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Aitch


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jan 2012, 23:38    Post subject:  

harii4
Don't know if you got your wifi sorted, but if you type
Code:
lspci -nn


in a terminal, it'll show you the exact type and version chipset

here's mine
Code:

sh-4.1# lspci -nn
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation E7505 Memory Controller Hub [8086:2550] (rev 03)
00:00.1 Unassigned class [ff00]: Intel Corporation E7505/E7205 Series RAS Controller [8086:2551] (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation E7505/E7205 PCI-to-AGP Bridge [8086:2552] (rev 03)
00:02.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation E7505 Hub Interface B PCI-to-PCI Bridge [8086:2553] (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:24c2] (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:24c4] (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:24c7] (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller [8086:24cd] (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge [8086:244e] (rev 82)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge [8086:24c0] (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface [0101]: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller [8086:24cb] (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller [8086:24c3] (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller [8086:24c5] (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV44A [GeForce 6200] [10de:0221] (rev a1)
02:1c.0 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC [8086:1461] (rev 04)
02:1d.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge [8086:1460] (rev 04)
02:1e.0 PIC [0800]: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 I/OxAPIC [8086:1461] (rev 04)
02:1f.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82870P2 P64H2 Hub PCI Bridge [8086:1460] (rev 04)
03:03.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82545EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (Copper) [8086:100f] (rev 01)
04:02.0 SCSI storage controller [0100]: Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m [9005:0080] (rev 02)


The numbers in square brackets plus revision, after the name will help get the right driver

Aitch Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 06 Jan 2012, 22:11    Post subject:  

@Aitch
thanks - yes i did get wifi to work. Smile
even got blinky worked out for jwm.

Giving cwm a shot - not Iguleder's cwm Sad
Found an older .deb that worked with TXZ_pup.

Adding Tile utility app. to my EvilWM setup.

Nothing runs like an Puppy Linux Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jan 2012, 12:01    Post subject:  

A new year and what has happened since I joined this forum

This is the third post I made to the forum in 2007 52.9MB
and it shows what I was thinking then about making a light version
removing the browsers and I was tired of the
constant changes leaving everyone in the dark
this is what I was thinking about five years ago !
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22099


basically I havent changed my thoughts
except I want to rebuild everything following established
linux community tools such as pkgtools
and use a package format that hasn't changed in years

later I will use linux live scripts so that the live base will be 100%
distro compatible with the big brother linux
this would allow any distro to be used (slackware ,debian,arch ....)

then use home made packages for the light experience
like the community custom built for puppy

why not just use a script to make a live cd
then any distro could be used
http://slackware-live.tuxfamily.org/-Home-

Joe

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PostPosted: Sun 08 Jan 2012, 16:18    Post subject: Txz packages  

Hi Joe (big-bass),
Just a quickie.I normally run Racy 5.2.2 but was trolling through this thread earlier when I came across this package "beautify-1.0-i486-5_SLXR.txr so I downloaded it and it installed perfectly !!
However this does throw up (to me anyway) another question ; will any txz package install in Racy?
Regards,
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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jan 2012, 20:15    Post subject:  

Quote:
A new year and what has happened since I joined this forum

This is the third post I made to the forum in 2007 52.9MB
and it shows what I was thinking then about making a light version
removing the browsers and I was tired of the
constant changes leaving everyone in the dark
this is what I was thinking about five years ago !
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22099


basically I havent changed my thoughts
except I want to rebuild everything following established
linux community tools such as pkgtools
and use a package format that hasn't changed in years

later I will use linux live scripts so that the live base will be 100%
distro compatible with the big brother linux
this would allow any distro to be used (slackware ,debian,arch ....)

Sounding way cool Very Happy
Quote:
then use home made packages for the light experience
like the community custom built for puppy

Hope this means Dotpets - enjoy the freedom of using both PPM and Pkgtools Smile

Sounds truly Great....
What will you be calling it?

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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jan 2012, 12:29    Post subject:  

Hi Joe
Happy New Year to you, too
I still have that fat free full installed on an IBM TP560....it worked well, and I only added a few apps, as it was very ram deficient nice job, btw

I'm so glad you went the route you did as there are many development paths, but people seem to be coming back to the idea of using more standard linux filesystem layouts, and trimming fat - much good development for us plebs to enjoy Laughing

Keep up the good work, looking forward to your next creation/development Very Happy
Might your current thinking extend to cross-pollination to ARM/PPC builds?, I would really hope so Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 11 Jan 2012, 11:32    Post subject:  

alphadog
Quote:
However this does throw up (to me anyway) another question ; will any txz package install in Racy?



I dont know what has changed in Racy to express any certainty
at best you have good luck that my package worked correctly on Racy
saying that only because there have been many changes I havent monitored
after puppy 4.12

I do know however any kernel dependent packages such as drivers wont work
any special packages I wrote or compiled
should be tested puppy pfix=ram if that option still exists I dont know

this way you could test something without destroying your save file
so to sum it up you would have to test
if you do have a question about a certain package I compiled or wrote
I would be able to provide more info

Joe

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jan 2012, 22:02    Post subject:  

Hey I have been testing Porteus !
http://porteus.org/

my package tools works perfectly on Porteus
so I dont need to use modules I can install TXZ packages directly
with a GUI ... isnt that cool !

because I built my tools around slackware
I can use them elsewhere Cool on Porteus
and all of my packages that I have tested so far
work on Porteus
so this means I can add what I like
* man am I glad I stuck with a linux package standard

Porteus did an excellent job
I signed up to their forum also
will keep you posted on the progress

I offered them my tools for those who prefer just simple
packages and any help they could use
http://www.puppy2.org/slaxer/snapshot1.png

also they use linux live scripts so it is doing what I wanted to do
to build the base with

I guess the winds of change have blown me into some
great new ideas

Porteus the best live cd I have tested in years
giving credit where credit is due

Joe

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 00:53    Post subject:  

big_bass wrote:

my package tools works perfectly
so I dont need to use modules I can install TXZ packages directly
with a GUI ... isnt that cool !

Yes. Smile
TXZ_pup is very solid and functional
with loads of software
TXZ_pup uses little more than
zip files or tar files which goes back to when computers
saved on reel to reel on Unix
Tar = tape archival retrieval - is that right?

Not so long ago though it seems like ancient days
Joes distro was known as Slaxer Pup
and I was still doing vids with a cheapo battery powered vid camera
http://youtu.be/E4BqXF_ZXiY

Joes system is very simple
make compatible with simple and available packages
Use a solid base (Slackware)

Sickgut is doing much the same with Debian packages.

Joe is a good fish
If you are using this fork let us know Smile

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 10:36    Post subject:  

Hey Lobster

I went back an did a minor edit to my prior post
I wasn't talking about TXZ_pup
I was talking about Porteus!

Porteus the best live cd I have tested in years

puppy has its good things and people
but puppy has gone down a different road
that I havent walked in more than two years

Porteus is going down the road that "I wanted to take TXZ pup to"
but the puppy community wasn't and isn't and won't be ready for something like that which is ok

honestly "humble pie" I thanked the author of Porteus
and told him that I wished that I could have done what he did !
the way it was built and the end result is what I was imagining
the next txz pup to be but he saved me all the work in doing it Very Happy

I don't have the free time that I used to have

so I can spend more time making apps and enjoy coding

what I was trying to say was all the work I did on TXZ pup
with package management using slackware's package format
most of it will work on Porteus so it will be very easy for me to
add anything I want to it

and most of all what got me interested in to start with
is to learn another way to build
a base with http://slackware-live.tuxfamily.org/-Home-


Quote:

Slackware Live is a live CD/DVD/USB build and install tool written for Slackware Linux:

contains all the necessary to convert an installed system to a live system and vice-versa;
ability to build a system from packages;
it doesn’t need any kernel recompile, but it support seamlessly AUFS if your kernel support them;
no changes are needed on the system to make live; the live system boots like an installed one
support multiple SquashFS modules;
can run in RAM;
can be booted from network (live over NFS);
support for home directory on USB boot media (directory or file) or over NFS;
support persistent system changes on USB boot media (directory or file) or over NFS;
auto-detects partitions.

Joe

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 21:09    Post subject:  

Quote:
puppy has its good things and people
but puppy has gone down a different road
that I havent walked in more than two years

Porteus is going down the road that "I wanted to take TXZ pup to"
but the puppy community wasn't and isn't and won't be ready for something like that which is ok

Build it and they will come
An three pointed fork - puppy, slackware and Porteus!
what could it hurt?
I think the puppy ,slackware and porteus communities could handle it.
Slaxer_Pup 4.12 and TXZ_pup 4.5 each have 32 thread pages Very Happy Very Happy

Dream Big Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon 16 Jan 2012, 22:42    Post subject:  

Quote:
Porteus the best live cd I have tested in years


Good news, I kinda miss Slaxer, which was a nice piece of polish.

If Porteus gains a Puppy developer, we gain a new friend. Sounds win win to me. Smile
In ye olde days I hoped we would use or integrate programs from DSL and Austrumix. John Murga developed his version of Lua in DSL and Puppy chat was started to offer a similar service to DSL
. . . we were the number two small Linux . . . for most of our history . . .

Viva Puppy
Viva Porteus. Viva Penguin Power.

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Jan 2012, 23:15    Post subject:  

Not too many people use 3.01 but how about back-porting your pkg-tools for 3.01?
Could get my old laptop to be setup like my txz-pup Very Happy

I know your busy working on your next TXZ_pup or Slaxer Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri 20 Jan 2012, 23:29    Post subject:  

I will be helping the Porteus team
because its better to join something you agree with
their design goal

Joe
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PostPosted: Mon 23 Jan 2012, 21:02    Post subject:  

FYI:
An repository of slackware packages:
http://slackware.opennix.com/

Quote:
Browse by version:
Slackware 13.37
Slackware 13.1
Slackware 13.0
Slackware 12.2
Slackware 12.1

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