Fluppy 013

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csshin · #1771 Post by **csshin** » Sat 16 Apr 2011, 15:18

To Jemimah or anybody that can help with full install

I have been using Fluppy 013 for a while. Added Chinese language pack and other packages, remastered it and used the remastered copy on several several machines successfully. Recently I bought a new PC without any operation system but an empty 500G hard disk. I tried to do a full install and used grub4dos to make the disk bootable.

When I boot, grub runs successfully, giving me a list of boot choices I set before. Then it displayed one or two lines and came to a halt with sh-3.00#.

With a usb keyboard, I cannot key in anything and the machine seems to have gone dead. With a ps2 keyboard, I can type in commands. An ls let me see the directories in the disk. It cannot run xorgwizard, probably it has not loaded it. xwin gives an error saying that it cannot a read-only file /etc/.xloaded.

I tried to use a fresh download of fluppy 013.iso or .zip to do the full installation. I also try to do it on several machine. No luck.

I suspect a bug in the full install procedure or in vmlinuz. I knew very little linux and puppy to get any further. Can anybody help. Thank you.

don570 · #1772 Post by **don570** » Sat 16 Apr 2011, 19:42

I don't have experience with a full install
but the first thing I would suspect is an
improper kernel line in my grub configuration file.

(Note that for grub2 it is called the linux line
because the word 'kernel' is replaced by the word 'linux')

You must point the bootloader to the right
partition

For instance if you have installed in hda9
you put root=/dev/hda9 in the kernel line

Here are the links to explain grub
http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/grub/grub.htm
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... c&start=48

Other than that I know nothing

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csshin · #1773 Post by **csshin** » Sun 17 Apr 2011, 12:02

I think I have get grub to direct to the correct partition, as after the booting hung, I do a ls and can see the directories of the full install fluppy.

106498 · #1774 Post by **106498** » Sun 17 Apr 2011, 22:54

If you post your menu.lst file, we can have a look at it. Usually in the /boot directory.

csshin · #1775 Post by **csshin** » Mon 18 Apr 2011, 01:05

My menu.lst file is as follows. It is generated automatically by grub4dos and I have edited the title and commented out the window boot section. Frugal boot is OK.

# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.7
color white/blue black/cyan white/black cyan/black
timeout 10
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy
title Fluppy013 Frugal
rootnoverify (hd0,3)
kernel /puppy013/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd psubdir=puppy013 nousbwait=1
initrd /puppy013/initrd.gz

# Full installed Linux

title Fluppy 013 (sda1/boot)
uuid 5a45137c-d016-4aa1-b42c-5923aec1aacb
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
#title Windows\nBoot up Windows if installed
# errorcheck off
# find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /bootmgr
# chainloader /bootmgr
# find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /ntldr
# chainloader /ntldr
# find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /io.sys
# chainloader /io.sys
# errorcheck on

# Boot from Partition Boot Sector

#title Fluppy 013 (sda4:PBS)
# uuid 5a45137c-d016-4aa1-b42c-5923aec1aacb
# chainloader +1

# additionals

title Find Grub2\nBoot up grub2 if installed
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /boot/grub/core.img
kernel /boot/grub/core.img

title Grub4Dos commandline\n(for experts only)
commandline

title Reboot computer
reboot

title Halt computer
halt

gcmartin · #1776 Post by **gcmartin** » Mon 18 Apr 2011, 18:37

Parole Media generates an error message on playback of one of its defaults. Anyone know anything about this media player and how to resolve this?

Thanks in advance

maxpro4u · #1777 Post by **maxpro4u** » Mon 18 Apr 2011, 21:00

gcmartin wrote:Parole Media generates an error message on playback of one of its defaults. Anyone know anything about this media player and how to resolve this?

Thanks in advance

What type of file are you trying to play?
Here is a link to parole
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/parole

don570 · #1778 Post by **don570** » Tue 19 Apr 2011, 18:29

csshin wrote: # Full installed Linux

title Fluppy 013 (sda1/boot)
uuid 5a45137c-d016-4aa1-b42c-5923aec1aacb
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro

I have no experience with grub4dos but
shouldn't your hard disk be referred to as hda1
rather than sda1

I thought that was the convention.
Here's a couple of pages on grub4dos
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/basics.htm
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/syntax.htm

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don570 · #1779 Post by **don570** » Tue 19 Apr 2011, 18:38

More info from

http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/files/multiboot.htm

To create an entry for Linux Puppy, add the following text/entry -
title Linux Puppy
hide (hd0,0)
hide (hd0,1)
unhide (hd0,4)
unhide (hd0,5)
hide (hd1,0)
find --set-root /vmlinuz
kernel /puppy400/vmlinuz pmedia=idehd psubdir=puppy400 pkeys=uk
initrd /puppy400/initrd.gz

or,
title Linux Puppy
hide (hd0,0)
hide (hd0,1)
unhide (hd0,4)
unhide (hd0,5)
hide (hd1,0)
kernel (hd0,4)/puppy400/vmlinuz pmedia=idehd psubdir=puppy400 pkeys=uk
initrd (hd0,4)/puppy400/initrd.gz rootnoverify (hd0,4)

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myke · #1780 Post by **myke** » Tue 19 Apr 2011, 18:40

Most modern Linux distributions refer to hard disks as sda, sdb, etc. rather than hda, hdb, etc

That's because the drivers for these hard disks have been changed in the kernel.

The old pata drivers referred to hard disks with hd whatever while the new libata drivers refer to the same hard disks as sd whatever.

myke

csshin · #1781 Post by **csshin** » Wed 20 Apr 2011, 02:20

don570 wrote:
csshin wrote:

# Full installed Linux

title Fluppy 013 (sda1/boot)
uuid 5a45137c-d016-4aa1-b42c-5923aec1aacb
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro

I have no experience with grub4dos but
shouldn't your hard disk be referred to as hda1
rather than sda1

I have actually tried hda1, sda1, hd(0,0). The results are the same. I think grub located the partition correctly. Only that vmlinuz stuck at some point.[/quote]

nooby · #1782 Post by **nooby** » Wed 20 Apr 2011, 13:42

I still fail to get Pwidgets to work. Should one have to activate it in some odd way? or does it only work after reboot. Yes one should go to File? and start it somehow. Wow very frustrating. It doesn't behave that way on other puppies.

tlchost · #1783 Post by **tlchost** » Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:39

nooby wrote:I still fail to get Pwidgets to work. Should one have to activate it in some odd way?

It''s not an odd way....turning on Pwidgets is in one of the menus....I had the same question and finally found the icon....one needs to search for it.

Thom

James C · #1784 Post by **James C** » Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:46

nooby wrote:I still fail to get Pwidgets to work. Should one have to activate it in some odd way? or does it only work after reboot. Yes one should go to File? and start it somehow. Wow very frustrating. It doesn't behave that way on other puppies.

See here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 230#496230

nooby · #1785 Post by **nooby** » Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:51

Thanks! It is all about logic and preferences.

edoc · #1786 Post by **edoc** » Wed 20 Apr 2011, 21:18

So, when will Fluppy be ported to the iPod?

edoc · #1787 Post by **edoc** » Thu 21 Apr 2011, 04:00

I have downloaded and uncompressed the Linux app from http://chirp.danplanet.com/downloads

BTW: Midori crashed the first time I tried then was stable when I re-opened it and tried again.

It requires Python so I grabbed the SFS from the Puppeee PetStore and rebooted.

When I tried to open the chirp app I received an error saying that the pyserial module was not loaded.

I looked at the list of modules available for manual selection for loading and pyserial was not there.

Would someone direct me to a Fluppy 013-friendly source for pyserial, please?

Thanks!

gcmartin · #1788 Post by **gcmartin** » Thu 21 Apr 2011, 18:32

maxpro4u wrote:
gcmartin wrote:Parole Media generates an error message on playback of one of its defaults. Anyone know anything about this media player and how to resolve this?

Thanks in advance
What type of file are you trying to play?
Here is a link to parole
http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/parole

Wjhat is this suppose to mean..from the site you show here?
"The GStreamer framework provides a strong plugin interface to dynamically load plugins that support certain media types, the more you have GStreamer plugins installed in your system the more you can play media formats with Parole. Parole is completely free, means that you can user it, redistribute it and/or modify it under GNU general public license, in the other hands some GStreamer plugins are not free, for example to decode some closed media formats, and possibly other plugins have licensing issues with their source code, it is up to you or usually to the distribution to ship/accept the license of these plugins, here is the list of Gstreamer plugins "

Does this mean that simple URL playback does NOT work unless we purchase something? And stuff built-in to Parole won't work either?

My post shows that I am trying to go to a website that I got from the Parole menu. I just trying to understand whether others have tried its menus and hit the same message that I hit. And if so, did they know why.

Thanks for asking, though. Did anyone else experience same or similar usage of Parole?
P.S. My opening post of this issue in this Fluppy thread is here, Parole Media generates an error message on playback of one of its defaults.

edoc · #1789 Post by **edoc** » Fri 22 Apr 2011, 15:23

CUPS is still working on the HP P1006, but it puts up an error about no Postscript support when we try to print a PDF file.

Is there a way to fix that, please?

Thanks!

rcrsn51 · #1790 Post by **rcrsn51** » Fri 22 Apr 2011, 16:06

edoc wrote:CUPS is still working on the HP P1006, but it puts up an error about no Postscript support when we try to print a PDF file.

Please give a specific example. From what application are you printing?

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