Puppy Squeeze 009 Development

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tubeguy · #316 Post by **tubeguy** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 21:10

Bert wrote:
Lobster wrote:Thanks for 006
Here is a picture of an owl in a hat

Hi Lobster,

I'm afraid we can't see that picture.
Did you mean something like this:

Even after googling it, I have no idea what "an owl in a hat" means. Sounds good though

I think he might be using a "thank you" meme. See something that makes you happy, respond with a happy/fun/cool/interesting/upbeat picture.

I could be wrong about his intention, but if I'm right, his execution was perfect.

Lobster, here is a picture of a cool kid:

dejan555 · #317 Post by **dejan555** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 21:40

Debian's abiword in 006 has that bug where it crashes when you click Edit -> Preferences so I compiled this one:

http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/abiword/

NOTE: I didn't compile the plugins pet those are the ones that came with debian's abiword so I'm not sure if they are going to work with this pet but spellchecking works in main pet and I'm not really sure what those other plugins do anyway or if someone needs them. Main pet seems stable and working okay so please test.

#318 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 21:51

Béèm wrote:Annoying not to have a console in 004 (nor rxvt, urxvt, mrxvt)
Even terminal here doesn't work.

Never got an answer to this.
I still have the issue in 006.

Bert · #319 Post by **Bert** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 22:07

Béèm wrote:
Béèm wrote:Annoying not to have a console in 004 (nor rxvt, urxvt, mrxvt)
Even terminal here doesn't work.
Never got an answer to this.
I still have the issue in 006.

I believe gjuhasz found the source of this problem on page 18 of this thread:

mrxvt

It disappears only if specific country localization is set (Desktop menu > chooselocale).
In my case, mrxvt became unavailable as soon as I set hu_HU. Fortunately, when I checked UTF-8 encoding, mrxvt returned.
Karl, maybe you selected de_DE@euro. In this case, mrxvt disappears, too. Tick UTF-8 or select de_DE.

I changed locale from nl.BE@euro to nl.BE and that made mrxvt available. This doesn't mean I like it...can't even paste into it.

Lobster · #320 Post by **Lobster** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 22:52

I do apologise if the invisible owl in a hat was not to your liking . . .
(Probably should have mentioned it was invisible)

I am glad others have provided the more conventional and identical visible owl in a hat + cool kid.
It was indeed a thank you. Normal service is now resumed.

Puppy Linux
Visibly penguin

Karl Godt · #321 Post by **Karl Godt** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 23:09

Which console ?

until now I had no severe problems but ...C+A+F2 ...C+A+F4 seems to work too

Ahh ... terminal seems to been gone from the Menu .. let`s see at /usr/share/applications ... seems to be not there

dpup-001 urxvt.dektop :

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Encoding=UTF-8
Name=Urxvt terminal emulator
Icon=mini-sh.xpm
Comment=Urxvt terminal emulator
Exec=rxvt
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=TerminalEmulator
GenericName=Urxvt

tubeguy · #322 Post by **tubeguy** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 23:11

Running 006 frugal from clean install, JWM desktop count can't be changed from the menu. This showed up in xerrs:

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/usr/local/jwmconfig2/virtualDesk: line 83: [: too many arguments
EXIT="abort"
[H[2JEXIT="ok"

I edited .jwm/jwmrc-personal and that worked.

Karl Godt · #323 Post by **Karl Godt** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 23:18

After installing the ghostscript binary CUPS didn`t print here either but after killall cupsd and saving that cups.conf

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#
# "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 7199 2008-01-08 00:16:30Z mike $"
#
#   Sample configuration file for the Common UNIX Printing System (CUPS)
#   scheduler.  See "man cupsd.conf" for a complete description of this
#   file.
#

# Log general information in error_log - change "info" to "debug" for
# troubleshooting...
LogLevel debug2

# Administrator user group...
# playdayz advised these two...
# SystemGroup root
SystemGroup lpadmin

# Only listen for connections from the local machine.
Listen localhost:631
Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock

# Show shared printers on the local network.
Browsing On
BrowseOrder allow,deny
BrowseAllow all

# Default authentication type, when authentication is required...
# DefaultAuthType Basic
DefaultAuthType None

# Restrict access to the server...
#<Location />
#  Order deny,allow
#</Location>

# Restrict access to the admin pages...
#<Location /admin>
#  Order deny,allow
#</Location>

# Restrict access to configuration files...
<Location /admin/conf>
  AuthType None
#  Require user @SYSTEM
  Order allow,deny
</Location>
# Order deny,allow


# Set the default printer/job policies...
<Policy default>
  <Limit All>
    Order deny,allow
  </Limit>
</Policy>

#
# End of "$Id: cupsd.conf.in 7199 2008-01-08 00:16:30Z mike $".
#

#
# This is written by me to prove
#

cupsd or /etc/init.d/cups restart it prints now at 006

Karl Godt · #324 Post by **Karl Godt** » Sun 26 Sep 2010, 23:25

/root/.jwm/jwmrc-theme :

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<JWM>

<WindowStyle>
	<Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font>
	   <Width>3</Width>
    <Height>22</Height>
	<Active>
		<Text>white</Text>
		<Title>#757575:black</Title>
<!-- <Corner>black</Corner>  -->
       	<Outline>black</Outline>
	</Active>
	<Inactive>
		<Text>#ADADAD</Text>
		<Title>#636363:#313131</Title>
<!-- <Corner>black</Corner> -->
       	<Outline>black</Outline>
	</Inactive>
</WindowStyle>
		
<TaskListStyle>
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font>
	<Foreground>#E2E2E2</Foreground>
	<Background>#3F3F3F:#000000</Background>
	<ActiveForeground>white</ActiveForeground>
	<ActiveBackground>#212121:#3F3F3F</ActiveBackground>
</TaskListStyle>

<TrayStyle>
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font>
	<Foreground>#A2A2A2</Foreground>
	<Background>#181920</Background>
</TrayStyle>

<PagerStyle>
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font>
	<Outline>black</Outline>
	<!-- non-active programs: bg[NORMAL]-->
	<Foreground>#181920</Foreground>
	<!-- non-active desktops: bg[ACTIVE]-->
	<Background>#353746</Background>
	<!-- selected app/desktop bg[SELECTED]-->
	<ActiveForeground>#d5dcf6</ActiveForeground>
	<!-- frame of selected desktop...bg[SELECTED] -->
	<ActiveBackground>#1d2c53</ActiveBackground>
</PagerStyle>


<MenuStyle>
    <Font>DejaVu Sans-12</Font>
	<Foreground>#A5A5A5</Foreground>
	<Background>#181920</Background>
	<ActiveForeground>#E2E2E2</ActiveForeground>
	<ActiveBackground>#3F3F3F:#000000</ActiveBackground>
</MenuStyle>

</JWM>

to fix the virtualDesk line 83 complaints .

Note : Uncomment the lines with "Corner" - it is some .xml and no .sh

tubeguy · #325 Post by **tubeguy** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 00:01

Tried to play an avi file from my Star Trek collection, gnome mplayer starts but doesn't play, got this in xerrs:

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(firefox-bin:5976): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Cannot load module `/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libfile.so' (libfam.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory)

Edit: Quickpet VLC works fine.

Karl Godt · #326 Post by **Karl Godt** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 00:27

mrxvt
It disappears only if specific country localization is set (Desktop menu > chooselocale).
In my case, mrxvt became unavailable as soon as I set hu_HU. Fortunately, when I checked UTF-8 encoding, mrxvt returned.
Karl, maybe you selected de_DE@euro. In this case, mrxvt disappears, too. Tick UTF-8 or select de_DE.

Page 18
Until now I hadn't have much time to play with locales

Mrxvt desn't like de_DE@Money ... de_DE works both checked/unchecked UTF-8 ... Changing the keyboard to deadkeys works, too .... really might be that thing Béèm is complaining about ....
What about Sakura ? it is 1-1.5 MB (3pkgs from debian repo) because at /usr/bin/*rxvt* are 4x 300 KB *rxvt*

Mrxvt doesn't disconnect `pgprs-shell` at mrxvt by Control+c after a while - only another mrxvt with `kill -s HUP pppd`... but perhaps the Internet gets patched dead at the moment .....
[ PrtSc- SysRq ] - key is working here too ... that is very nice ..!

James C · #327 Post by **James C** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 04:18

Fresh frugal install of 006 on the old P3 test box. Luckily for me, Mrxvt was working out of the box.Went ahead and fixed the menu entry, just because.

Most everything else is looking good so far.

DaveS · #328 Post by **DaveS** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 06:12

dejan555 wrote:Debian's abiword in 006 has that bug where it crashes when you click Edit -> Preferences so I compiled this one:

http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/abiword/

NOTE: I didn't compile the plugins pet those are the ones that came with debian's abiword so I'm not sure if they are going to work with this pet but spellchecking works in main pet and I'm not really sure what those other plugins do anyway or if someone needs them. Main pet seems stable and working okay so please test.

Seems ok dejan but it loads weird, as if screen position etc is not saved between use. Functions properly though.
I wish I could get printing to work but find Karls instructions too obscure. Working on it........

dejan555 · #329 Post by **dejan555** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 06:18

Karl Godt wrote:because at /usr/bin/*rxvt* are 4x 300 KB *rxvt*

that's only one mrxvt, other 3 are symlinks

Karl Godt · #330 Post by **Karl Godt** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 07:42

that's only one mrxvt, other 3 are symlinks

Nope :
# ls -lF /mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/*xvt*
-rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 295728 2010-09-28 18:56 /mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/mrxvt*
-rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 295728 2010-09-28 18:56 /mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/mrxvt-full*
-rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 295728 2010-09-28 18:56 /mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/rxvt*
-rwxr-xr-x 4 root root 295728 2010-09-28 18:56 /mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/urxvt*
# file /mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/*xvt*
/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/mrxvt: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/mrxvt-full: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/rxvt: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/urxvt: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped
# stat /mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/*xvt*
File: `/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/mrxvt'
Size: 295728 Blocks: 578 IO Block: 1024 regular file
Device: 702h/1794d Inode: 2371 Links: 4
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
Access: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Modify: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Change: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
File: `/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/mrxvt-full'
Size: 295728 Blocks: 578 IO Block: 1024 regular file
Device: 702h/1794d Inode: 2371 Links: 4
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
Access: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Modify: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Change: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
File: `/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/rxvt'
Size: 295728 Blocks: 578 IO Block: 1024 regular file
Device: 702h/1794d Inode: 2371 Links: 4
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
Access: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Modify: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Change: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
File: `/mnt/+mnt+home+dpup006+dpup-006.sfs/usr/bin/urxvt'
Size: 295728 Blocks: 578 IO Block: 1024 regular file
Device: 702h/1794d Inode: 2371 Links: 4
Access: (0755/-rwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root)
Access: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Modify: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800
Change: 2010-09-28 18:56:31.000000000 +0800

geany at 005 is printing while abiword doesn`t prints : pdftoraster failed ..... perhaps a font thingy : abiword can adjust font but geany font and style ... and I had to use CUPS-PDF first today to get geany to print afterwards ... Epson is default and checked shared but the Headline says Not Shared

DaveS · #331 Post by **DaveS** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 07:42

Printing Fix

Installed Ghostscript as per Karl's instructions here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 013#454013
Fixed printing, nothing else needed in 006

DaveS · #332 Post by **DaveS** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 07:47

With above installed AND dejan's Abiword, Abiword printing correctly.

DaveS · #333 Post by **DaveS** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 07:49

Gnumeric printing correctly AND picking up default printer (which it cant do in 4.3.1)

Lobster · #334 Post by **Lobster** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 07:59

Had a quick look at 006
seemed all right - fonts are not rendered properly (or is that my imagination?)

No Quickpet? (I hear from Igu he no like . . . )
I could not find Openshot or XaraLX or anything I might want to use in the
package manager so I am back in Quirky without any real Squeeze testing . . .

As an end user why would I use Debian
unless I can get some reliable progs?

Am I unreasonable?

You can keep the Owl
- will pop back for 007

Iguleder · #335 Post by **Iguleder** » Mon 27 Sep 2010, 08:11

I think I'll make a 061, 006 with fixes

So ... in order to fix printing, all we need is ghostscript? I can turn the DEB into a PET to skip Woof's processing.

I want to add fam (I removed it, I guess we need it after all) and dejan555's Abiword. I think we should roll back to rxvt-unicode, mrxvt is too problematic, I wanted to do this in 005 already.

EDIT: Lobster, you can get them from the repo. I have some cool concept of a Quickpet-like thing that is customizable and can be used on any Puppy, I want to work on this and a new kernel for dpup once all issues are solved.

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