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alas

Joined: 20 Apr 2010
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PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 13:05    Post subject:  

pskin,

thanks for your time - it works with insmode on the surfboard! the other module (rtl8187) was the one of my netgear wg111 usb dongle, I even did not blacklist it, and it works.

Many many thanks, that's a really great improvement for the surfboard. Now, last thing to solve would be the connection to a beamer with the vga port of the edubook. But it has time.

greetings,

al
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Aitch


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Location: Chatham, Kent, UK

PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 02:18    Post subject:  

pskin
spotted your post of 2 weeks ago on the Edubook site, about somewhere to upload the 4.31 patch

http://www.deviceonchip.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=18&id=491&Itemid=85

If you still need somewhere, you could try dropbox, or mediafire

http://www.dropbox.com/

http://www.mediafire.com/

Dropbox linux page says it can be added to repos, whilst Mediafire you can upload without an account, but I'm not sure how anyone would know how to find them....
both are free upload sites

Aitch Smile
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alas

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jan 2011, 13:25    Post subject: lucid 5.2 and wary 5  

Hi all,

hereafter a short report on my tryings with lucid 5.2 and wary 5 on the surfboard:

Lucid 5.2 on surfboard: rdc driver not present, as it seems, or I can not find it from the xorgwizard; but networking is working, probably sound too;

~ EDIT: the rdc driver is not present because there is none working with xorg 7.5; networking and sound work.

Lucid 5.2 on gecko edubook: everything works out of the box, even X, and I don't understand why; I did not have time to check out xorg.conf, but shall do it asap; it probably uses the vesa driver.

~EDIT: yes, it does use the vesa driver -- and get the right resolution;


wary 5 on surfboard: almost everything works out of the box, but the wirless built-in dongle; the wireless device has been recognized and the module 8192s has been loaded, and I can scan the network, but can't connect via dhcp; I am using the driver 8712u on the surfboard with puppy 4.31 edubook edition, and it works like a charm.

wary 5 on the gecko edubook: everything ok, from X to sound, to poweroff. Wireless not tested since I don't have a built-in dongle on the edubook.

Short report, but more as I go on.

al
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kevin bowers

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PostPosted: Thu 24 Mar 2011, 22:25    Post subject: LuMa 5.2 on Gecko Edubook  

A few things don't seem to work on mine. I posted the details on the Gecko thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50208&search_id=455310473&start=15. 5.2 seems to be just a hair slower than 4.31, but still runs circles around anything else I've tried, and I've tried everything I could find or think of. Unless and until they make massive improvements in their processor I won't bother with a surfboard however much I like the concept.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Mar 2011, 03:28    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Mar 2011, 03:28    Post subject: Re: LuMa 5.2 on Gecko Edubook  

kevin bowers wrote:
A few things don't seem to work on mine. I posted the details on the Gecko thread: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50208&search_id=455310473&start=15. 5.2 seems to be just a hair slower than 4.31, but still runs circles around anything else I've tried, and I've tried everything I could find or think of. Unless and until they make massive improvements in their processor I won't bother with a surfboard however much I like the concept.


I also believe that the concept was good, just that the base memory should be doubled and the cpu could be 50% faster.
The best version of the concept is the new Commodore 64, It does circles around the Surfboard by its spec's, but will take much more power consumption. http://www.commodoreusa.net/CUSA_C64.aspx
But still I have hope that we will get the Surfboard running faster and better
I haven't had time to build a version yet. Barry is building a tiny linux version, this might just be an idea new base for Surfboard/OLPC and the rest of the newer smaller pc's.
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PostPosted: Fri 25 Mar 2011, 08:48    Post subject: CPU limitations  

I am still of the opinion that the lack of internal cache memory is the major limitation of the Gecko, I assume the surfboard has the same problem. It isn't that it's too small, it lacks one completely, so that every last bit has to travel down the pipeline to the RAM, one at a time.

I shall have to check out the Commodore, my original 64 was stolen about 1981 or 2. It was my second home computer and actually had pretensions of being a useful machine!
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 07:12    Post subject:  

Hi guys I went off the rocker and purchased a 500GB 2.5 Seagate sata for the surfboard and below are a few pictures of me installing it, I haven't tested it yet, just got to the point of partitioning it up and just started a frugal install of 432. I'll keep you informed on how it turns out Smile
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 08:03    Post subject:  

well The frugal install on the sata drive worked Smile The reason why I purchased the drive was to see if it would speedup the surfboard and well guess what. Its just as slow as ever even with a 10GB swap partition.
Maybe I'll try Dpup on it.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Apr 2011, 13:06    Post subject:  

I took the pup-431-edubook.iso and updated with the pup-431-edubook_update.delta that pskin made and uploaded the updated iso to http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/NorhTec/431/pup-431-edubook_updated.iso
md5sum 85bee2db4622723b71da858ab9beba8d
this is the best version to date, but I'm still testing others.
ttuuxxx

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PostPosted: Sun 01 May 2011, 09:53    Post subject:  

pup-431-edubook_updated.iso is probably the best version around, its still slow and my kids can forget about playing club penguin on it, Its shocking how slow flash can actually move, but if your just surfing the net and are used to dialup, lol that's what it reminds me of, then your good.
Heck I find it a real shame I wasted like $270.00 AU on this, $200 for the pc/shipping/tv-out and $70 for 500GB sata drive, Hmmm anyone in Australia want a updated surfboard for $200Au with shipping included, heck I'll toss in the 500GB drive with puppy on it also Smile

I just want to move on to my next pc project.
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