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tlchost · #1681 Post by **tlchost** » Tue 08 Mar 2011, 22:10

Can anyone give me a manufacturer, and model number for
Devices that are known to work with Fluppy 13 that require no
compiling of drivers?

I am looking for a USB plugin(prefered) or an access point
that I can connect via usb or cat 5.

Thanks

Thom

Shep · #1682 Post by **Shep** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 06:53

Sage wrote:1. Unreliability of k/b (and other?) settings to 'stick' after log-out/in, soft/hard resets & reboot/restarts. I am aware that this was solved for modem settings after extensive discussion and testing of other versions.

There is an old thread on keyboard country settings. See my post: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 442#383442

Yesterday I set the Danish keyboard for a friend. We could get every character except the euro.
Rt-Alt e should have given euro, it produced nothing. But shift-Rt-Alt e produced c with a slash across it, so at least he got the cents symbol.

Sage · #1683 Post by **Sage** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 07:13

Thanks, Shep. How many euros to the cent?! Most distros will display the euro with CTRL-ALT-4. That is supposed to be the 'standard' keypress. Amazing but Linux Mint Xfce is delinquent in this regard. Not sure whether this is an Ubuntu or Mint Xfce, alone, feature because Debian has no such problem. Too much partisanship, bad education in some quarters?! I imagine that both S Africa and Ireland are well aware of euros.

Shep · #1684 Post by **Shep** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 09:03

Sage wrote:Most distros will display the euro with CTRL-ALT-4. That is supposed to be the 'standard' keypress.

Really? I don't get anything printed in Wary.

The Danish keyboard has the euro symbol on the e key already. There is the option in Puppy's keyboard setup to set the e key to give a euro. It just didn't work.

I'll pass on the ctl -alt 4 suggestion.

jemimah · #1685 Post by **jemimah** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:27

edoc wrote:Thanks!

It has been set to Powersave - still overheats.

System Info - Hardware - Processor:

AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dial-Core QL-64 2100.09MHz
AMD Athlon(tm) X2 Dial-Core QL-64 2100.09MHz

I've only tested on Intel processors. If it needs scaling not provided by the acpi_cpufreq module, it's probably not working out of the box.

You might want to try the Frequency scaling utility pet and see if that helps.

nooby · #1686 Post by **nooby** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:32

Jemimah, your are into Asus? I am into Acer but acer use the N270 Atom maybe one of your Netbooks do too?

Do you have any clue why the Temp in the hardware info says it is 27 Celsius all the time.

Does the Mobo in Acer need another kind of program to give right temp?

Acer D255 has another CPU and taht one are up in 45 Celsius and going down to maybe 37 when the fan has worked on it.

So that CPU seems to be read by same program.

Sorry not Fluppy related I am in Snow now. But you knowing those small Netbooks I dared to ask you.

jemimah · #1687 Post by **jemimah** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:34

Shep wrote:
Sage wrote:1. Unreliability of k/b (and other?) settings to 'stick' after log-out/in, soft/hard resets & reboot/restarts. I am aware that this was solved for modem settings after extensive discussion and testing of other versions.
There is an old thread on keyboard country settings. See my post: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 442#383442

Yesterday I set the Danish keyboard for a friend. We could get every character except the euro.
Rt-Alt e should have given euro, it produced nothing. But shift-Rt-Alt e produced c with a slash across it, so at least he got the cents symbol.

You can get the legacy keymap selector by picking "more" for the main language. If you have better luck with the legacy version it would be worth mentioning your problem to Shinobar so the FirstRun program can be fixed.

jemimah · #1688 Post by **jemimah** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:35

nooby wrote:Jemimah, your are into Asus? I am into Acer but acer use the N270 Atom maybe one of your Netbooks do too?

Do you have any clue why the Temp in the hardware info says it is 27 Celsius all the time.

Does the Mobo in Acer need another kind of program to give right temp?

Acer D255 has another CPU and taht one are up in 45 Celsius and going down to maybe 37 when the fan has worked on it.

So that CPU seems to be read by same program.

Sorry not Fluppy related I am in Snow now. But you knowing those small Netbooks I dared to ask you.

If I recall, you need the acer_hdf kernel module. This is in Fluppy but you may need to request it for snow puppy if it's not there.

nooby · #1689 Post by **nooby** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 21:36

Ah much appreciated. Yes I guessed something was missing for it stayed at 27 despite being some 34 degrees from outside

Thanks indeed, I ahve been wondering about this temp thing for a long time. Feels good to know it is not me not getting it. It really need a thing that allow it to do what one expect.
I tell Pemasu about it in case him want to know such info.

edoc · #1690 Post by **edoc** » Wed 09 Mar 2011, 23:54

jemimah wrote:
You might want to try the Frequency scaling utility pet and see if that helps.

I had forgotten about that and when I searched came up empty - thanks!

I went here:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 549#424549

... then downloaded and installed cpu-scaling-ondemand-1.3-3.pet:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=29677

Then I tried some options until the AMD k8 worked.

It set up the CPU range as 1100000 to 2100000 so then I went back and changed it to 500000 - 1100000

I have several pages running, including a video, and so far it seems to be holding the temp at 66C

CLAM01 · #1691 Post by **CLAM01** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 02:31

Shep,

On the Danish keyboard R(right)-alt+e should make the € appear. Danish has dead-keys, to make umlauts (]-key) and accents (=-key) and other marks, exponents and so forth, and if you have hit a dead-key somewhere before the R-alt+e the stroke will only cancel the dead-key. You have to then hit the e again, still holding the R-alt, to make the € (or backspace which cancels dead-key strokes like any others).

a hanging dead-key stroke is the usual that causes things that should appear to not appear. If a double-tap doesn't get you a €, go back through the XKB wizard, remove and reinstall the Danish keyboard, hit the "activate new settings" button again, open a new abiword, open office or whatever, and try again. Old settings sometimes persist in old program-windows.

However, if all else is working for you, if the [ key makes å and the ' key makes ø, the R-alt+e combo should make €.

If the Danish layout is an added one, not default, if your usual keyboard is UK-English R-alt+4 should give you a €, and if your usual is US-International, R-alt+5 gives the € (I don't think the basic US layout provides any options). Setting the XKB group-shift option permits setting a key or key-combination for quick switching between layouts.

And a deluxe feature of Fluppy is an indicator aplet for the tray that shows the current keyboard. Start the aplet from the desktop pane of the control center the setup icon on the desktop starts. The aplet isn't persistent, though, so you have to restart it each time you boot your Fluppy.

dadeo · #1692 Post by **dadeo** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 14:23

Roy wrote:jemimah,

I finally got around to loading Fluppy13 onto my Mini-9 netbook (frugal) and... wow! Connected straight away to my rooted Android cell phone -- with the Broadcom wl module as the default! That's terrific!

Buttttttt.... then I turned off my cell phone and went to a wireless hotspot -- and Fluppy13 was determined to connect to my missing cell phone wifi (and nothing else). Finally deleted my cell phone's wireless profile and Fluppy connected to networks that were actually available.

I generated a before and after diagnostics, if you are interested in seeing them. Just PM me if they might be of interest to you. One other thing that I did -- told Frisbee to ignore my ethernet connection -- shouldn't/didn't cause any problems with wireless, I would think.

-Roy

Yes, I too would like to report similarly fine results with my new install of Fluppy 13 on my Dell Inspiron 910 (Dell mini-9).

Since the Mini-9 has no CD drive, it's 100% USB as the OEM 8GB SSD is non-functioning, (locked itself when my sister had unknown issues - I tried but can't hash pw - suspect it is doa) and so far have had no problems, out-of-the-box it all works:

wifi/ethernet - good
video - good
sound - good
input devices - good
Drives/SD all mount

The only "problem" would be the same amazon.com crashing Midori issue that edoc is having. I plan on shifting to Firefox right away, will keep midori as backup/test. I like it, reminds me of FF2..maybe 1.x?

Thanks jemimah (and everyone)! Nice work!

Still testing..and learning..mostly the latter..

jemimah · #1693 Post by **jemimah** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 14:42

I compiled the latest midori and the latest dev version of webkit yesterday. After patching a segfault in webkit, it seems to be working and Amazon doesn't crash. I need to continue testing, but I think we have an improvement.

edoc · #1694 Post by **edoc** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 15:44

jemimah wrote:I compiled the latest midori and the latest dev version of webkit yesterday. After patching a segfault in webkit, it seems to be working and Amazon doesn't crash. I need to continue testing, but I think we have an improvement.

Great news!

Midori is an excellent compact browser.

KJ · #1695 Post by KJ » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 17:04

Thanks for checking out the new Midori release. Hope it's a keeper with the bugs fixed. If it looks good ... would you please pack it as an SFS for us to use or would an SFS of it mess things up as it is our default Fluppy web-browser? Thanks for all your hard work on these Puppy projects. I use Fluppy and Eeepup very day ... Thank you ...KJ

jemimah · #1696 Post by **jemimah** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 17:52

I will try to make a pet if it works. It needs an upgraded glib and libsoup so I need to make sure those upgrades don't break anything.

#1697 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 10 Mar 2011, 17:53

Arora browser built on the latest QT runs stable, flash works on it also and has a some plugins.http://code.google.com/p/arora/ You might want to try that. I did compile it on puppy 5.2, I also tried it on earlier qt version, and it was unstable, so use the latest qt if your going to try it.
ttuuxxx

big_bass · #1698 Post by **big_bass** » Sat 12 Mar 2011, 06:46

Hey jemimah

I was playing a bit with the new pikona
and here are some icons for ya

Joe

edoc · #1699 Post by **edoc** » Sat 12 Mar 2011, 15:00

Is there any way to insert the currently-running version number of Fluppy into the icon somewhere?

tlchost · #1700 Post by **tlchost** » Sat 12 Mar 2011, 21:25

edoc wrote:Is there any way to insert the currently-running version number of Fluppy into the icon somewhere?

I'd like to see it in the "puppy" widget...I think it's in the clock widget, but that takes too much real estate.

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