Lighthouse Pup 5.00 G 185M

[CLAM01]

8-bit,
120gb should be plenty, since the limitation is enough room in the end for two almost 700mb Mariner iso's and an about 100mb xdelta file. I always isolate the process into its own new directory, which I name for the upgrade. When done I delete all else and have only the new iso and its md5 in the directory, where I usually add my custom modifications of the version. I have to add a couple of programs to make my system usable for work, so I always make a custom version with the additions. When I add the proverbial one tweak over the line playing and wreck everything I just shovel out the broken bits, reload and have everything ready for work again.

Menu entries disappearing, even though they aren't supposed to seems to be one of those things computer systems seem to like to do, or maybe it's the daemons in them that like to, to keep us on our toes. Us lazy it makes have to think up quick-n-dirty work-around solutions. The more intelligent, curious and careful it recruits to computer programming. They who have to sort out and find the why and fix the glitch right the daemons thus separate from us who bailing-wire icons on our desktops, and hook in. The next you may know, if you have to fix the menu things, you may find yourself over your eyebrows in code and surrounded by daemons looking to you to massage them. Once they have you there will, of course, always be another with another ache or pain, demanding more massage...
The phantom tmp file I have run into, or failed to run into, too. To work around I make my custom systems and then make a couple of extra directories in /mnt/home where I park back-up copies of what I make or download that is important, that, in a worst case I want to not lose in a wreck of a save-file.
But the added programs whose menu entries disappear, not being gone, themselves, would not be in a removed stuff file, anyway, and I don't think menu upgrading saves old menu-files. You could probably do so before upgrading, though, making a bak copy or something.
My current full-time full-service working OS is a customized Mariner 443 that is doing all and doing all well, being stable and reliable. 500 I am still playing with, but coming up to upgrading to for work. My 443 custom is something over 900mb and lives in my disk drive on a 1.44gb Sony compact video-camera dvd rw, with a clone on a usb stick for portability.

[8-bit]

Clamo1.
My mainstay seems to be a highly customized version of Puppy 431 scsi beta2 that Barry put out for testing and then pulled because of scsi disk booting problems.
I had updated the browser to the latest Seamonkey, added a patch for clean umount of the pupsave.2fs file, added a fix for using the man command from a command line, installled the Floppy Formatter program (I wrote the GUI for it) so I could format USB floppies, added pupsave-backup that I found on the forum, and most likely other fixes that I added and have forgotten.
I mainly keep it around for my SCSI hardware though.
I would like to modify lupu-510 (Puppy 510) to support my SCSI devices, but I am no experienced programmer by any means and although the source is included in devx, I still do not know just what I need for the 2.6.33.2 kernel to make it all work.
And yes, I have tried loading the devx and kernel source with bootmanager.
I have lots of drive space and 3 gigs of ram to play with.
I have already tried navigating to the source directory for the driver and trying he make file. But a file was missing there and I am sure there are others I need for SCSI to be successful.
I even went so far as to try to compile the kernel with SCSI support, but my resulting vmlinuz file was 4 megs and the original was 12 megs.
The interesting thing is that Puppy did boot with it. It kicked out an error of not being able to find lupu-510.sfs and the file was where it is supposed to be.
I restored the original kernel and it booted fine with it.

So here I sit all broken hearted. Tried to sh*t and only far*ed.

[Sage]

The last Puppy version that I have used without problems, after some fixes, is Puppy 431 frugal Beta 2.

None of the principal developers want to know! As you see from my recent comments, I've encountered many systems that refuse to start properly or at all since that time. My enquiries remain ignored. It is very inconvenient for them. The only option for me has been to switch to Mint, Austrumi and a handful of others which perform flawlessly on all systems. Mint also recognises some of my webcams that others prefer to avoid.
As I've said many times, my strength is HW & my weakness is SW which limits my ability to cope with the breath-taking pace of recent 'progress'. One step forward...?!

[Billtoo]

I just discovered Lighthouse Pup a few days ago and it's working very well for me.
I'm using xfce and I have installed many of the sfs modules.
I wish I'd found lhp sooner, it's one of the best imho.
Thanks.

[tazoc]

Thank you, Billtoo.

Yesterday I found that some files, notably /bin/mount-FULL and /usr/share/alsa may not get updated when upgrading from LHP 5.00 C to D, build 490->495. This can cause audio problems and a 'failed' status during boot-up at "Making the filesystem usable...". Some dialogs may show 'puppyversion' as 490, instead of 495. I have corrected this for the next release, and attached a PET below with these and a few other updates for 5D:

• - /bin/mount-FULL, /etc/rc.d/rc.update, rc.sysinit
  - /etc/puppyversion, /usr/local/bin/Xdelta3GUI
  - .xdelta3 mimetype and default rox action
  - sqlite-3.6.23.1, /usr/share/alsa
  - PPM excludes and Lighthouse Help Page

-TazOC

[CLAM01]

TazOC!
I tried your <window manager | refresh menu> suggestion and it worked!! It was even easier than my lazy way!!! Now I can be lazier still and feel competent, too!!!! Thank you!

I now have only xzgv without a menu entry, which is no surprise, since I install it by downloading a tgz and extracting the binary to drop into bin. I only launch xzgv from the desktop anyway, dropping a file on it when I need to use the contents or reference something in it. There is nothing better for burrowing around in large files of graphic content... I mean of tiffs and jpegs...

Also, per your earlier suggestion, I downloaded and installed your Graphics 3in1c sfs, which I hadn't looked to notice was there before. It works everywhere, and, of course, works great. I at the same time downloaded an update vlc sfs (1.0.6), but haven't yet found how to launch it. The wbar and menu entries still launch 1.0.0, according to the <help | about> info.

[tazoc]

downloaded an update vlc sfs (1.0.6), but haven't yet found how to launch it. The wbar and menu entries still launch 1.0.0, according to the <help | about> info.

LHP 5.00 C had some old leftover vlc binaries in /usr/bin. In ROX-Filer right-click | Mount-data0 to mount the Vlc-1.0.6-i486b.sfs and copy the vlc files over from /mnt/data0/usr/bin/*vlc* to /usr/bin/.

If you're in LHP 5D and have previously installed vlc 1.0.0.pet, vlc 1.0.0 is still in your pupsave layer, which takes precedence over any files (with the same name and path) in an SFS layer below. Type which vlc in a terminal to see where the binary being executed is. The Vlc-1.0.6-i486b.sfs uses /usr/bin/vlc. If vlc 1.0.0 is at the same location, then it is 'hiding' the newer version. I would uninstall vlc 1.0.0 with the same method that you installed it.

If you've done that and vlc in a terminal reports an error like 'command not found' then force a purge of whiteout (.wh.*) files from the pupsave layer, e.g., /initrd/pup_rw/usr/bin/.wh.vlc by adding or removing an SFS with the BootManager and rebooting. When a file is deleted from a read-only layer below the top layer, a whiteout .wh.<filename> is created which effectively hides it from normal access. These whiteouts are only visible when navigating within the pupsave (top layer) at /initrd/pup_rw/. (IIRC when the pupsave is on a flash drive, the pupsave layer is at /initrd/pup_ro1)
-TazOC

[Barburo]

CompizFusion-0.7.9-1g.sfs works fine with LXDE Xfce and KDE4.
I've been using Xfce for a while and it seems that I must double click any icon on the desktop to activate. I can set to single click within folders - even within the Desktop folder, but not from the desktop. Any way to set this to single click (or is it a characteristic of Xfce)?
B.

[tazoc]

CompizFusion-0.7.9-1g.sfs works fine with LXDE Xfce and KDE4.
I've been using Xfce for a while and it seems that I must double click any icon on the desktop to activate. I can set to single click within folders - even within the Desktop folder, but not from the desktop. Any way to set this to single click (or is it a characteristic of Xfce)?
B.

Hi Barburo,
Thank you for testing the updated C-F add-on. Tazmod asked about the Xfce desktop a while back and here was my reply:

My search for a workaround that allows single-clicking the desktop icons was not very fruitful. You can either hide all the icons except the Trash and make do with Wbar, or possibly convert the desktop to Nautilus instead of Xfce, but I think I would miss the Xfce context menu and other features that Nautilus doesn't have; not to mention the dependencies that might be needed.

What I usually do is leisurely right-click | Open when I don't want to rapidly double click. I read somewhere that the gtk in Xfce requires a double-click, but I don't know why you can single-click in Thunar but not on the Xfce desktop.

-TazOC

[don570]

I compiled mtPaint 3.34.55 on Lighthouse 4.4.3
using configuration

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./configure --bindir=/usr/bin release GIF gif jpeg tiff gtk2 staticft intl

I made a pet package that should run on most Puppies.
New feature -opens SVG format.

DOWNLOAD HERE

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[its-me-again]

Hi all i am testing lighthouse pup 5.00 d update. there is no re-size puppy save file in the menu. its been removed. i looked 3-4 times over the menu with a fine tooth comb. now i cant use pup save file. its to small.

my save file is teh ext3 version one with light encryption. i don't think that should make a difference.

also my standard keyboard layout is slightly messed up. both the laptop and teh External kboards are the same. teh arrow keys the group containing insert home etc adn carious others this is most annoying. i have set teh keyboard to us so it should be normal. this seems to be a fault or bug.

also i installed some sfs files only one has come up on desktop. arg y the other ones not there i never know.

are there any fixes or workarounds for these. please.

[Jim1911]

Hi all i am testing lighthouse pup 5.00 d update. there is no re-size puppy save file in the menu. its been removed. i looked 3-4 times over the menu with a fine tooth comb. now i cant use pup save file. its to small.

my save file is teh ext3 version one with light encryption. i don't think that should make a difference.

also my standard keyboard layout is slightly messed up. both the laptop and teh External kboards are the same. teh arrow keys the group containing insert home etc adn carious others this is most annoying. i have set teh keyboard to us so it should be normal. this seems to be a fault or bug.

also i installed some sfs files only one has come up on desktop. arg y the other ones not there i never know.

are there any fixes or workarounds for these. please.

To resize personal save file in KDE4 with Kickoff Menu style, just type resize in search bar and it will show the resize program. With lxde or jwm you will find it in the utility section of the menu. As for the other problems you mention, they suggest a bad download or corrupt installation. Ext3 is the best choice as it is the safest version for a save file.

[tazoc]

Hi all i am testing lighthouse pup 5.00 d update. there is no re-size puppy save file in the menu. its been removed. i looked 3-4 times over the menu with a fine tooth comb. now i cant use pup save file. its to small.

Hi, please indicate which Window Manager/Desktop you are using. In IceWM/JWM use the Refresh Menus tool (bottom of main menu, (IceWM Menu | Window Manager | Refresh Menus.) Or type resizepfile.sh in a terminal.

also my standard keyboard layout is slightly messed up. both the laptop and teh External kboards are the same. teh arrow keys the group containing insert home etc adn carious others this is most annoying. i have set teh keyboard to us so it should be normal. this seems to be a fault or bug.

Usually that is because the Xvesa video driver was selected. Xvesa is a very limited fallback to use if all others fail. Exit X to CL and type xorgwizard and try Option 3 xorgwizard, force vesa.

also i installed some sfs files only one has come up on desktop. arg y the other ones not there i never know.

Most SFS files do not have desktop icons. Use Refresh Menus (see above) after rebooting and their menu entries should appear. In IceWM, JWM point at highest item in long menus to scroll up and lowest item to scroll down. Menu items can also be found by opening File System | /Applications and left-click on the desired .desktop file.
-TazOC

[tazoc]

I compiled mtPaint 3.34.55 on Lighthouse 4.4.3

I made a pet package that should run on most Puppies.
New feature -opens SVG format.

Thank you don570, I will try to include it in the next release.
-TazOC

[nitehawk]

Awwwww,......
I just got my copy of Lighthouse Pup 5.00 (by "snail-mail"). I can use it just fine as a live CD...but can't seem to get it to work when I do a full install. I starts to boot just fine, then after a second or two, just goes to black screen,...then just goes down and re-boots,....and re-boots,...and re-boots,....
Yeah,...maybe I got ahold of a bad CD. (yuck!) I Like the live CD, anyhow. Gosh,...wish I could install it on HD, though (maybe I'll try again on getting a good CD).
EDIT: hold on,....gonna try it on one of my other older PIIIs....(maybe it was the computer I tried to put it on,....here goes). LIke I said,...I REALLY like what I saw on the live CD. This, and john biles's TEENpup are just sooooooo cool.

[its-me-again]

[To resize personal save file in KDE4 with Kickoff Menu style, just type resize in search bar and it will show the resize program. With lxde or jwm you will find it in the utility section of the menu. As for the other problems you mention, they suggest a bad download or corrupt installation. Ext3 is the best choice as it is the safest version for a save file.

interesting that my kboard is now working properly.

Also after a long look I happened to randomly find that teh menu had more items than it was showing in teh screen. there was no indication like with arows to say there is more.. now i know its great.

now why lighthouse would fill up a 512 save file in 1 hr of setting up is beyond me. as i was trying to use sfs files. i only installed 2 .pets as no sfs for them .

with the sfs files i think they probably not downloaded properly or have become corrupted as you have said.

[aracnachid]

KDE 4 is awesome..... I can only imagine how hard it was to get this desktop working as well as it does, It certainly is some fine work.... I did notice a small bug I don't know if it has been reported but when I set the desktop settings to "seperate activity for each desktop" and change the wallpapers of the seperate desktop activities and reboot KDE it only loads the one wallpaper on one of the desktop activities and leaves the others a default blue untill I open the desktop activity settings for the blank desktop and close it again.... Funny huh? Oh well no biggie!

Keep up the excellent work!

[its-me-again]

I have no idea when it comes to things Compiz

i cant find any information on how to setup compiz-fusion in lighthouse puppy, or any puppy. if you could point me to a good tutorial or something. i have found with lighthouse is it has no faq or many tutorials that i can find..

my computer specs
Acer Aspire 5520
AMD Turion 64 X2 Mobile Technology. TL-60 2.00GHz
Hard Drive 320GB (replaced 160GB hard drive last year)
Memory 4GB installed (will show up as 3GB in Windows, linux, or mac 32bit versions)
Nvidia GeForce 7000M graphics card

i installed the latest
lighthouse 5.00 mariner D os (i boot cd, & use a 4gig ext3 save file on ext3 partition)
5-Mariner-5D_495.sfs
CompizFusion-0.7.9-1g.sfs

i also installed the NVIDIA-173.14.25-k2.6.33.2.pet it works fine.
i run with the default desktop manager / window manager whatever the default is. . .

all i find is menu.system>system status and config>compiz fusion icon. that brings up a icon on panel with settings. i set what i like but alt+tab still works normal window pop-up.

i need to know what to do to get things running.

[don570]

I made a pet package of Mhwaveedit 1.4.20

using Lighthouse 4.43.

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./configure  --without-oss --with-default-mixerapp=alsamixer --without-portaudio --without-sdl --without-alsalib --without-oss --without-jack --without-check-casts

I've been using the past couple of days and it seems fine.

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-7af9907f.html


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[tazoc]

I have no idea when it comes to things Compiz

i cant find any information on how to setup compiz-fusion in lighthouse puppy

See http://www.lhpup.org/c-f.htm, which is likely the same page C-F SFS was downloaded from. It sounds like you're in JWM or possibly IceWM, where C-F won't work. Try LXDE, KDE or Xfce from the Menu | Change Window Manager or Logout Panel.

now why lighthouse would fill up a 512 save file in 1 hr of setting up is beyond me. as i was trying to use sfs files. i only installed 2 .pets as no sfs for them

Running with the extra add-ons can easily fill up a pupsave, especially with KDE4, proprietary display drivers and multiple web browsers. Click on the freespace/freememapplet icon in the system tray and choose Map of Storage Used to see what files are taking up the most space. Logging out and right back in will cleanup some temporary files. This is done by the 'pup-dip' script in /etc/rc.d/ and its activity is logged in /tmp/root/pup-dip.log. I routinely save or copy and symlink large files/directories out to a subdirectory of /mnt/home or another partitition to keep the pupsave fairly small, and so that the files are accessible from other installs.
Hope that helps,
TazOC