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tasmod · Posted: Tue 01 Jun 2010, 07:39 Post subject:

Hmm, first time I have really struggled to get an iso working. Sad

Video problems with i810.

I had all the symptoms as described at each point. Finally got it working and it crashed out at the save routine. !!

Option of save created a new line in a cli showing the bash prompt and wouldn't do anything else.

Needless to say it didn't create the save file.

I'll continue on with my favourite LHP4 version for now. Very Happy

dwillis · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 9

This looks like a truly great pup. But i have tried with both a fixed and multi-session CD burn and neither releases the CD so it can be unmounted to play movies. Tried a search for the problem, but no luck. Must be something simple i'm doing wrong. Ideas?

I'm looking forward to switching to this version. It's worth a donation, for sure. Thanks.

Béèm · Posted: Wed 02 Jun 2010, 00:09 Post subject: No Belgian keyboard

Me too, I had the kernel panic issue, but when using pfix=nocopy I could load and use Lighthouse 5.00
But there is a showstopper for me
Altho I have selected the Belgian keyboard, and altho this is correctly in xorg.conf, the keyboard stays in qwerty.

Don't see how I can change thhis.

Béèm · Last edited by Béèm on Wed 02 Jun 2010, 05:26; edited 1 time in total

At first start when I have to configure X and I take the 'default' xorgwizard, I get a black screen. I have to power off and when doing so I hear two barks before the laptop powers off.

My video controller is a ATI mobility Radeon 7500

On the next trial I used the ATI entry and selected the radeon driver.
This time I get to the desktop.
Not sure if I could/should use the radeonhd one.

Once in the desktop I haven't tried to go to the X prompt, type xorgwizard and see if I have the same issue.

Béèm · Posted: Wed 02 Jun 2010, 00:15 Post subject: desktop drive icons show 0GB space

desktop drive icons show 0GB space
The desktop drive icons show correctly the file system, but don't give the size of the partition. They all show 0GB.

At bit annoying.

Jim1911 · Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 2460 Location: Texas, USA

Xsane which has never worked before with Lighthouse is now working with my HP Photosmart C5280 all-in-one. All I needed to do was turn the printer on, install the correct driver with CUPS, and then install the hplip-3.9.12-scan.pet from here.

tazoc · Posted: Thu 03 Jun 2010, 19:19 Post subject:

CLAM01 · Joined: 22 May 2010 Posts: 79

Hi TazOC, I'm not using 5 yet, but I use non-standard keyboards, international us (with deadkeys) and a couple of nationality specific. I'm able to set them up, starting from us and setting in X, but they don't stay through shutdown. Each reboot goes back to vanilla us. I work around by using the wbar looknfeel >mouse keyboard >advanced Xorg at the start of each session. I open the layouts and variants dialogs, see my settings there and so hit the cancel to leave them unchanged, then click the apply button to reset them for the session. The settings then work everywhere, including in open office, but go away at shutdown. I have found that the setting puts a script in /tmp. It apparently doesn't put the script in a directory that is saved at shutdown, and the X start scripts don't reset the one in /tmp. I don't know which would be the correct cure, or if a link from somewhere to somewhere is needed. Meanwhile the workaround makes non-us and international keyboards work in Lighthouse.
P.S. The background lighthouse labeled "a lighthouse in Oregon" is the Yaquina Head lighthouse.

tazoc · Posted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 15:24 Post subject:

Hi CLAM01,
Thank you for the feedback. The Advanced Xorg keyboard button only updates /etc/X11/xorg.conf, whereas the first option, Choose keyboard layout updates keymap, codepage and fontmap in /etc. I tried several settings in Advanced Xorg and could not find a new script in /tmp.

I'm wondering if maybe you are using one of the proprietary drivers for Xorg (ATI Catalyst or nVidia) as I think they use the profile-specific /etc/X11/xorg.conf<ChipVendor><MonitorVendor> and it looks like the Advanced Xorg applet only updates the standard /etc/X11/xorg.conf. But if that was the case, I would think that restarting X would lose your custom settings, so maybe I'm on the wrong track.

In any case I will see if it's possible to update /etc/keymap from /etc/X11/xorg.conf so at least that part would be retained after reboot. However if you can verify that your settings are retained when restarting X and attach the script you found in /tmp that might help me figure this out. Otherwise I will give this some more thought and hopefully find a solution. Also please give me the specific keyboard model, layout and variant you've selected prior to rebooting so I can repeat the test after making changes to the scripts.

@All, I've updated the script /etc/rc.d/rc.country that runs at first boot and will test to see if it helps the keymap-related bugs discussed in my last post.
-TazOC

Béèm · Posted: Fri 04 Jun 2010, 16:22 Post subject:

Béèm · Posted: Sat 05 Jun 2010, 04:23 Post subject: missing keyboard keys in wine

Another showstopper.
Some important keys are missing in wine altho they are there in puppy.
The most important ones are é è ç à
As my e-mail and news clients are wine programs, and as I write often in French, this is a real showstopper.

Never had this issue in other puppies.

How can this be corrected?

Béèm · Posted: Sat 05 Jun 2010, 04:25 Post subject: cpu frequency not displayed

When going with the mouse over the CPU icon in the system tray, I get the CPU load, Ram, Swap and ACPI Temp, but the CPU Freq stays at O,OOOGHz.

Béèm

My cpu, special when running video's from youtube, is running hot. At times at 80°C
There is a thread about this in BUGS and adjusting the frequency with the cpu frequency scaling tool temperature can be limited. For Lucid and Quirky this tool is in Utility.
I have looked through the quite extensive menu of Lighthouse, but didn't find this tool.
Isn't it there? Does it exist?

tazoc · Posted: Sat 05 Jun 2010, 12:09 Post subject:

Hi Béèm,
The cpu frequency scaling tool is in the Utility Menu. In IceWM you have to scroll up with your mouse pointer as it may not show all the entries (move the cursor all the way up.) If it's not there, choose Menu | Window Manager | Refresh Menus. Still isn't there? Open /applications in ROX and click on cpu_freq.desktop.

To fix the drive icon size info, choose Menu | Desktop Settings | Desktop Drive Icons manager and tick 'Re-align existing icons'. Then restart X.

If that doesn't help, delete the files keymap, codepage and fontmap, all in /etc. Delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Then in /etc/profile change LANG=be to LANG=en_US. Then reboot and press Enter when prompted for country/region/language. Xorgwizard will run again. Back at the desktop, repeat the step in the previous paragraph to re-draw the icons and restart X. Then reset your keyboard and locale to 'be' with Menu | Setup | Mouse/Keyb wizard | Choose Keyboard Layout and FR_be with Menu | Desktop | Chooselocale.

Sometimes the CPU graph in IceWM doesn't show the CPU Freq so use Menu | Desktop Settings | Conky and it will show the CPU Freq in the middle of the second line. I will continue working on the next release which hopefully will avoid all these workarounds for be_latin1.
-TazOC

CLAM01 · Joined: 22 May 2010 Posts: 79

Hi tazOC,
My graphics chipset is the Intel G45M. I setup X using the Xorg-auto setup. My alternative Xkb setups also don't survive restarts of X. The keyboards I add most often are Danish and French, sometimes others, depending what characters I will need and how often. I add and remove since puppy doesn't have a chooser. When I activate alternate Xkb two files are added to tmp, one, XkbVariantDialog, which is the script, the other XkbVariantList. I have put screenshot jpgs of tmp before and after and of the added files open in geany in a file I will try to upload.
In caveat, I tend to mess my system up doing whatever I think might work. My setup is a mix now: To get desktop icons I copied a 4.3 pup-save file to my lighthouse partition and let lighthouse integrate with it. My background picture comes up during loading then goes away when the IceWM sets the desktop, leaving a dark blue background now, but everything seems to work, and I can drop files on icons to start the programs, which is what I wanted.
Apart from having to reset Xkb I have to start and then reboot to start cpu cooling. Apci doesn't start the cooling fans, or change their speeds. I let the cpu warm to about 40C then reboot, the bios sets the cooling fan on low, where it keeps cpu temp 35-38C. if I reboot at 50C the fan sets higher and the cpu runs 25-29C.
With these two fiddles I'm able to go to work.