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davec51
Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 474 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 17:55 Post_subject:
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I tried to make a frugal install right from the iso, as I always do with new versions of Puppy. At first I couldn't boot because I had "root=/dev/sda1" instead of " . ./hda1." Then the boot went further. I put the main Puppy file directly in the root of the partition instead of in my "legacyos" folder, and it went a bit further. But I still can't get all the way to the desktop.
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svgt
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 18:18 Post_subject:
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Hi,
I am twiddling half an hour with boot trials. The live cd is booting without problems.I did the full install, called here coexist.
I limited the installation to exactly one ext2 partition and a swap file. nothing else,
First I got from grub (in mbr) -file not found - because vmlinuz was not in /boot/vmlinuz. I changed it to /vmlinuz. The next message was a problem with initrd.
Kernel panic - no init found - proposal to hand over init= parameter
My grub parameters in menu.lst are:
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=normal
Regards
Svgt
DFI AZ30-TL - 1.7GHz single core Athlon - 768 MB RAM - 7 years old
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john biles

Joined: 17 Sep 2006 Posts: 1331 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 18:32 Post_subject:
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Hello Everyone,
Legacy OS is built on Puppy 2.14 and the only major change is the updating of glibc 2.3.5 to Puppy series 3's glibc 2.5 like ttuuxxx did with 2.14x
Nothing else system wise had been changed. So anything ttuuxxx incorporated in to 2.14x from later puppy series isn't included in Legacy OS sorry!
| Quote: | Am I right in assuming that using a subdirectory might cause the problem? Puppies of series 2 didn't have that option, yet, if I recall correctly.
Does Legacy? Ttuuxxx's 214X does have the subdirectory option, though.
Oh, and PMEDIA=idehd makes no difference at all. |
Hello wuwei, Legacy OS doesn't have the subdirectory option like ttuuxxx's 2.14x sorry!
| Quote: | | At first I couldn't boot because I had "root=/dev/sda1" instead of " . ./hda1." Then the boot went further. |
Hello davec51, Legacy OS still uses kernel 2.6.18.1 and internal Hard Drives are still seen as "hda" not "sda" like later kernels use.
In testing I use 4 PC's ranging from a 500mhz celeron to a 3ghz Pentium 4, 2 Laptops / 1 800mhz Pentium 3 and 1 duo core 1.8ghz 3 year old Laptop and all boot straight from the CD drive? I see some users are passing on commands etc when booting up from the CD. what happens if you just let the CD boot normally without doing anything?
_________________ Legacy OS 2 Released! Install me on a new! EXT2 Partition with 500Mb of swap and I'll be happy.
Legacy OS 4 Released! Install to newer legacy hardware / early EeePC's 
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4768 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 19:09 Post_subject:
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I've booted Legacy OS on 3 different machines, the two lower spec boxes I let boot normally.....no boot parameters added. The other box (2.6 dual-core w/2.5 gb ram booted pfix=ram.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4768 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 19:48 Post_subject:
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For what its worth, Legacy OS has booted on 4 of 4 computers here.I grabbed another box off the shelf, booted pfix=ram and posting with it now.
AMD Duron 1.4 ghz w/384 mb ram and 1gb swap.
Using a lot of ram and swap but it's running pretty quick.
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sinc

Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 523 Location: Tampa, FL USA
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Posted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 19:55 Post_subject:
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only tried a manual frugal install but was not able to boot. i tried in a subdirectory and at / and was unsuccessful ion both situations. same as 8 bit described for the frugal install.
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4768 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Fri 03 Sep 2010, 20:55 Post_subject:
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Me again...................
Went ahead and did a full install on the Duron box from the last post.Because I edit menu.lst instead of reinstalling grub I moved vmlinux into a new "boot" directory and messed with the syntax of menu.lst and it's booting and running fine.
Resource usage dropped dramatically after Legacy OS was actually installed too.
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svgt
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 04:50 Post_subject:
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Me again ....
James C: Please write your menu.lst
I moved vmlinuz to the /boot folder. Then I added to my menu.lst
initrd /initrd.gz
With or without this statement I got kernel panic. There is this screenshot with initrd:
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MinHundHettePerro

Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 833 Location: SE
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 07:03 Post_subject:
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Hello !
Booting from CD: OK
Booting from manual frugal inst. on hdc13: not OK
Created device nodes hdc9 - hdc15 in initrd.gz_/dev - now boots from frugal inst. on hdc13 .
Yes, I know, I have quite a few partitions .
Just in case someone else tried a manual frugal inst. on an "unsupported" partition:
Available device nodes in initrd suggest that frugal installations should be limited to hda1-15, hdb1-8, hdc1-8.
fwiw and hth /
MHHP
_________________ Celeron 2.8 GHz, 1 GiB RAM, i82845 graphics, many partitions, Pupmode 12 (13)
Mostly running Slacko & 214X
Nämen, vaf.... ln -s /dev/null MHHP
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Roger Hunter
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 194
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 11:05 Post_subject:
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Still no joy.
This thing just refuses to boot.
I got past the first failure and ended up on another one but no keyboard response there either.
Then I downloaded the iso again and burned it to a DVD thinking it was a bit too large.
Same result.
Very strange, especially since 2.14 is my old standby and has never failed to load on any of my systems.
Roger
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Roger Hunter
Joined: 05 Jan 2008 Posts: 194
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 12:33 Post_subject:
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Tried again, same result.
Tried booting on a Dell D600 laptop. Same result.
The error message now is "access beyond end of device"
then
"squashfs error sb_bread failed 0xa9080"
"unable to read uid/gid table"
and eventually kernel panic.
Roger
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technowomble

Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 76 Location: West Gloucestershire, UK
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 12:37 Post_subject:
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DL'd and burned Legacy OS on my main Linux box, tried to test it but got the ' cannot find Puppy... ' message. Tried the same CD in my ca. 2000 laptop ( for which it was intended ) running as live CD ( Puppy pfix=ram ) and it booted OK. I've had problems testing Puppy on the ' big box ' before, Quirky NOP booted, but video set up gave ' out of range ', while it worked - at the second attempt - on the laptop. Yet it seems quite happy with 5 series puppies Go figure!
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James C

Joined: 26 Mar 2009 Posts: 4768 Location: Kentucky
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 12:40 Post_subject:
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| svgt wrote: | Me again ....
James C: Please write your menu.lst
I moved vmlinuz to the /boot folder. Then I added to my menu.lst
initrd /initrd.gz
With or without this statement I got kernel panic. There is this screenshot with initrd: |
Here is what I'm using......
title Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
root (hd0,0)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
title Puppy Linux 430 Foxy 3 full install in sda7
root (hd0,6)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda7 pmedia=atahd nosmp
title Puppy Linux 431 NOP full install in sda8
root (hd0,7)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda8 pmedia=atahd nosmp
title Lucid Puppy 501 frugal in sda7
rootnoverify (hd0,6)
kernel /puppy501/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev=sda7 pmedia=atahd psubdir=puppy501 nosmp
initrd /puppy501/initrd.gz
title Puppy Linux 432 frugal in sda8
rootnoverify (hd0,7)
kernel /puppy432/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev=sda8 pmedia=atahd psubdir=puppy432 nosmp
initrd /puppy432/initrd.gz
title Legacy OS 2010 full install in hda12
root (hd0,11)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda12 pmedia=atahd
I made a "boot" directory, and put vmlinuz there like the newer Puppies.Posting from it now.
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nooby
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 9477 Location: SwedenEurope
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 12:51 Post_subject:
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I got this advice from MinHund...
| Quote: | if you put vmlinuz and initrd.gz in /boot and pup_214.sfs and zdrv_214.sfs in /, then this menu.lst entry
title Legacy OS
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 PKEYS=se
initrd /boot/initrd.gz
should boot a frugal inst. on hda2 (GRUB (hd0,1)) (with swedish keyboard layout). |
So if you need to do frugal install try that one. I worked for me on a HP Desktop
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svgt
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 107 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Sat 04 Sep 2010, 13:30 Post_subject:
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Hello James,
In your root directory I count 17 files and folders. But I have got only six things:
boot lost&found idehd initrd.gz pup_214.sfs zdrv_214.sfs. Why is there this difference?
Why did you make a /boot directory? In my full installation /boot was there from the beginning, with /grub folder inside. My menu.lst is for Legacy the same, except this atahd parameter.
Regards
Svgt
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