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clarf

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 614 Location: The old Lone Wolf
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Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 23:20 Post subject:
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Hi,
Just found that executing the command "depmod-FULL" solves the problems with initrd modules not loaded by modprobe, and of course solves the usb errors shown when xwin is initiated.
A "depmod -a" don´t do the work, the rc.sysinit script executes "depmod" at line 181 but it should be replaced by depmod-FULL.
Barry already reported problems using busybox depmod applet (http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00861) with 64MB or less RAM systems. Later, he compiled a new Busybox 1.14.2 and the depmod applet worked in that low RAM conditions, he tested modprobe and modinfo and they worked fine with the 'modules.' files created by the new depmod applet.
But he doesn´t mention that depmod applet fails to add the lib/modules/$KERNVER/initrd modules to the dependency file (this file is later used by modprobe to automatically load the correct module). Any initiramfs module copied to the main system will fail to load with modprobe.
I wonder if Barry haven´t seen this problem, are other Woof builds having the same problem?.
Are you using the last Woof build ttuuxxx?. I´m new to the Woof system and their related bugs, but I´ll be watching any news.
Greetings,
clarf
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ttuuxxx

Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 11193 Location: Ontario Canada,Sydney Australia
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Posted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 02:28 Post subject:
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Hi clarf thanks for the fix , Yes I'm using the latest woof, I updated to it, maybe Barry hasn't updated the script yet?
Thanks for that once again:)
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Stripe
Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 658 Location: In a field. England
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Posted: Tue 21 Sep 2010, 10:36 Post subject:
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Hi all
Thanks Clarif, I managed to change line 181 in the rc.sysinit script from depmod to depmod-FULL (technical for me LOL)
just testing pupshot out with 432 as it seems a lot better and easier to use than mpaints screen capture.
Cheers
Stripe
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8-bit

Joined: 03 Apr 2007 Posts: 3425 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 05:43 Post subject:
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Abiword crashes on selecting "Create or Modify Styles"
I had a version of Puppy 431 SCSI installed frugally with same kernel (Barry's Creation), and I upgraded Abiword using a Pet of a later version.
But currently my mind is blank and I cannot remember who did it.
Also, my 250meg SCSI zip drive was recognized when I inserted a disk.
And my sound card ws not recognized until I ran alsawizard.
Other than that, it is good so far.
Point of interest in Seamonkey! In the lower right hand corner is a word that says Disabled. If you right-click on it, it enables Adblock.
I do not know why I mentioned Abiword though as it seems most users never use it.
I have though.
Will have to try printing to CUPS PDF and see if it works.
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sullysat

Joined: 16 Oct 2007 Posts: 367 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Wed 22 Sep 2010, 07:12 Post subject:
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I use Abiword quite a bit and have the same issue with the standard 4.3.1 version. If there's a fix or an update that can take care of this, I'd really like to know what it is.
Thanks for mentioning this 8-bit
Sully
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 6730 Location: Earth
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Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 01:13 Post subject:
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Couple Sundays ago, I posted 2 problems: sr0 and sr1 icon fails when a CD/DVD is loaded and you try to see contents on desktop.
AND
I do not see SCSI drives on a "non-raid controller.
Anyone know why? Are these things suppose to work???
Is there any information that I can gather that could/would shed light on either of these?
Thanks in advance.
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Stripe
Joined: 23 Jun 2010 Posts: 658 Location: In a field. England
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Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 18:20 Post subject:
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Deadbeef audio player is looking good installs straight from its Deb file (1010k)
Stripe
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 22:27 Post subject:
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Not a big thing, but on most reboots I need to reset my internet connection.....frugal install on old P3 with wired ethernet.
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clarf

Joined: 13 Jun 2007 Posts: 614 Location: The old Lone Wolf
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Posted: Sun 26 Sep 2010, 00:29 Post subject:
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Stripe wrote: | Hi all
Thanks Clarif, I managed to change line 181 in the rc.sysinit script from depmod to depmod-FULL (technical for me LOL)
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Cheers Stripe,
It´s just a temporal workaround, when we were searching the real cause of the problem. As Barry stated at his blog (and I totally agree) the full fix is update busybox to the latest pet used for other woof builds.
clarf
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Wed 29 Sep 2010, 17:26 Post subject:
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Still testing..................
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Fri 15 Oct 2010, 01:20 Post subject:
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James C wrote: | Not a big thing, but on most reboots I need to reset my internet connection.....frugal install on old P3 with wired ethernet. |
Just to update.........problem appears to be solved by switching from SNS to the Classic Network Wizard.Connection is persistent now.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 6717 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Sat 30 Oct 2010, 01:21 Post subject:
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Posting from 432 right now, run it some everyday and still working fine.
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PupGeek
Joined: 06 Sep 2009 Posts: 388
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Posted: Sun 31 Oct 2010, 09:15 Post subject:
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I have a Dell Poweredge 1800 server that I intend to repurpose for extra storage and processing power (i.e. distributed rendering, etc.). I tried this puplet and it booted up fine with no problems, video or otherwise. It did not see my scsi hard drives. I have 4 of them and they are each 73 GB. They were originally connected to a RAID controller and I disconnected them from there and plugged them into the motherboard scsi port, as I intend to use them independently. Right now, I am nowhere near my server, so I cannot obtain specs on my particular unit. I am providing a link to Dell's spec sheet for this model, however.
http://www.andovercg.com/datasheets/dell-poweredge-1800-server.pdf
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tempestuous
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 5468 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon 01 Nov 2010, 11:38 Post subject:
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First let me give you some technical background:
- all versions of Puppy support SCSI ... but not booting from SCSI, unless you have a special version with modified initrd - like "4.3.2-SCSI" which you have obviously found.
- Puppy supports RAID, but again, booting from RAID will usually involve a customised initrd.
PupGeek wrote: | It did not see my scsi hard drives. I have 4 of them and they are each 73 GB. They were originally connected to a RAID controller and I disconnected them from there and plugged them into the motherboard scsi port |
From the Dell spec sheet and Google it appears that your onboard SCSI adaptor is LSI Logic 1020/1030 Fusion-MPT.
Sadly, this is one of the few SCSI devices not enabled in the Puppy kernel configuration. It would be relatively easy to add this driver ("mptspi") to any Puppy version ... but if you want to boot via this interface it becomes a more complex undertaking to add the new driver to the initrd and rebuild the Puppy CD image.
Here's a simpler solution: get youself a SATA hard drive (an old one will do), connect it to the motherboard, and install Puppy to this drive. I would use Puppy 5.1.
Reconnect the 4x SCSI drives to the RAID adapter, and these drives are now purely for storage. A RAID adapter is a worthwhile asset. If you want maximum storage capacity, configure the RAID bios for RAID-0. The 4 SCSC drives will be seen as a single 280GB drive.
Or if you want full mirror backup, configure the RAID bios for RAID-1. Obviously the usable size will be 140GB.
Apparently your SCSI RAID adapter is an LSI PERC 4. This is a full hardware RAID adapter, which Puppy supports via the megaraid driver.
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gcmartin
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 6730 Location: Earth
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Posted: Mon 01 Nov 2010, 12:04 Post subject:
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Along with Adaptec, LSI is another of the Controller chipsets used in onboard SCSI motherboards. This is very PREVALENT in Dell, IBM, HP. and, I believe, MAC servers which have the controllers (raid, too) built into the motherboards.
Shouldn't PUPs that address Retro and SCSI know this? It would be nice. So far in my 2 years of PUPs I have NOT found one PUP LiveCD that contains features which "see" server system SCSI drives. I believe someone(s) are building and supporting their PUPs, but, it NOT for any of the DELL/IBM servers I've testing them on.
Hope this helps anyone who attempts to use PUPs on server motherboards.
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