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Posted: Sat 18 Sep 2010, 21:14
by Aitch
Hey Guys, I think I know what Don's problem with the download was.....

I have Noscript on Firefox, and get the same result as Don, unless I click 'temporarily allow this page' - so it's either Flash or Java missing/turned off, AFAIK

Aitch :)

A little progress -- Hurrah!!!

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 13:54
by don922
john biles, Roy, & Aitch:

Thank you for your help I can now access the MediaFire site and get a download if I allow MediaFire in NoScript. Part of the problem I was having is because I use the FirePup browser -- it's fast, but it's a little outdated.

I can now run ProZilla other than I can't seem to get a userame or password to work right. I don't understand "Hostname -- localhost Port -- 3128" which are pre-entered in the Preference Panel for Proxies. Failure to get this right eliminates the www.meownplanet download site.

So far getting this huge download has been like herding cats.

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 15:02
by john biles
Hello don922,
I tried to see if anyone else is hosting Legacy OS and found this dodgy looking Russian site hosting Legacy OS may be you can also do a search to find new download links.

Link: http://www.freshwap.net/applications/29 ... -i386.html

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 15:23
by Sylvander
WOT rates that site as "Excellent". :D

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 20:22
by smokey01

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 22:51
by john biles
Hello Sylvander,
WOT? are you saying the site is good or bad?

Hello smokey01,
Thank you for hosting! Maybe don922 can finally download an iso that matches the md5sum.

Posted: Sun 19 Sep 2010, 22:56
by James C
WOT is Web of Trust, a browser addon that rates and reviews websites.
http://www.mywot.com

According to the ratings and reviews the site is safe.

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 01:42
by bodbozzle
edited
:!: It is booting!
AMD Athlon XP

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 02:55
by john biles
Hello bodbozzle,
What make and model of PC / Laptop do you own and how old is it?
Do you know the make and model of the CD / DVD Drive installed?
With over 7000 downloads there's been few complaints of booting problems.

Bad Downloads!!!

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 04:43
by don922
I have downloaded Legacy OS one & a piece more times from SoftPedia (the partial download failed about 3/4 way through and would not resume). This was downloaded with ProZilla, but the md5sum failed on the complete download.

I have downloaded Legacy OS one time from the Smokie01 website with pwget and the md5sum failed. I had to use pwget because I can not get ProZilla to work with the required username and password.

I couldn't find where to download (free) on the freshwap website. It may have a good rating -- it seems flacky to me.

Meanwhile, I was able to download and got good md5sums on Puppy214X-RC5.iso and minipup2.02.iso as a test to determine if I could sucessfully download an iso.

I think the trouble I am having with Legacy OS must be due to it's size.

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 05:49
by bodbozzle
Hello John,
Legacy OS booted on an other PC.
It looks beautiful and it takes more time to explore.
Sorry for causing confusion.
I tried booting Legacy OS on an eee 1000H although it was not intended for that.
(eee and external usb drive)
Thanks a lot!

Posted: Mon 20 Sep 2010, 07:24
by Lobster
booted OK on my Athlon 64 dual processor
It was slow to boot as it is large (seemed 2-3 minutes boot)
and maybe that could be fixed by using Puppy pfix=noram
during boot (if available)

Seems a lot to explore including tutorials and documentation
and a host of programs 8)

legacy booted on a couple of desktops

Posted: Sat 25 Sep 2010, 01:16
by gnomic
Legacy ran on a couple of generic desktop PCs

P4 1.6 GHz w/ 768 MB RAM and a Matrox G550 video card.

Celeron D 2.8 GHz, AOpen mobo, 1.5 G RAM, nvidia 64MB GeForce 4 MX440.

On both machines it booted into RAM, quite snappily on the Celeron, but took a while on the P4.

Also tried on a ThinkPad Z60m with i915, 1.86 GHZ Pentium M, 1G RAM. This booted but took 5 minutes + I think, didn't time it. Will try again to give a more precise timing. This machine has a slightly oddball arrangement wrt the hard drive iirc, the mobo is sata but the disk is plain old ide with some kind of adapter between them.

Posted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 13:10
by breversa
G'day John Biles/Van Gaans !

First of all, let me thank you for your work on Legacy OS and your motivation for doing it, as I LOVE using Linux to give a second life to old hardware (after all, Earth does NOT ONLY belong to the one(s) who pay(s) the bills !). :-)


I tried Legacy OS 2010 on a +/- year 2000 Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600 laptop (Pentium III 700MHz, 512MB RAM, 40GB HDD), and while it DOES BOOT, it hangs after the Xorg/Xvesa graphics server choice. :-(

I've opened a topic on that subject here : http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60425.


I also gave it a try on a more recent Toshiba Tecra A4 (Pentium M 740 1.73GHz, 1024 MB RAM, 80GB HDD), and it boots and runs flawlessly. :-)

ThinkPad Z60m time to desktop

Posted: Tue 05 Oct 2010, 03:57
by gnomic
Just updating last post about the ThinkPad Z60m, keeping an eye on the time it took 6 minutes or more to get a desktop. Slowest of the machines I have tried for some reason, 1.86 GHZ and 1G RAM so not challenged for CPU or memory.

Legacy OS

Posted: Mon 06 Dec 2010, 08:02
by cretsiah
been awhile since I've been around puppy, and was interested in something to run on an ibm laptop.

got this laptpop on Saturday 04/12/2010 and started to test today 06/12/2010.

SPECS: (i dont know all of them sorry)

brand: IBM A21M
Video card: 8 meg ATI 2x agp
CPU: Xeon/Celeron 800MHZ
RAM: 128 meg (however only 127 megs register in bios load-out suggesting a 1meg cache or something)

did it
Boot = yes
run off CD = yes
use Xorg = yes
use swap drive = no


boot time to me seemed to be the equivalent of original puppy's 2.14 through to 4.0 ... which even on my faster units in vm or direct was around 1-3 minutes not including network setup times.

hope that helps

John Biles

see other feedback page for other info

Posted: Mon 06 Dec 2010, 13:14
by john biles
Hello cretsiah,
hope that helps
Yes it does, Thanks

Posted: Mon 06 Dec 2010, 13:16
by breversa
Hi guys,

I successfully tried Legacy OS on a Compaq Evo, and I was amazed how fast it could run SuperTux ! :D

However, I think it does not shutdown properly...

I'll post the specs later when I'm back home, just for the record. :)

EDIT :
Here are the specs :

Compaq Evo N1015v

Processor : Mobile AMD Athlon XP 1500+
Memory : 190MB
Graphic card : ATI Radeon Mobility U1
Display : 1024x768x24
Multimedia audio controller : ALi M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device
Ethernet controller : Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+

It boots, runs off CD, use Xorg, and shuts down properly (contrarily to what I said earlier).

Posted: Thu 23 Dec 2010, 15:00
by moB
Here are some of my TEENpup boot experiences.

Runs from CD very well.

Runs in VBox (Raw disc access) from within msWin. Also boots from grub4dos at machine startup.

Using swap drive in VBox (2GB) and a swapfile (100KB) for actual-box.

Running msWin in ntfs partiton and GNU/linux on ext3 partition.

I do love frugal installs. This puppy likes full better. I'd rather not switch back. Makes a mess of my partition :-)
As for booting Puppy 431 and this simply put sda instead of hda in 321's stanza.
Worked on my (now dead) XP/Mint/Puppy431/TeenPup/NOP/TinyCore box.
Old things break down & die. I will too one day.

Maybe full install into a directory (co-exist mode) is worth trying after all?


Booting from HD using nooby's tip from MinHund root=/dev/ram0 along with with acpi=off.
This avoids kernel panic about VFS and the "ERROR, cannot find Puppy on..." errors.

I noyiced this...
There is a splitting, or forking, of the `path' during boot which depends on whether cd is in tray or nay. Odd behaviour.

===========================================

Without CD in tray:

Mounting /dev/hda2 on (/initrd)/mnt/dev_ro1...
Creating tmpfs for pup_214.sfs on (/initrd)/mnt/tmpfs...
Copying pup_214.sfs to tmpfs..._



Very slow in virtual machine. Three minutes and I can wait no longer!
Only a few seconds at this stage on actual machine (Dell Dimension 4500s; P4 1.79 GHz, 1.12 GB RAM).


===========================================

With CD in tray:

Mounting /dev/hda2 on (/initrd)/mnt/dev_save...
Mntg pup_214.sfs directly off /dev/hda2 onto (/initrd)/pup_ro2...
Mounting pup_save.2fs on pup_rw...
Creating unionfs on (/initrd)/pup_new (to become '/')...


Then rc.init runs. Very fast. VBox: 60 seconds from grub to theme music.
Its faster on actual system.
VM has only 512 MB RAM and a virtual swap drive (a file) and must share CPU cycles.

===========================================

Too bad window does not resize as Puppy 4.31 or lucid does in VM.

Must change to Xorg for physical machine and Xvesa for VBox. Otherwise screen resolution is bad. Odd.


The disc/no-disc boot differentiation occurs after kernel booted as removing disc at this time causes `no disc' behavior.

For safety boot.ini has GNU/linux as default boot option. We don't want msWin meeting itself!
The "Default Boot" option below passes control back to msWin's boot.ini.

Code: Select all

# Grub boot menu 
#
  color green/black yellow/black
  timeout=13
  default=1
#
  title Default Boot (WinXP)
  rootnoverify (hd0,0)
  chainloader +1
  boot
#
  title TinyCore 3.3
  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
  kernel /TC/bzImage vga=771 xvesa=800x600x24 norestore home=hda2 tce=hda2
  initrd /TC/tinycore.gz
#
  title TEENpup
  rootnoverify (hd0,1)
  kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 acpi=off pmedia=atahd
# kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro acpi=off pmedia=atahd or idehd
  initrd /initrd.gz
#

Posted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 14:31
by nitehawk
johnbiles,...
Just have to say that LegacyOS is running great on my Dell Optiplex PIII Coppermine (1Ghz--512ram--160hd) ..full install. Love it! Thanks for all the hard work you put into this. I'm putting it on my older HP Vectra PIII (933Mhz--384ram--40Ghd) should work great there, too.