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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 14:17    Post subject:  

You can't replace the kernel easily, it's quite complicated - here.

Both kernels are pretty much the same, so there's no reason to do this unless you really want the extra optimizations Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 15:09    Post subject: Puppy Squeeze 009 Development
Subject description: nvidia pet works
 

I installed inpu-001.iso to a flash drive with bootflash.
Installed the nvidia.pet.

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
32695 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6538.935 FPS
50600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10119.988 FPS
63044 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12608.689 FPS
53668 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10733.454 FPS
54360 frames in 5.0 seconds = 10871.868 FPS
35717 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7143.334 FPS
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
nvidia

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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Version
Kernel Linux 2.6.32.26 (i686)
Compiled #2 SMP Tue Nov 23 21:36:48 GMT-8 2010
C Library GNU C Library version 2.11.2 (stable)
Default C Compiler GNU C Compiler version 4.4.5 (Debian 4.4.5-Cool
Distribution Puppy Linux 0.00

OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 260.19.21
Direct Rendering Yes

The welcome screen comes up every bootup.
I installed flash in iceweasel and the cnn and youtube videos play
okay but you have to click on the logo in the video to get it going.

Just had a quick look, will play more later Smile
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Iguleder


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 15:15    Post subject:  

Yep, it's FlashBlock, comes pre-installed. I think I'll remove it ... more choice.

Thanks for the input - I removed the welcome screen because the Woof one is good enough (and I know what went wrong - I renamed the script, so it no longer deletes itself) Laughing

EDIT: I want to the modularity experiment till Monday - make an ISO with a zdrv and make a SFS of xorg_high, Iceape and the fixes. My size estimatation is 130-135 MB.

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 15:39    Post subject:  

inpu 001, could not connect to wired network. Hardinfo sees my ethernet card but network tools don't.
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James C


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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 16:26    Post subject:  

tubeguy wrote:
inpu 001, could not connect to wired network. Hardinfo sees my ethernet card but network tools don't.


Thought I was in the same boat....no interface was detected here either(wired dsl).SNS was a dead end but was able to use Network wizard to manually load the necessary module and get online. Posting from 001 now.
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 17:37    Post subject:  

Insidious worked fine on our older z500 laptop.

Luci-239 got further on the z500 laptop here than on my CF-29 but still troubles - it would not recognize the wireless nic BCM5705.

dpup009 works fine.

Notes: I was able to load the Seamonkey 2.0.10 SFS on all of them. I added the WINE 1.3.7 SFS but haven't tested it yet.

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 20:30    Post subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
Uploaded a "release candidate", it's here. The directory also has the nvidia driver.
New frugal installation is working great. Amazing speed and stability and everything, including the nvidia driver, video playback, and scanning just works well. This extra software has been installed and works well. A pleasant surprise was the packages that work on Lucid, and also Xiphos using the ppm.
    === /initrd/tmp/EXTRASFSS ===
    amarok-1.4-lucid.sfs
    Bibletime_lucid-2.7.2a.sfs
    java_jre-6u22-Lucid-sfs4.sfs
    LibreOffice_3.3.0_beta2_sfs4.sfs
    === User Installed Pkgs (PPM) ===
    Package Description
    nvidia-260.19.21-k2.6.32.26 nvidia gpu drivers
    PupApps-1.1_BETA3 PupApps launcher
    PupClockset-1.0 PupClockset utility
    PupControl-1.0 PupControl panel
    PupShutdown-1.4 PupShutdown manager
    PupSnap-1.1 PupSnap screen capture
    scrot_0.8-13 scrot CLI screen capture
    gnome-games-Lite_2.26.1-i486-dpup Gnome Games
    libgtkhtml3.14-19-3.30.3-1 HTML rendering/editing library - runtime files
    libgtkhtml-editor-common-3.30.3-1 HTML rendering/editing library - editor widget data
    libicu44-4.4.2-1 International Components for Unicode
    xiphos-3.1.3-3 environment for Bible reading, study, and research
    libclucene0ldbl-0.9.21b-2+b1 library for full-featured text search engine (runtime)
    libgtkhtml-editor0-3.30.3-1 HTML rendering/editing library - editor widget
    libsword8-1.6.1+dfsg-2+b1 API/library for bible software
    xiphos-data-3.1.3-3 data files for Xiphos Bible study software
    xiphos-3.1.3-3 environment for Bible reading, study, and research
    pwidgets-2.3.1 Pwidgets tiny desktop apps
    LHP_sys_info-0.3 Lighthouse System Information & Video Report
    hplip-3.9.12-scan HP Scanner Drivers
Cheers,
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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 22:56    Post subject:
Subject description: Insidious on CF-28 & other Puppies
 

On my older Panasonic Toughbook CF-28 Insidious brings up a blank screen and only CTRL-Backspace/CTRL-ESC/CTRL-DEL can break out to a reboot.

On the same machine spup040 works fine.

Fluppy008 loads OK but pwireless refuses to recognize the wireless nic.

dpup009, which works flawlessly on my CF-29, has the same blank screen problem as Insidious.

luci-239 shows a "cat: /tc/oldmousedevice error then drops to a command prompt for xorgwizard. No setting in xorg is accepted - just loops back to the command prompt. Choosing Vesa is rewarded with a blank screen from which CTRL-Backspace recovers to the command prompt.

Hopefully some of this is helpful to someone ...

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PostPosted: Fri 26 Nov 2010, 23:10    Post subject:  

Fresh manual frugal install on my old P3 test box.Initial boot had working internet and sound...no problem setting desired 1024x768x24 resolution.


VIDEO REPORT: Insidious Puppy, version 001

Chip description:
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (GMCH) Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller

Driver used by Xorg:
intel

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

# glxgears
138 frames in 5.0 seconds = 27.511 FPS
128 frames in 5.0 seconds = 25.478 FPS
152 frames in 5.0 seconds = 30.303 FPS
160 frames in 5.0 seconds = 31.953 FPS
149 frames in 5.1 seconds = 29.412 FPS



-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 254MB (114MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Fri 26 Nov 2010 09:08:59 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Nov 2010, 02:52    Post subject:  

Could be possible make Dpup010 or zen006 with the old kernel 2.6.21.7 of puppy 4.1.2 ?? (I ask because the old kernel like that one shutdowns the pc smooth )

What of the debian squeeze or sid have the best mplayer in performance ??
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Nov 2010, 03:14    Post subject:  

Yeah, it's possible and easy. Maybe I'll write a guide that explains how to build your own Insidious with Woof. Very Happy

And regarding mplayer, I'm not sure what the Debian guys do. I do know they have multi-threaded, 586, 386 and k6 packages.

At the moment I'm compiling compat-wireless-2010-11-26, to make the kernel better with wireless. This should make it the "ultimate" kernel for the Puppy agenda - better support for older hardware, (some degree of) modem support but great performance and compatibility with recent hardware.

I also want to compile acpi_call as pemasu suggested ... any other third-party drivers you need?

EDIT: meh, compat-wireless failed hard, unknown symbols and stuff Crying or Very sad

EDIT 2: I want to make a PPM repo just for the Insidious packages - the kernel, the extra drivers and all the "generic" packages (themes, wallpapers, etc'). I need to talk to Saturn, he's the owner of brainwave ... maybe he can help with this Smile

If Insidious has its own repo, it means its packages can be used for any wooflet and it gives it more freedom (i.e if someone makes a good package, we can upload it to the repo so it's available in PPM) - we have access to the package repositories and we're more independent.

EDIT 3: I was able to create a PPM repo for Insidious Puppy for testing.

If you want to add it to PPM, edit /root/.packages/DISTRO_PET_REPOS.
Add this:
Code:
brainwavedesigncentral.net|http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima/pet_packages-insidious|Packages-puppy-insidious-official

to PKG_DOCS_PET_REPOS and this:
Code:
brainwavedesigncentral.net|http://www.brainwavedesigncentral.net/dima|Packages-puppy-insidious-official

to PET_REPOS.

Then, add Packages-puppy-insidious-official to PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER. The easiest way to do this is by adding this:
Code:
PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER="Packages-puppy-insidious-official ${PACKAGELISTS_PET_ORDER}"

at the end of the file.

Then, download Packages-puppy-insidious-official to /root/.packages and enable the Insidious repo in PPM's settings (the "configure" thing). At the moment the repo has the packages listed in that file, they're the ones used to build Insidious Puppy. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Nov 2010, 14:08    Post subject:  

Iguleder:

My only problem with the kernel 2.6.32.x is the poweroff process , first the computer poweroff . OK now! The question is if its normal that the hards drives poweroff first than the motherboard and power supply?? Because I had use the 2.6.21. or the 2.6.18. and all poweroff at the same time.

Sorry for the question maybe that not your expertise but ....
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PostPosted: Sat 27 Nov 2010, 17:17    Post subject:  

I can build a "retro" Insidious for you if you want. I have no idea about these things, I'm not a big expert Smile

Just tell me which kernel you want, I'll do my best. You can choose between all the Puppy kernels - 2.6.18.1 (or whatever it was), 2.6.21.7, 2.6.25.16, 2.6.30.5, 2.6.31.14, 2.6.32.16, 2.6.33.2, 2.6.34.7, 2.6.35.7, .... and the Insidious Puppy kernel I compiled, 2.6.32.26.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Nov 2010, 21:27    Post subject:  

Iguleder wrote:
Maybe I'll write a guide that explains how to build your own Insidious with Woof. Very Happy
Very Happy


yes please, and could you do it in simple steps so that even a "senior" can do it,

The wiki one of barry's is a little bare in information for those of us.

"my brain aint what it use to be" to quote an old actor from the last century.

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Nov 2010, 21:35    Post subject:  

scsijon wrote:

"my brain aint what it use to be" to quote an old actor from the last century.
scsijon


Jimmy Durante?

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