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James C


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PostPosted: Mon 13 Sep 2010, 18:39    Post subject:  

Fresh frugal install of 001-2 on the old P3 test box.Graphics and internet correct and working on initial boot.........only unexpected problem is no sound.Other than things mentioned in earlier posts,everything else appears to be working.
A really solid beginning. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon 13 Sep 2010, 22:08    Post subject:  

double post Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 02:42    Post subject:  

this sounds like a great project through and through. i like the mission statement. nice touch. so i have little to no programming exp, but i would love to help with any grunt work or very light compiling (emphasis on very light i'm not that good at it yet) but yea don't hesitate to dump that stuff on me (if it fits in the criteria of course Wink )
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 03:09    Post subject:  

morgonzola thanks Smile

register with raffy here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/UsingThisWiki

then update this page as the project develops
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Squeeze

other grunts welcome to register to help out Wink
many thanks Smile

Not sure if Squeeze (uses Debian Squeeze binaries) is the
final name but we already have a logo . . .
which I can not read - but a great start

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 03:45    Post subject:  

found a very big waste of space that needs trimming /usr/share/doc <---58MB !!!

also /usr/share/man should be deleted
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 03:49    Post subject:  

Thank you so much, people Smile

At the moment we need 3 things to be compiled: ffmpeg, xine-lib and aqualung. If there are any applications you want included, reply and attach PETs. Aqualung should be pretty simple to compile.

I have some experience with ffmpeg and xine-lib, so I can take care of that. 01micko could help with ffmpeg too, he's the real expert Smile

In the IRC we agreed to call it Woofian (woof + Debian) ... but Puppy Squeeze is nice too... and we already have a logo.

At the moment I'm generating a first 002 iso, I'm gonna postpone some stuff to 003. All the polish will be in 003. ttuuxxx wanted auto-start for parcellite, for example and some people want wbar. I want 002 to have all replaced applications and 003 to have Openbox with fbpanel/lxpanel and all the bling, as we discussed on IRC.

EDIT: hehe ttuuxxx, saw your reply after submitting mine. I'm aware of the doc/locale issues with all Woof-built puppies, I want to do some trimming in 003 when we already have a beta quality Puppy.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 03:56    Post subject:  

Good call ttuuxxx
Barry used to boast that we had 3MB of documentation
Now we have a whole distros worth?

Personally I find any program that requires documentation is already overcomplicated . . .

Maybe the documentation can be offered as an add on
- after trimming of course?

What's the plan?

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 03:59    Post subject:  

I used to like Aqualung until I found and ported some plugins to BMP, really BMP is the bomb, especially the way I set it up, I add tap and ladspa to it, plus the theme I put together for 2.14X and its stable of heck, If you need a hand with ffmpeg I can do that also. But the compiler would have to be pretty stable to build it.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 04:12    Post subject:  

Good idea, Lobster. I'll try to put all docs in a SFS. Maybe we can expand that "booster pack" idea and make SFSs for graphics, multimedia, documentation, locales and so on, as stu90 or Stripe (don't remember, I just remember the s) said. dpup has BMP too, maybe we can use that PET.

And ttuuxxx, you're right, ffmpeg needs a stable compiler, it's a very complex and sensitive pacakge. I built a 002 and X won't start because it needs some extra library, I'm generating a new ISO with that library included atm.

I want to start all compilation and packaging work on 002, as it should provide pretty much the same libraries as later versions and the same xorg.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 04:12    Post subject:  

as for doc's, really just a intro about Barry and what this releases is, and a how to connect to the internet via,dialup,adsl,wireless and a link to the full doc's package I think is the lightest way to go. Probably around 200 kb if a few Internet connection images were added.
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 04:21    Post subject:  

I did notice xorg was extremely small, I didn't see half the regular min Xorg files, like xext, when I try to compile libxaw I get
No package 'x11' found
No package 'xext' found
No package 'xt' found
No package 'xmu' found
these are part of base, but /usr/X11R7/lib/libX11.la ls there
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 04:29    Post subject:  

Here's a development screeny of 002. Gigolo/LXTask/Gxine work but Abiword and Gnumeric still don't.

Few problems:
- Seamonkey runs but segfaults on certain sites. I'll try Dejan's Seamonkey.
- The Xfce GTK engine is AWESOME.
- The "straight to desktop" thing doesn't work, some missing symlinks. I'll do my best to get rid of it and use the classic xorgwizard.
- Menu entries are messed up for all new applications, gotta turn them into PETs.

EDIT: fixed Abiword and Gnumeric. Now heading to the xorgwizard front.

ttuxxx: it's Lupu's xorg, in 002 it's the Debian xorg and it WORKS!
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 05:14    Post subject:  

Iguleder But I like the blue-moon icons better in 001:)
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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep 2010, 05:17    Post subject:  

Here are some PETs I made from DEBs. Testing time! Smile

Oh, another thing, galculator doesn't work ... does anyone have some PET we can use?
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