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Serial file transfer to Win95 machine
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andym3

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jun 2010, 07:38    Post subject:  Serial file transfer to Win95 machine  

Hi guys! Long time no post, but I'm still a Puppy user Wink

I have a problem with one of my old machines. It's a 486DX laptop with 4MB RAM and a 200MB HDD, but no FDD or CD drive. It runs Win95. I'm trying to set up serial communication between it and another machine running Puppy from USB (4.2 I think).
With these instructions (but with ttyS1 changed to ttyS0), I never get a login prompt when the terminal is displayed.
With these instructions (again, ttyS1 changed to ttyS0), Win95 just ends the connection immediately, not giving error messages.
Does anyone know of a solution or an alternate method of file transfer? The only one I have available now is disassembling the 486 and attaching the HDD to the other laptop. Is it my fault or Puppy's fault?
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muggins

Joined: 20 Jan 2006
Posts: 6668
Location: lisbon

PostPosted: Sun 13 Jun 2010, 19:27    Post subject:  

I wonder whether FileMaven would work? It seems to see my parallel port OK, running under dosbox.
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andym3

Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 08:01    Post subject:  

Thanks for the suggestion! I didn't know Dosbox could handle serial ports. But I'm still looking for a method that doesn't involve disassembling it, if somebody here knows one...
EDIT: Could C-Kermit work?
EDIT2: Finally got it! A small change to /etc/inittab and it works! The line is "ttyS0::respawn:/sbin/getty ttyS0 115200". I got a login prompt after a 60s timeout (weird). I'll try using rz/sz for file transfer later (HyperTerminal supports Zmodem).
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cthisbear

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
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Location: Sydney Australia

PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:44    Post subject:  

Does Teamviewer work in 95.

http://support.teamviewer.com/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=38&nav=0,13

No.

///////

Ok! if you could boot Falcons Mini cd
and run Teamviewer portable on the 486??

47 megs.

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5373232/FalconFour_s_Micro_Boot_CD_2.5_-_Live_XP__Spinrite__Kon-Boot_

For mobile use: TeamViewer Portable

http://www.teamviewer.com/download/index.aspx

::::::::

Puppy 5 runs TeamViewer no problem.
Teamviewer pet goes in the the Internet part of menu.

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-e3aa28b8.html

In Puppy 4.31 >>you have to search for it.

" Update Mr T.
Your update works from the menu as stated in Lucid Pup.

Can't find Wine.

Go to >>> /usr/bin >>> see teamviewer >>> click on >>>
it works...>>>> drag to desktop>>>click>>>it works. "

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54638&start=15

Chris.
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andym3

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PostPosted: Tue 15 Jun 2010, 05:28    Post subject:  

cthisbear: The 486 doesn't have a CD drive. And I doubt Falcon's Mini CD would run with 4 MB of RAM.

The only problem I have now is that binary Zmodem file transfer locks up the 486 and I have to reboot it (says something about bad packets). I'll try to compile C-Kermit or G-Kermit, it's more reliable AFAIK.

EDIT: C-Kermit compilation fails with
Code:
{standard input}:16467: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.'
gcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)
The file seems to be "ckuus4.o". Am I missing something? I started compilation with "make linux".
G-Kermit also fails on compiling "gkermit.c" (lots of errors, filled rxvt's buffer with them). Any ideas?
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cthisbear

Joined: 29 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sat 26 Jun 2010, 21:08    Post subject:  

andym3:

Apologies>> I missed that >> 4MB RAM
Cripes >> and that >> no FDD or CD drive.

Maybe I need to compile a Dementia Pup.

Maybe 01micko could suggest something.
But I doubt that it would be Puppy.

http://users.tpg.com.au/01micko/

Not even pUPnGO -
6Mb ISO - Basic Building Block Puplet

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51478

Chris.
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gronos04

Joined: 30 Dec 2006
Posts: 54
Location: Radfordia QLD

PostPosted: Mon 28 Jun 2010, 10:59    Post subject:  

this looks quite clear

http://linuxgazette.net/issue41/smyth.html
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RetroTechGuy


Joined: 15 Dec 2009
Posts: 2642
Location: USA

PostPosted: Mon 28 Jun 2010, 12:22    Post subject:  

andym3 wrote:
cthisbear: The 486 doesn't have a CD drive. And I doubt Falcon's Mini CD would run with 4 MB of RAM.

The only problem I have now is that binary Zmodem file transfer locks up the 486 and I have to reboot it (says something about bad packets). I'll try to compile C-Kermit or G-Kermit, it's more reliable AFAIK.

EDIT: C-Kermit compilation fails with
Code:
{standard input}:16467: Error: Unknown pseudo-op: `.'
gcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1)
The file seems to be "ckuus4.o". Am I missing something? I started compilation with "make linux".
G-Kermit also fails on compiling "gkermit.c" (lots of errors, filled rxvt's buffer with them). Any ideas?


Urgh!... I guess what I would do is get one of these, and physically pull the HDD:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119152&

You can plug the laptop drive in, and plug the device into the USB port on a newer machine. By the time you get done playing with software, you could have the whole drive copied (or perhaps you have a friend who owns one of these).

Without a floppy or CD, your options are rather limited... (there are versions of Linux that run on floppy...but...)

At the moment I don't recall the package I used to run on my old 10MHz XT desktop (MSDOS based networking) -- but I had pretty solid transfer capability with my blistering 2400 baud modem -- zmodem worked very well on that system. But again, I don't know how you would go about getting the software onto your laptop.

Did your laptop have a modem? If so, what interface software came with that?

Also, in the old days, people used to use a program called "laplink" to transfer files to and from... I think you'll need a null-modem cable.
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npierce

Joined: 28 Dec 2009
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PostPosted: Mon 28 Jun 2010, 16:44    Post subject:  

andym3 wrote:
. . . Any ideas?

On my old RedHat 5.2 box I used to run minicom 1.82. It supported transfers via zmodem, ymodem, xmodem, and kermit. I think minicom is still available.
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