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Jim1911

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jun 2010, 16:34    Post_subject:  

tazoc wrote:
Jim1911 wrote:
Hi tazoc
You've been busy. Downloading now. Where is this feature?
It's in the Personal or Education Menu | Wine e-Sword Installer, also there's a link in /root/.wine/drive_c/ and the new scripts and files are in /usr/local/Wine-e-sword/.
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Great, thank you! Very Happy I posted a link on the howto thread.

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jun 2010, 16:43    Post_subject:  

tazoc wrote:
jduffy22335 wrote:
Sorry to report, that the xdelta link for Mariner is the same as the base (7 meg).
You're right, thank you for catching that. Should be fixed now-TazOC


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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jun 2010, 16:59    Post_subject:  

Jim1911 wrote:
Great, thank you! Very Happy I posted a link on the howto thread.
You're welcome, Jim. I hope it works well--the d/l and install script is fairly complex and it took several modifications for Lighthouse before it would work consistently; and then I fixed a couple of bugs in my changes yesterday!

Thank you for noting it on your How To thread.
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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jun 2010, 18:11    Post_subject:  

Hi tazoc,

Lighthouse Pup 5.00 B works great on my hardware except that the automatic probe function gives me a black screen as before. Therefore, I must include nomodeset (as you suggested for 5.00 A) on my menu.lst kernel line and then use Choose to select the correct driver. Xsane worked after I installed the attached .pet. Now everything checked works fine.

The Wine eSword installer is a fine idea and I've found only one bug. Items on the list install fine and run great without a problem, and so does your font smoothing installation. A problem exists when you try to use the manual block to install additional modules that have been downloaded. An .exe files tries to install, but fails. I'll PM you my ideas on that problem. Don't want to hijack your thread. EDIT: Tried it again, and it works now. Embarassed

Consider adding the attached files which will enable you to add e-Sword to wbar or add it to the desktop. The e-Sword.desktop for /usr/share/applications will identify locations that other files should be placed.

Cheers,
Jim

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PostPosted: Sat 12 Jun 2010, 22:15    Post_subject:  

Hi Jim,
That's a good idea put e-Sword in Wbar! It just occurred to me that the e-Sword Installer places the .desktop file at /root/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs/e-Sword/e-Sword.desktop, where no one can find it! Next release I'll change it to /usr/share/applications/wine, and have the Installer put it in the Wbar available plugins. There is an executable (that Wbar can use) /usr/local/bin/e-sword, (just e-sword works, too) and that is in the above .desktop file. There is also a copy at /root/Desktop/e-Sword.desktop, and an icon /usr/share/icons/e-sword.png.

So the files you attached work, or one could make a Wbar plugin with:
Wbar | Wbar-setup | New Icons
name: e-sword
icon: /usr/share/icons/e-sword.png
executable: e-sword
text for icon: e-Sword
click Create | Done | Choose Icons | Select e-sword on left pane | '+' to add icon | Apply

I don't have an HP scanner to test with, but the pet you attached must work in Lighthouse so I will also include it in the next release.
Thank you,
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jun 2010, 09:04    Post_subject:  

Béèm wrote:
tazoc wrote:
I noticed that the drive icon sizes register 0 in the latest Quirky when starting with be-latin1, so apparently that's not unique to Lighthouse.
I am sorry. I forgot to mention this. It is the same for Lucid. I raised this many times but neither Barry nor Playdayz gave a solution. But thanks to your explication and circumvention, the size is mentioned now.
I applied your 'trick' in quirky and lucid as well as in Lighthouse 500. Indeed it seemed to work and size was displayed after reboots or restarts X's
But as soon as for some reason the desktop drive icons have to be redrawn, it's back to 0GB size.
So this may be an interesting piece of information to retain.
tazoc wrote:
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jun 2010, 09:40    Post_subject:
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Hi Béèm ,

I have taken the liberty of using your excellent avatar as a desktop short cut "help" icon in lupu 5.0.0.

If that is unacceptable; please PM or respond and I will change it.

My regards
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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jun 2010, 19:02    Post_subject:
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Sir Jasper wrote:
Hi Béèm ,

I have taken the liberty of using your excellent avatar as a desktop short cut "help" icon in lupu 5.0.0.

If that is unacceptable; please PM or respond and I will change it.

My regards
This came from a picture I found on internet, so there is no problem to use it.
Glad you like it. And indeed a good symbol for help.
But I wasn't able to find out if the barrel was empty or not. Wink

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PostPosted: Sun 13 Jun 2010, 21:18    Post_subject:
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Hi Béèm ,

Thank you for your helpful reply. I've never before thought about who fills the brandy barrels, but I expect they'll be pretty efficient.



As you can see from the picture I like wine as well.

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 04:43    Post_subject: 5B feedback  

Hi TazOC,
I rarely burn cds for new versions - I download the xdelta3, create the new iso, then check the md5sum then open the iso and copy the relevant system files to a new directory for that version, add a new entry in Grub and reboot. I usually create a new save file for each new release, but for this new 5B I tried an experiment and copied my save file from 5A to the new 5B directory then booted into 5B for the first time.

The logon process correctly identified the upgrade and also gave me a message about the out of date mariner sfs. Then after going through the update process for all of the files that needed to be changed, it correctly displayed my desktop and preserved my settings from the previous version. All I needed to do was change the Bootmanager to pick up the correct .sfs files for the new version (mariner, xfce,etc.), reboot and voila - new verson 5B ready to go. I'm impressed.

I see that you have been continually improving the logon script in intelligent ways. I have no exact timings but I think the logon and shutdown are quicker too. I like the little thermometer for core temp - although Gkrellmon also displays the same info.

One small glitch - I regularly increase my savefile size. It is now at 1536 Megs but the personal storage indicator in the system tray shows a red bar and only reports 504 megs with free space of 76 Megs. This also happened on 5A. In the Fun section sol (solitaire does not work).

Everything else working well so far - will continue to test.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 13:06    Post_subject:  

Hi Béèm,
Looks like Barry has a fix for the drive icon sizes. I wll try to incorporate it in the next release. Ecube reported that simply changing the first line of /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d to #!/bin/bash works, though I haven't tested this myself.

Hi Barburo,
Thank you for your feedback and kind words. I will fix Solitaire, looks like it needs libXaw95.so.7, Pet is attached.

I'm thinking about the incorrect pupsave sizes reported by the freespace trayapp. Might be helpful to look at the properties of /initrd/pup_rw in ROX-Filer. If it is off also, then there must be file system errors in your pupsave. If it is on an NTFS/Fat partition, might need to do a chkdsk and defrag in Windows. Then boot with pfix=ram or another Puppy/Puplet so that your LHP5B pupsave is not in use. Browse to the folder containing the pupsave in ROX, hit the ` (key left of the 1 key) to open a terminal in that folder. In the terminal type
Code:
e2fsck -vy spupsave.3fs
(substituting the name of your pupsave), and repeat until it scans clean. Do a properties of the pupsave to verify the correct size. If you have more than one pupsave there, LHP might have used a smaller one, though it should have prompted you at boot to choose.
Hope that helps,
TazOC
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 14:16    Post_subject:  

Thanks TazOC,
Thanks for the sol lib.
I have just successfully set up 5B on my old 1.3 Ghz celeron Desktop with an old nVidia card by choosing nv as the driver in Xorgwizard. Proble gave black screen.
(I had left off trying 5a on this machine previously due to black screen).

I will try your suggestions for pup save later on my notebook and let you know the results.
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 15:04    Post_subject:  

Barburo,
Sounds good; I thought about it some more and updated my last post to suggest both a chkdsk and defrag in Windows. From pfix=ram, you could also back up your pupsave, create a new one of desired size at shutdown, reboot with pfix=ram, open the old and new pupsaves in ROX and copy over cp -af --remove-destination <source> <destination> the old contents into the new pupsave. If you open the old pupsave with right-click | Mount-data0 and the new one right-click | Mount-data1, the command would be
Code:
cp -af --remove-destination /mnt/data0/* /mnt/data1/
I'm curious whether yours is a .3fs or .2fs. A .3fs (ext3) should be more reliable but won't work on an encrypted pupsave, which I'm under the impression must be .2fs (ext2).

The open source nv driver is very limited as nVidia won't share the needed specs with Linux developers. Slackware doesn't offer the nouveau driver either. I am working on adapting the proprietary nVidia driver to LHP 5 but not sure if I can make it work. My old nVidia GF3 died (no video after 1-2 min.) so I've ordered a newer GF 6200. If it works on my box I hope to get the 195 driver working by compiling it in LHP5.

For the benefit those with other display chips I would like to offer the Intel proprietary but as yet it doesn't support the xserver 1.77 in LHP, only up to 1.64. And maybe an ATI Catalyst in the near future.
-TazOC

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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:12    Post_subject: Stellarium and SuperTuxKart Add-ons  

These add-ons won't work as designed for those of us without 3D acceleration and Stellarium recently released 10.5 but I've had these gathering dust and at least Stellarium works slowly for me, but with stunning beauty even w/o accelerated graphics, so maybe you'll like it...

Stellarium-0.10.4.sfs 42M Stellarium is a free open source planetarium for your computer. It shows a realistic sky in 3D, just like what you see with the naked eye, binoculars or a telescope. Screenshots Tip: move your mouse pointer down against the lower left-hand edges of the screen to get 2 toolbars, one on the bottom and one on the lower end of the left edge.

I don't know if this is unique to my setup, but Stellarium's icons and labels wouldn't show until I renamed the DRI module in Mariner which for my ATI RS780 is r600_dri.so at /usr/X11R7/modules/dri/ and restarted X. This reverts the radeon driver to software rendering. Then I rename it back when I'm done with Stellarium. This workaround isn't necessary unless Mariner SFS is loaded.

Supertuxkart-0.6.1a1-sfs4.sfs 101M (3D accelerated display drivers w/Mariner SFS required) SuperTuxKart is a 3D kart racing game, with many tracks, characters and items for you to try. It even has a Lighthouse track!
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PostPosted: Mon 14 Jun 2010, 18:31    Post_subject:  

tazoc wrote:
Hi Béèm,
Looks like Barry has a fix for the drive icon sizes. I wll try to incorporate it in the next release. Ecube reported that simply changing the first line of /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d to #!/bin/bash works, though I haven't tested this myself.

TazOC

Yes I know. I PM'ed Barry about the problem and he found a solution.
I didn't quite understand.
Do I have to put
Code:
SIZE="`LANG=$OLDLANG dc $SIZE 1024 \/ p`" #100613
SIZE="`LANG=$OLDLANG printf "%.1f" $SIZE`MB" #100613
in the beginning of the /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d scipt just above the export LANG=C line? If so I'll try it out.

As for the so called typo, Technosaurus said it isn't one. As ash is the busybox alternative for bash and is typically much faster

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