simply the NAT router which probably runs an old version of Linux which is too dumb to hack.

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PostPosted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 05:42    Post subject:  

Bruce thanks for caring about my problem.

I do understand what you wrote there. Such things are important too.

But this time me want to solve specific things happening.

The computer has acted in a way it have not done since 2008 up to
some week ago.

So either it is a hardware issue, glitch due to spike from the mains or a trojan keylogger or a program somebody left on it after a break in or this was the break in wanting to snoop around or place some keylogger there.

So you say:
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If you have questions, ask.


Yes I have a specific question.

Has you computer acted like I described. What caused it?

Have you read here or on other linux same behavior?
What did they think it is?

What kind of search word can I use. I fail to find a good word for the behavior.

The page is scrolling to the bottom of the html page and then the cursor and menu is taken over by a program or a live person and the only way to gain back control is to do ctrl+alt+backspace and then do reboot into other puppy and then it does not happen again until days later.

So sure it can be a hardware glitch something but have never read about that odd behavior before

How can I look in logs to find a clue what did happen.

I use the PB laptop in sig

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