4.3.2-SCSI 2.6.30.5 full older modem support
- ttuuxxx
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Thanks scsijon looking forward to more results, I've been building a new backend for it, and well its been complicated with gtk issues with compiling but I'm getting around it
ttuuxxx
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Well I compiled the new backend, should extend the shelf-life of 4 series for a couple of years. It will take some time to put it together because I have to work mon-fri and usually pretty tired when I get home so I kind of slowdown during the week, nevertheless I'll plug away at it, If others could find fixes etc it would help to advance this version much quicker. People were asking for months for 4 series to move ahead, well this is your chance.
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Hi ttuuxxx
Wlll try my best (even though I have the technical abilities of a wet paper bag)
tried installing the xorg_xvesa-7.3-1.pet (got it from from the pet 4 folder of woof when I was remastering 4 to try and see if I could get xvesa working better) dont think it makes any difference to xvesa
Hope this helps
Stripe
Wlll try my best (even though I have the technical abilities of a wet paper bag)
tried installing the xorg_xvesa-7.3-1.pet (got it from from the pet 4 folder of woof when I was remastering 4 to try and see if I could get xvesa working better) dont think it makes any difference to xvesa
Hope this helps
Stripe
Hi,
I booted from CD and everything works fine in my old HP L2000 laptop, I have network, sound and Xorg. Non critical errors found, only some minor errors and warnings at xerrs.log:
A small error with powerapplet:
Some errors shown with dmesg for lp module:
Not found any sound or network problem with 4.3.2. For people with issues please post your /tmp/bootsysinit.log and /tmp/bootkernel.log files.
Greetings,
clarf
I booted from CD and everything works fine in my old HP L2000 laptop, I have network, sound and Xorg. Non critical errors found, only some minor errors and warnings at xerrs.log:
They are loaded when JWM is loading the swallow applications, it's the same info that I get when start these applications from term.killall: freememapplet: no process killed
killall: powerapplet: no process killed
kill: usage: kill [-s sigspec | -n signum | -sigspec] [pid | job]... or kill -l [sigspec]
A small error with powerapplet:
Also found some errors about usb-core and usb-hid missing files, right when startx (xwin) is executed. But lsmod and dmesg show they are actually loaded, I must search the cause of this warning. (I wonder if some usb devices could have problems to load...)powerapplet: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by powerapplet)
Some errors shown with dmesg for lp module:
Xorg "ati" driver run but seems unstable...# lp: Unknown symbol parport_unregister_device
bash: lp:: command not found
# lp: Unknown symbol parport_unregister_driver
bash: lp:: command not found
# lp: Unknown symbol parport_negotiate
bash: lp:: command not found
# p: Unknown symbol parport_claim
bash: p:: command not found
# lp: Unknown symbol parp
Not found any sound or network problem with 4.3.2. For people with issues please post your /tmp/bootsysinit.log and /tmp/bootkernel.log files.
Greetings,
clarf
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Hi clarf nice to have you with us I appreciate you lending us a hand
Thanks for helping.
Also thanks Stripe for giving it a shot
ttuuxxx
Thanks for helping.
Also thanks Stripe for giving it a shot
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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I am afraid I will be sticking to 4.3.2 V3 because the idea of not upgrading was so I not have to transfer/update all of my configuration. This was so I would get on/start my GCSES. The only reason for me to use 4.3.* in the future is if it is more compatible with hardware I will be using the most. Other wise if I am going to do all of that work I will put my effort into getting my work into Woof and switching to puppy 5. Sorry for not telling you before. I need to test the compatibility of Lupu with my computers though it should me fine. So you should assume I wont be helping you with this one .
I upgraded SeaMonkey in 4.3.2 V3 and have not noticed it being any slower in a few min test I did.
I upgraded SeaMonkey in 4.3.2 V3 and have not noticed it being any slower in a few min test I did.
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That's ok woof 4 series will take a lot less resources than woof 5 series, currently pup-432.sfs <--78MB, I don't think it will be much over 83MB when I'm done updating it, Plus it will have a much newer backend compared to 5 series. Kind of good reasons to stick with 4 seriesabushcrafter wrote:I am afraid I will be sticking to 4.3.2 V3 because the idea of not upgrading was so I not have to transfer/update all of my configuration. This was so I would get on/start my GCSES. The only reason for me to use 4.3.* in the future is if it is more compatible with hardware I will be using the most. Other wise if I am going to do all of that work I will put my effort into getting my work into Woof and switching to puppy 5. Sorry for not telling you before.
I upgraded SeaMonkey in 4.3.2 V3 and have not noticed it being any slower in a few min test I did.
I'll also update the some of devx later on.
ttuuxxx
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http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Now you made the decision hard .ttuuxxx wrote:That's ok woof 4 series will take a lot less resources than woof 5 series, currently pup-432.sfs <--78MB, I don't think it will be much over 83MB when I'm done updating it, Plus it will have a much newer backend compared to 5 series. Kind of good reasons to stick with 4 seriesabushcrafter wrote:I am afraid I will be sticking to 4.3.2 V3 because the idea of not upgrading was so I not have to transfer/update all of my configuration. This was so I would get on/start my GCSES. The only reason for me to use 4.3.* in the future is if it is more compatible with hardware I will be using the most. Other wise if I am going to do all of that work I will put my effort into getting my work into Woof and switching to puppy 5. Sorry for not telling you before.
I upgraded SeaMonkey in 4.3.2 V3 and have not noticed it being any slower in a few min test I did.
I'll also update the some of devx later on.
ttuuxxx
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My system wont display the data CDs in the CD drives
Downloaded and MD5 the ISO. Burned to CD under PUP511.
Rebooted the PC and am on desktop.
I cannot display the contents of the CD drives. (this system has 2 SATA DVD readers.)
When I click the sr0 or the sr1 icon at the bottom of the desktop, the Pmount facility launches to the desktop. When I click the Mount button, I get a RED messagebox whose text is "ERROR: unable to mount sr1".
The mount command works fine in a terminal window.
Just a note
Rebooted the PC and am on desktop.
I cannot display the contents of the CD drives. (this system has 2 SATA DVD readers.)
When I click the sr0 or the sr1 icon at the bottom of the desktop, the Pmount facility launches to the desktop. When I click the Mount button, I get a RED messagebox whose text is "ERROR: unable to mount sr1".
The mount command works fine in a terminal window.
Just a note
scsijon-box2
sorry, couldn't wait, should be in the garden pulling weeds , but.... puppy rules!
box 2 has ati video card (gigabyte 4350), dialup modem card (winmodem from netcomm), and a usb2 card
lspci here (doesn't seem to have all info others do, like what they mean)
---------------------------------
00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:2770 (rev 02)
00:01.0 Class 0604: 8086:2771 (rev 02)
00:1c.0 Class 0604: 8086:27d0 (rev 01)
00:1c.1 Class 0604: 8086:27d2 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 Class 0c03: 8086:27c8 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 Class 0c03: 8086:27c9 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 Class 0c03: 8086:27ca (rev 01)
00:1d.3 Class 0c03: 8086:27cb (rev 01)
00:1d.7 Class 0c03: 8086:27cc (rev 01)
00:1e.0 Class 0604: 8086:244e (rev e1)
00:1f.0 Class 0601: 8086:27b8 (rev 01)
00:1f.1 Class 0101: 8086:27df (rev 01)
00:1f.2 Class 0101: 8086:27c0 (rev 01)
00:1f.3 Class 0c05: 8086:27da (rev 01)
01:00.0 Class 0300: 1002:954f
01:00.1 Class 0403: 1002:aa38
04:00.0 Class 0780: 11c1:044c (rev 02)
-----------------------
Problems found:
1/ on install noticed on first screen (f1):
------------
Login [15166]: root login on 'tty1"
Warning: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernal/drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko': no such file or directory
Fatal: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/ketnal/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbhid.ko' No such file or directory.
2/ Video installed ok in vesa
In x-org seemed to probe ok, but when it restarted X, colours were mixed and fonts, "backlit"
Dropped back to # and retried with xorgconfig, same result, eventually worked out every second drop to # and xwin start was bad
Will try selecting instead of probe and see what happens (will amend this when tried)
ammendment:
tried selections for all three ati combinations and vesa, all fail and don't select frequencies, ended up going back to the xvesa from first screen of xorgwizard, which works marvelously. BTW, this just drops you back to the prompt, there is no message to type in xwin to start, maybe a line or two is needed for newbies.....
3/ Modem found and initialised first time, but the initialization took a lot of time (maybe a warning needs to be inserted)
4/ package installs ok both online and from memstick
more later, I must get some work done out there
regards
scsijon
edit:ammeded for video
box 2 has ati video card (gigabyte 4350), dialup modem card (winmodem from netcomm), and a usb2 card
lspci here (doesn't seem to have all info others do, like what they mean)
---------------------------------
00:00.0 Class 0600: 8086:2770 (rev 02)
00:01.0 Class 0604: 8086:2771 (rev 02)
00:1c.0 Class 0604: 8086:27d0 (rev 01)
00:1c.1 Class 0604: 8086:27d2 (rev 01)
00:1d.0 Class 0c03: 8086:27c8 (rev 01)
00:1d.1 Class 0c03: 8086:27c9 (rev 01)
00:1d.2 Class 0c03: 8086:27ca (rev 01)
00:1d.3 Class 0c03: 8086:27cb (rev 01)
00:1d.7 Class 0c03: 8086:27cc (rev 01)
00:1e.0 Class 0604: 8086:244e (rev e1)
00:1f.0 Class 0601: 8086:27b8 (rev 01)
00:1f.1 Class 0101: 8086:27df (rev 01)
00:1f.2 Class 0101: 8086:27c0 (rev 01)
00:1f.3 Class 0c05: 8086:27da (rev 01)
01:00.0 Class 0300: 1002:954f
01:00.1 Class 0403: 1002:aa38
04:00.0 Class 0780: 11c1:044c (rev 02)
-----------------------
Problems found:
1/ on install noticed on first screen (f1):
------------
Login [15166]: root login on 'tty1"
Warning: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernal/drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko': no such file or directory
Fatal: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/ketnal/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbhid.ko' No such file or directory.
2/ Video installed ok in vesa
In x-org seemed to probe ok, but when it restarted X, colours were mixed and fonts, "backlit"
Dropped back to # and retried with xorgconfig, same result, eventually worked out every second drop to # and xwin start was bad
Will try selecting instead of probe and see what happens (will amend this when tried)
ammendment:
tried selections for all three ati combinations and vesa, all fail and don't select frequencies, ended up going back to the xvesa from first screen of xorgwizard, which works marvelously. BTW, this just drops you back to the prompt, there is no message to type in xwin to start, maybe a line or two is needed for newbies.....
3/ Modem found and initialised first time, but the initialization took a lot of time (maybe a warning needs to be inserted)
4/ package installs ok both online and from memstick
more later, I must get some work done out there
regards
scsijon
edit:ammeded for video
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Some minor items to fix....
Gparted - swapoff function fails with this error message.
swapoff: invalid option -- v
BusyBox v1.15.0.svn (2009-07-25 18:23:53 GMT-8) multi-call binary
Usage: swapoff [-a] [DEVICE]
Stop swapping on DEVICE
Options:
-a Stop swapping on all swap devices
Also the inclusion of ntpdate is useful but /etc/services file is missing these entries for ntp
ntp 123/tcp
ntp 123/udp
Regards C Bumkin
Gparted - swapoff function fails with this error message.
swapoff: invalid option -- v
BusyBox v1.15.0.svn (2009-07-25 18:23:53 GMT-8) multi-call binary
Usage: swapoff [-a] [DEVICE]
Stop swapping on DEVICE
Options:
-a Stop swapping on all swap devices
Also the inclusion of ntpdate is useful but /etc/services file is missing these entries for ntp
ntp 123/tcp
ntp 123/udp
Regards C Bumkin
A newer backend for 4.3.2, Great ttuuxxx a smart move...
About the usb modules errors, If I do a rmmod for all the usb modules (usbcore, usbhid, usb_storage, etc) and then I try to reload them, I get the same error:
modprobe should load these "transferred" initrd modules that are not located in the zp432305.sfs FileSystem, that´s the way it work in other Puppies to save some space and avoid use of redundant files already present in initrd. But I don´t see a custom modprobe script like in earlier Puppies...
I Should read Woof documentation about it. There is no reason to copy initrd modules if modprobe doesn´t use them, there is some weird bug here.
Greetings,
clarf
About the usb modules errors, If I do a rmmod for all the usb modules (usbcore, usbhid, usb_storage, etc) and then I try to reload them, I get the same error:
Those modules exists and are loaded by initrd at boot (for this reason they are shown by lsmod), later these files in initrd are copied to '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/initrd/, but actually they are not seen by the modprobe command after Puppy transfers control from initrd.Warning: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernel/drivers/usb/core/usbcore.ko': no such file or directory
Fatal: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernel/drivers/hid/usbhid/usbhid.ko' No such file or directory.
Fatal: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.30.5/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko' No such file or directory.
...
modprobe should load these "transferred" initrd modules that are not located in the zp432305.sfs FileSystem, that´s the way it work in other Puppies to save some space and avoid use of redundant files already present in initrd. But I don´t see a custom modprobe script like in earlier Puppies...
I Should read Woof documentation about it. There is no reason to copy initrd modules if modprobe doesn´t use them, there is some weird bug here.
Greetings,
clarf
Hi all
Regarding the usb module errors, they do not happen on a full install.
Have been having a good look at the video/audio, and it is as good as it gets, (seems slightly better using smplayer-0.6.7-i386.pet, but that needs the qt4-4.3.2.pet about 7mb for the pair, and I dont think gxine and pmusic would get anywhere near that)
Have been looking for other options, to make the guis more user friendly and better looking while still retaining the quality and size but havent found anything yet..
Stripe
Regarding the usb module errors, they do not happen on a full install.
Have been having a good look at the video/audio, and it is as good as it gets, (seems slightly better using smplayer-0.6.7-i386.pet, but that needs the qt4-4.3.2.pet about 7mb for the pair, and I dont think gxine and pmusic would get anywhere near that)
Have been looking for other options, to make the guis more user friendly and better looking while still retaining the quality and size but havent found anything yet..
Stripe
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Have you tried my Puppy Linux Discussion Forum :: View topic - [PET] SMplayer 0.6.9.Stripe wrote:Hi all
Regarding the usb module errors, they do not happen on a full install.
Have been having a good look at the video/audio, and it is as good as it gets, (seems slightly better using smplayer-0.6.7-i386.pet, but that needs the qt4-4.3.2.pet about 7mb for the pair, and I dont think gxine and pmusic would get anywhere near that)
Have been looking for other options, to make the guis more user friendly and better looking while still retaining the quality and size but havent found anything yet..
Stripe
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Hi,
Just found that executing the command "depmod-FULL" solves the problems with initrd modules not loaded by modprobe, and of course solves the usb errors shown when xwin is initiated.
A "depmod -a" don´t do the work, the rc.sysinit script executes "depmod" at line 181 but it should be replaced by depmod-FULL.
Barry already reported problems using busybox depmod applet (http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00861) with 64MB or less RAM systems. Later, he compiled a new Busybox 1.14.2 and the depmod applet worked in that low RAM conditions, he tested modprobe and modinfo and they worked fine with the 'modules.' files created by the new depmod applet.
But he doesn´t mention that depmod applet fails to add the lib/modules/$KERNVER/initrd modules to the dependency file (this file is later used by modprobe to automatically load the correct module). Any initiramfs module copied to the main system will fail to load with modprobe.
I wonder if Barry haven´t seen this problem, are other Woof builds having the same problem?.
Are you using the last Woof build ttuuxxx?. I´m new to the Woof system and their related bugs, but I´ll be watching any news.
Greetings,
clarf
Just found that executing the command "depmod-FULL" solves the problems with initrd modules not loaded by modprobe, and of course solves the usb errors shown when xwin is initiated.
A "depmod -a" don´t do the work, the rc.sysinit script executes "depmod" at line 181 but it should be replaced by depmod-FULL.
Barry already reported problems using busybox depmod applet (http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=00861) with 64MB or less RAM systems. Later, he compiled a new Busybox 1.14.2 and the depmod applet worked in that low RAM conditions, he tested modprobe and modinfo and they worked fine with the 'modules.' files created by the new depmod applet.
But he doesn´t mention that depmod applet fails to add the lib/modules/$KERNVER/initrd modules to the dependency file (this file is later used by modprobe to automatically load the correct module). Any initiramfs module copied to the main system will fail to load with modprobe.
I wonder if Barry haven´t seen this problem, are other Woof builds having the same problem?.
Are you using the last Woof build ttuuxxx?. I´m new to the Woof system and their related bugs, but I´ll be watching any news.
Greetings,
clarf
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Hi clarf thanks for the fix , Yes I'm using the latest woof, I updated to it, maybe Barry hasn't updated the script yet?
Thanks for that once again:)
ttuuxxx
Thanks for that once again:)
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Hi all
Thanks Clarif, I managed to change line 181 in the rc.sysinit script from depmod to depmod-FULL (technical for me LOL)
just testing pupshot out with 432 as it seems a lot better and easier to use than mpaints screen capture.
Cheers
Stripe
Thanks Clarif, I managed to change line 181 in the rc.sysinit script from depmod to depmod-FULL (technical for me LOL)
just testing pupshot out with 432 as it seems a lot better and easier to use than mpaints screen capture.
Cheers
Stripe
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Abiword crashes on selecting "Create or Modify Styles"
I had a version of Puppy 431 SCSI installed frugally with same kernel (Barry's Creation), and I upgraded Abiword using a Pet of a later version.
But currently my mind is blank and I cannot remember who did it.
Also, my 250meg SCSI zip drive was recognized when I inserted a disk.
And my sound card ws not recognized until I ran alsawizard.
Other than that, it is good so far.
Point of interest in Seamonkey! In the lower right hand corner is a word that says Disabled. If you right-click on it, it enables Adblock.
I do not know why I mentioned Abiword though as it seems most users never use it.
I have though.
Will have to try printing to CUPS PDF and see if it works.
I had a version of Puppy 431 SCSI installed frugally with same kernel (Barry's Creation), and I upgraded Abiword using a Pet of a later version.
But currently my mind is blank and I cannot remember who did it.
Also, my 250meg SCSI zip drive was recognized when I inserted a disk.
And my sound card ws not recognized until I ran alsawizard.
Other than that, it is good so far.
Point of interest in Seamonkey! In the lower right hand corner is a word that says Disabled. If you right-click on it, it enables Adblock.
I do not know why I mentioned Abiword though as it seems most users never use it.
I have though.
Will have to try printing to CUPS PDF and see if it works.