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As I like KDE for it's user-friendly configurability I tried this Trinity.
I load also wine 1.32 sfs and pidgin 1.7.2 (lucid) at boot.

My favorite News Client in wine (MesNews) does start, but I can't retrieve messages, altho I am connected to the internet.

My favorite mail client in wine (Pegasus mail) does start. I give the user id to load the mail, but the mail isn't loaded. Normally there should have been an icon in the tray, but it isn't there. I looked in Pprocess and the mail client application isn't there anymore.

How can I diagnose what happens?

Also the tray applications like freemem and connection weren't in the tray. I had to start them manually. Any idea?

Try /root/.kde/Autostart directory for kde's startup scripts
If there's no such dir then create it.

EDIT: You can try making symlink to /root/Startup

Thank you dejan555
I should have realized that KDE had a separate start directory.
I made the symlinks.

As for the wine programs, I rebooted and when in KDE switched to jwm.
Verified everything and I could run those programs.
I switched back to KDE and now they run.
Don't understand why they didn't run in the first place.

There is just an issue left.

The KDE menu's only contains puppy JWM's sub-directory entries.
The ones which are in the root of JWM's menu entries are all in Lost & Found. Kinda annoying. Meaning the applications I added like the wine one's have their desktop files in /usr/share/applications as it should, but I suppose this isn't enough for KDE to get them in KDE's menu tree.
In JWM things could be arranged with fixmenus.

Is there such a thing in KDE?

.desktop files in /usr/share/applications for kde usually need different category names specified to apear in correct menus, I had to manually modify many of them for kdpup to get them in correct entries.

Thank you. I was afraid for that reply.
Not easy to combine different desktop environments.
But so far it looks good.
Will work a bit like this.
I used Lighthouse also, but found it a bit heavy.

You might check if you have "KMenu" though it's utility for editing menu, just remembered I had it in kdpup

Yes KMenu is there.
I remember that from KDpup I used before and LightHouse.
But where is the menu file (or files) stored?

I looked in .kde and .kde3, but didn't find something significant.

I just found an easy way through KMenu.
As all these 'puppy unclassified' desktops are in the Lost & Found category, one can just grap an entry and drag it to the desired category in the Menu system.
If an appropriate category is absent, just create it.
No complex editing to do thus.

after working out the ctrl + backspace
and 'xwin startkde' to start . . .

worked well (and fast) in Luci 235
thanks Igu

Working on Trinity 3.5.12, got a ready base SFS which works well, Ark and now I'm also making an Amarok SFS.

KMplayer or whatever it was will follow, I also want Juk or some other music player, Kopete, Kmail, Koffice ...

As Lobster says. Works fast.
My impression, app's work faster then in 235 openbox or jwm.

Got some goodies already, get them here (the kdebase-3.5.12.sfs is the base Trinity with pretty much nothing, truly minimal, applications are available as SFSs and have all their dependencies).

So far there's kpdf, Ark, Kopete and Noatun. Still running the magical scripts on the Amarok directory, so Amarok will join soon. On a second rxvt I'm working on Konversation, Ktorrent will follow.

Gotta love Trinity

I still have another point to clarify.
I am so used to have the drive icons on the desktop and mount them by clicking on them.
Didn't find an easy way in KDE to do this.

Um, use pmount?

Sure pmount is a possibility, but I was thinking at something more in the KDE line like media:/ and have the partitions in there ready to be mounted/unmounted with a single click.
Maybe it's utopia.

It needs /etc/fstab to show drives in media:/ but in kde3 even with fstab written I couldn't mount them on click, maybe it works in trinity, or I didn't set it up correctly.

Thanks for the info, very educational.
I added device sdb1 and it is in media:/ now.
But when I try to mount it I get the message that the feature only available is with HAL.
So I suppose HAL isn't implemented, or does it have to be started separately?

Yeah I think it needs hal daemon to be running with some correct config or script.

I found a file in /etc hal-kde3.conf which contents is:but I didn't find a hald script/binary on the system.

Probably hal isn't implemented then I suppose.

If you're sure hald isn't present on system maybe you can try installing
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=hal